peter pandy

This post is exactly what I was attempting to achieve and why I started the post on destruction.

Mick, Offence never entered my mind especially from an Irish man and I do appreciate what you wrote however we in central Scotland have 50 miles direct South of us the Southern Uplands which peak at about 2000 feet or thereabouts and the birds dont fly over but have to negotiate a route normally to the East which adds perhaps an extra 40 to 60 miles to our flying times over our Eastern counterparts which they are forever forgetful off when believing they have superior pigeons. It is for this reason that Central Scotland pigeons must be schooled as we are the heart and soul of pigeon racing in Scotland ie;- The Central belt has the most density of fanciers without us the sport is doomed.

Seriously considering the Forth & Clyde Federation.

Tell me about it !!.

Did you and the west coast fanciers stop sending because of finance ? or did you believe it would be better financially pool wise

Thank-you for your thoughts and reply as it is always constructive to the discussed matter. I will not attempt to rectify what to me could be an error in your thinking however if you believe that pigeons do not have to be schooled then that is your perogative. Coming from Ireland I find it strange that the home of the finest race horses which are schooled should find a pigeon fancier with a different view.

Scottish Central Combine used to have a Yearling only race from Cheltenham when we all went down the west route and it was extremely successfull followed up by a race from Sartilly which completed the race programmes for the 4 Feds all very well supported. Nobody seems to be able to tell me why they were discontinued ?.

Unfortunately I am in the Midland Federation and they have determined to go down the West route being convoyed with the SNFC as soon as possible but what can you expect when the Fed President is the SNFC Secretary. What chance my birds being schooled ??.

EH ???

Andy, I was an inaugral member of the Gwent Greater Distance Club which was affiliated to the BICC and would have made a successful model for clubs up here. I dont believe I am being nostalgic when I say the quicker we return to what we had which was a success the better. It is never to late to return to the grass roots of racing pigeons it only requires a determination by the members. There are better ways to fly other than the old ways. It only takes common sense...

Not so many years ago Federations transported their members birds only doubling up with the Fed next door for the last inland race where they were all basicaly racing into the same area. Combines emerged with local Feds to ensure all birds were racing into a small area and all the fanciers were reasonably happy with returns. So what changed to destroy what was successfull ??. A certain few fanciers wanted to be big cheeses and attempted to destroy the proven successfull ways by encouraging the SNFC to offer inland races which they would offer to convoy Federations cheaper than the past. Federation members being Scottish could see that they were going to have cheaper racing without looking to the future and jumped aboard creating a false SNFC membership but hey ho who cares when cheaper birdage is offered. So instead of our yearlings and two year olds being schooled to race into a small area such as Combines they are subjected to being dragged over the length and breadth of Scotland AND you wonder why their is a shortage of distance birds.

Flew the exact same system years ago and won everything up to 400 miles.

Countrwide stores supply 25 metre electric poultry fences complete for about £200 or try "e" bay

Saw a pigeon fly straight through a 6 x 6 ins window so I reckon whatever size landing board ? Is the size of the bit of wood you have.

Fit an electric poultry mesh fence and once hit by 15,000 volts they never return. does not matter whether its cat dog fox or two legged vermin. Peace of mind prevails.

Count me in Lewis.

Cheque's in post.

P.M. sent

OK Derek its the morra !! Please do tell as you have us all in suspenders.

Back of the post office in Carronshore is a guy who sells second hand timber and boards at a very reasonable price.

DRIVEL

A very interesting proposiition that should have been implemented 100 years ago at the conception of the SNFC if the fanciers from the East & West did not scupper it. Over the years the East & West fanciers have went out of their way to make sure 1500 fanciers in the North West, Central & Fife West of Dunfermline would either not be allowed to leave the East Section because of the pools they would lose and the West Section members were scared of the pools they would lose to them not that they ever gave the thought that it would increase the pools available. I recall a similar proposition a couple of years back and Charlie Graham laid on 4 buses from the East to defeat it. All I have read so far with the exception of a decent minded few REAL FANCIERS are the usual I am alright Jack and expletive removed* you.

Bonnybridge bus has a couple of seats spare

Purchased my first one which was a partition heater "both sides heat up" 5 years ago at Blackpool including Hygrostat and Temp control I think it was about £200. Ordered another. one sided this year and picked it up at Blackpool again £180. Costs to run is dependant on the temp and moisture you want to run them at which can be zero up to £2 per day in winter.

Have 1 in each section