thanks for you advice Mate, old birds season has gone almost to plan for me, winning 6/8 inland races, and 2/3 channel races its the young birds what i found to become hard with working, Exersicing the cocks, Plus having young birds training has got on top of me, ive had won 2/4 yb races so far so me method is there just find it a struggle at times so i had thought about a flying partner