Birds Over Eating

[billy_g]

hi all

just had a call from a mate of mine, his pals birds what to eat eat eat all day long, he say,s the more they get the more

the want which as we all know is not right,any fancier got any idea of how to help him

[aye ready]

hi all

just had a call from a mate of mine, his pals birds what to eat eat eat all day long, he say,s the more they get the more

the want which as we all know is not right,any fancier got any idea of how to help him

 

put in the hopper what he thinks they should get then walk away

[billy_g]

put in the hopper what he thinks they should get then walk away

 

thats what i said martin great minds think alike

[aye ready]

thats what i said martin great minds think alike

if i was to keep putting food into my stock hens billy they would do the same but the rest of my birds are happy with what i put down

[JohnQuinn]

Don't take this the wrong way please, but does the guy with the doos know how much to give them?

If his doos aren't fat the likelyhood is he hasn't been giving them enough to get by with so they are always hungry. Just a guess.

 

If they are fat, i agree with the first reply, give them just enough and walk away.

 

 

[greenlands]

Barley mate,then they'll walk away.

[JohnQuinn]

Barley mate,then they'll walk away.

 

 

spot on!

[billy_g]

Don't take this the wrong way please, but does the guy with the doos know how much to give them?

If his doos aren't fat the likelyhood is he hasn't been giving them enough to get by with so they are always hungry. Just a guess.

 

If they are fat, i agree with the first reply, give them just enough and walk away.

its ok mate but he has birds for over 40 years and never had anything like it

[JohnQuinn]

its ok mate but he has birds for over 40 years and never had anything like it

 

 

Cheers, i was thinking maybe a novice.

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Are they drinking more as a result of the over eating?

[billy_g]

no they are drinking as normal lewis,i think he should get them tested

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

no they are drinking as normal lewis,i think he should get them tested

Probably the best idea.Could be some kinna worm?

[dal2]

Wots the droppings like?

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Wots the droppings like?

 

and their body?

[Guest IB]

I'd that experience a few years back around this time of year when I'd changed from a racing mix to a moulting mix, and feeding the same sort of ration. Birds never seemed satisfied, and the advice on the forum at the time was rather than go straight from one to the other, I should have fed half-and-half for a while. I tried that and it did seem to do the trick.

[billy_g]

will let him know your thoughts on this subject thanks to you all,if they were mine it would be a bin job i think

[dal2]

I'd that experience a few years back around this time of year when I'd changed from a racing mix to a moulting mix, and feeding the same sort of ration. Birds never seemed satisfied, and the advice on the forum at the time was rather than go straight from one to the other, I should have fed half-and-half for a while. I tried that and it did seem to do the trick.

 

Barley always does that I think. Did I read that barley has certain laxcitive properties for pigeons?

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Tell him to give the doos as much as they like until they have grown their last flight full up, then he can feed them Barley or resting mix until pairing up.

[greenlands]

Barley always does that I think. Did I read that barley has certain laxcitive properties for pigeons?

Hi Steven,mines on 50% barley,25% beans,25% high protein economy and the droppings can be brushed up in the mornings.Work barley into them slowly and the droppings won't alter,but like any other sudden change be it feed, weather,or a stranger going in the loft the droppings will change.

[David_vet]

A very good set of replies and suggestions.

I would be interested to know whether it is all his birds or just stock, old racers or this years youngsters?

How many birds? How much are they being given to eat daily? What are they being given? How much water are they drinking?

When were they last treated for worms and with what?

Any other signs and how far through the moult?

What management system is he using?

 

Droppings tests are always useful. If the droppings look normal then I would just check for coccidia and worms. It really does not fit with E.coli or salmonella. Might have to ask specifically to have droppings examined for tapeworms.

 

Otherwise, I would have suggested just trying altering the feed as suggested by others previously.

 

david

[billt]

Thanks again to Vet. David for his input, I must say mine are feeding well at the moment but when you think they have or are growing a complete new coat it is hardly surprising

[Guest spin cycle]

i'm with the guys who suggest barley.IMO malting grade barley is the most important food in a racing loft. as a long shot...have the birds in question enough/adequate grit? could they be consuming more to try and compensate for the food they're not digesting? (though this should show in droppings)....or are the birds 'looking' for something thats not in their diet and are just eating everything in an attempt to find it? have the birds been flying out?

[dal2]

Hi Steven,mines on 50% barley,25% beans,25% high protein economy and the droppings can be brushed up in the mornings.Work barley into them slowly and the droppings won't alter,but like any other sudden change be it feed, weather,or a stranger going in the loft the droppings will change.

 

Ye Lindsay the change of diet quickly can cause the bother but i am not a huge fan of the barley. I have noticed that if there is anything else tae eat then they will eat it before the barley! Then yer feedin must be perfect for you to give them all the protein and such that you wish to give them. The high protein is the way to go but must be given carefully in my opinion.

I am hoping that i am sweeping my droppins up come june/july but think that the moult takes a lot oot of the birds at the mo and especially anybody bringin on latebreds cos they are still growin and will struggle on a moulting/winter mix

Cheers Steven

[billy_g]

all birds were as per normal for this time of year in the moult and out 2/3times per week ,he has had birds for about 40/years

it beats him whats going on

[ovy1255]

IF HE IS THAT WORRIED ITS TIME FOR A SAMPLE TO BE TAKEN AND SENT OFF.

or put a couple of the ofenders in a clean basket syringe 0.2ml of moxidecon down their necks and monitor droppings over 24 hrs.

if it is worms they will be visable