more to the point fred how many clubs can afford to get wheelchair access and a disabled toilet put in a lot of clubs are run out of huts,garages, lockups ,etc etc how can they get these put in place like these members do go to the toilet before you go to the club and im afraid its a fact of life not all places can be wheelchair friendly eg if your clubs up a flight or two of stairs how can you adapt that for a wheelchair i was under the impression that unless you were building or renovating a toilet/ building you didnt have to provide these facilitys thats what it used to be , may have changed now