As you may know Ian, I was the person that enabled everyone to get a lottery grant and I knew that the lottery would've taken back all their grants if they knew that clubs were keeping members out. Ironically , I was one that was being kept out but there was no way I would've stooped so low to shop anybody, ive always done the right thing regarding the pigeon sport and nobody can ever argue that. The SHU told me if I wanted a club then id need to start one up myself, I wonder if this would still apply if I was of a different origin. :emoticon-0179-headbang: I can honestly say, the SHU DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO HELP ME as a fully paid up member and supporter of all their causes.