im not implying anything alan , im just stating what is on the potteries website ,
it could be you who is talking crap, as you were not there, and the guys on the website were either in phone contact or there, in the case of the convoyer , if your sure your right i suggest you go onto the potteries website and call them liars or keep your gob closed ,
i had 2 birds in the race in my syndicate so thats my interest whats yours ?