philg50 Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 Denis young 1942 - 1945 leader of the SNP party asked the Scottish people to refuse their conscription to fight for UK in the war was because he wanted the break from England then not because he was a NAZI though Westminster called him that he stood jail for his beleifs ,the SNP party was formed in 1934Sorry Douglas Young( old timers moment)
Novice Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 Denis young 1942 - 1945 leader of the SNP party asked the Scottish people to refuse their conscription to fight for UK in the war was because he wanted the break from England then not because he was a NAZI though Westminster called him that he stood jail for his beleifs ,the SNP party was formed in 1934Would you like to tell us about Arthur Donaldson and his history?
tiger Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 Would you like to tell us about Arthur Donaldson and his history? I take it you never found that sheep
Novice Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 I take it you never found that ������No John I was actually just checking my mother's house as she comes home tomorrow morning.
Guest billy duguid Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 The way Thatcher let the working man buy his council house was to stop him going on strike.If you had a mortgage would you.About independence, if that was on offer back in the 60s or 70s when SCOTLAND had all its industry ie shipbuilding steel fishing farming in fact we were self sufficient.I would have voted yes.What has Scotland got to offer now nothing If the vote comes its definate NO for me..
dunc50 Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 I have often wondered what Freedom and Independence really meant ??. Freedom.. from what ?, as we do and say basically, whatever we want within the laws of the Country and have the freedom to improve ourselves either through knowledge or work, which is rewarding mentally or financially. Their are no constraints upon either.Independence.. So some want to be a separate country from the U.K. ?. I can go along with that reasoning however Independence is supposed to be outwith the control of any other country which rather defeats the purpose of breaking from one to be part of another by having to accept E.U. rules on trade. So that is not freedom either..It has been mooted that we could survive on our main exports which are Whisky, Electronics and Service Industries. 80% of Scotland's Distilleries are foreign owned, 70% of Electronic Firms are foreign owned and I know nothing about Service Industries apart from Wee Jean from Leith Walk.Naw I will stick with the U.K. as it has looked after me and my family for 70 years and gave us everything we have wished for and don't wish to be ruled by the Tartan Tories which the SNP was termed in the past.here here
philg50 Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 Would you like to tell us about Arthur Donaldson and his history?Any socialist thinking party can have sympathies leaning to Fascism and communism but the part does not make up the whole ,if you had a party full of people with the same level of ideas and principles we would end of with a party like Liberal glad to jump on the band wagon and give up what their party was or Labour a now poor reflection of the social party they were meant to be ,and ofcourse Tory the rich mans answer to benefits for themselves off the backs of others ,believe me anyone can find propoganda to further there cause and put down a looming opposition .And yes i know the history of my party as well.Now thats me last on this near 2 year to go yet.
peter pandy Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 First of all Mrs T was a bast,,d further more that policy of selling council houses That's why people can't get them now fact Just ask wee Arthur scargill your tory government stitched up the some miners with help of the police proved and your biggest lie you come home to retire? Them why did you go for full time job with the snfc John, John, John, You know fine well that I offered to do the SNFC job on a Part Time basis as it is not a full time occupation. A couple of races, A Presentation Dinner, A Balance Sheet and a couple of Committee Meetings does not add up to 40 hours per week. Oh aye and I only asked for half the wages they were offering. I do not know the parentage of Maggie so wont comment, Coal I know a little about and its destruction of the environment watching Sulphur Dioxide spewing out the chimneys of Longannet Power Station and regards Council House Sales !, well I do know you will get a house immediately if you are an Immigrant, on Invalidity, Single Parent, Junkie or Released Prisoner from Jail, but not, if you are not in the categories I have mentioned. Please remember Wee Mary and I lived in a garage for a number of months because we did not, or know how, to screw the system, Nor did we want to know..For a wee bit more information. I am very friendly with a past leader of the SNP who gave me the following information "If you tell lies often enough then the populace will eventually believe them" Which is why he no longer supports them.
tiger Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 John, John, John, You know fine well that I offered to do the SNFC job on a Part Time basis as it is not a full time occupation. A couple of races, A Presentation Dinner, A Balance Sheet and a couple of Committee Meetings does not add up to 40 hours per week. Oh aye and I only asked for half the wages they were offering. I do not know the parentage of Maggie so wont comment, Coal I know a little about and its destruction of the environment watching Sulphur Dioxide spewing out the chimneys of Longannet Power Station and regards Council House Sales !, well I do know you will get a house immediately if you are an Immigrant, on Invalidity, Single Parent, Junkie or Released Prisoner from Jail, but not, if you are not in the categories I have mentioned. Please remember Wee Mary and I lived in a garage for a number of months because we did not, or know how, to screw the system, Nor did we want to know..For a wee bit more information. I am very friendly with a past leader of the SNP who gave me the following information "If you tell lies often enough then the populace will eventually believe them" Which is why he no longer supports them. Well Peter you had a council house witch you bought and then sold then had the cheek to ask for a other one how many house's do you want? And who pays for your rent? greed is a terrible thing you want to be a tory but your not any better or worse than the people you mentioned
tiger Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 And while on rant the royal family were nazi sympathiser see footage of it :@
peter pandy Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 Well Peter you had a council house witch you bought and then sold then had the cheek to ask for a other one how many house's do you want? And who pays for your rent? greed is a terrible thing you want to be a tory but your not any better or worse than the people you mentionedNaw John I bought and sold 2 Council Houses, And gave my kids most of the proceeds. I worked and paid my Taxes and National Insurance for 50 years apart from the Shilling when employed in Saudi Arabia but all my money was sent home which Wee Mary endeavoured to try her best spending making sure their was nothing left for me to spend on Doos.I, in all honesty am a Tory and of the belief that if more were honest about themselves they might find they are at heart too. I was of the opinion many years ago that Scotland was a fabulous Country until I ventured further South than Gretna and let me tell you the grass is definitely greener the further South you go and I mean that literally.P.S. Its past your bath and bed time.
peter pandy Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 And while on rant the royal family were nazi sympathiser see footage of it :@Oh Dear that was 87 years ago and to think I swore on oath to protect "Queen and Country".
Guest mambo Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 if the snp were to get independence we would not have an army navy or air force to defend us so the snp would close down Kinloss Lossiemouth and Leuchers bases as England would not subsidise them the moray people should be having a good look at there MP and his thoughts on things before the next election he could wipe out the moray area overnight they would close Faslane which will badly effect the west of Scotland The uk would no longer build ships on the clyde so it would close as well affecting the central belt you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out how many jobs would be written off the first week I'm all for devolution but the snp have abused the powers given to push there own agenda for a separate country come what may time to wise up If Germany and France,and can make bids for uk, oil and boat work, why can't Scotland make a tender for such work,because your independent doesn't mean yer services are dead
BLACK W F Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 If Germany and France,and can make bids for uk, oil and boat work, why can't Scotland make a tender for such work,because your independent doesn't mean yer services are dead Danny get a grip what work is there ship building now only basically navy contracts do u honestly think they will stay in Scotland
Guest mambo Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 Danny get a grip what work is there ship building now only basically navy contracts do u honestly think they will stay in ScotlandThere are ships getting built in Scotland, how many are getting built in Newcastle like diversity is the name of the game now like, has may ever visited the place you ask,Newcastle ain't a good advert for anything as there geordies every where, looking for work, whae I man. Lol
BLACK W F Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 There are ships getting built in Scotland, how many are getting built in Newcastle like diversity is the name of the game now like, has may ever visited the place you ask,Newcastle ain't a good advert for anything as there geordies every where, looking for work, whae I man. Lol Danny maybe they only want proper work not carers work lol theres hardly any ship building any where that's a fact the ship yards are long gone like the steel works and mines
Guest mambo Posted March 22, 2017 Report Posted March 22, 2017 Danny maybe they only want proper work not carers work lol theres hardly any ship building any where that's a fact the ship yards are long gone like the steel works and minesAlan ask your self this you mention shipyards steel and coal all them we lost and your saying we can't manage on our own tell me why a government that f/us over now wants to put her arm arround a loss making country
Harry0 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Posted March 22, 2017 Alan ask your self this you mention shipyards steel and coal all them we lost and your saying we can't manage on our own tell me why a government that f/us over now wants to put her arm arround a loss making countryyer strainge cost so lot to keep yuo scottis baileng yuo out so whay theye do desprit to kerp giving yuo hand ouwts .Devias besterds nead yuo money
Guest mambo Posted March 22, 2017 Report Posted March 22, 2017 yer strainge cost so lot to keep yuo scottis baileng yuo out so whay theye do desprit to kerp giving yuo hand ouwts .Devias besterds nead yuo moneyYou have there card marked harry
tiger Posted March 22, 2017 Report Posted March 22, 2017 Naw John I bought and sold 2 Council Houses, And gave my kids most of the proceeds. I worked and paid my Taxes and National Insurance for 50 years apart from the Shilling when employed in Saudi Arabia but all my money was sent home which Wee Mary endeavoured to try her best spending making sure their was nothing left for me to spend on Doos.I, in all honesty am a Tory and of the belief that if more were honest about themselves they might find they are at heart too. I was of the opinion many years ago that Scotland was a fabulous Country until I ventured further South than Gretna and let me tell you the grass is definitely greener the further South you go and I mean that literally.P.S. Its past your bath and bed time.Maybe time to return south Bye
BLACK W F Posted March 22, 2017 Report Posted March 22, 2017 There are ships getting built in Scotland, how many are getting built in Newcastle like diversity is the name of the game now like, has may ever visited the place you ask,Newcastle ain't a good advert for anything as there geordies every where, looking for work, whae I man. LolDanny u write some shiete they are navy contracts there is very little ship building in the uk now most is in Japan and Germany because they are cheaper
Guest mambo Posted March 22, 2017 Report Posted March 22, 2017 Danny u write some shiete they are navy contracts there is very little ship building in the uk now most is in Japan and Germany because they are cheaperYou don't under stand compatability, if we don't need to pay the uk any money we start each year with 28 billion in our own kitty, I think Alan you are all agog with Lizzy, and scared in case she disowns you all.but she will the young people will put her down they don't care to much for pomp
BLACK W F Posted March 22, 2017 Report Posted March 22, 2017 Danny I know where we are better off and its certainly not with the SNP
Guest mambo Posted March 22, 2017 Report Posted March 22, 2017 Danny I know where we are better off and its certainly not with the SNPThe SNP are not for life, but the young people will decide that, at present they have nothing going forward with British rule so they will revolt and vote for freedom for there own wee bit of land don't under estimate them
BLACK W F Posted March 22, 2017 Report Posted March 22, 2017 The SNP are not for life, but the young people will decide that, at present they have nothing going forward with British rule so they will revolt and vote for freedom for there own wee bit of land don't under estimate themDanny your living in cloud 9 land we will see just shortly its a pity wee sturgeon did not put her energy's into running Scotland and improving the education system and nat health instead of calling for stupid ballots wasting puplic funds but there again she is being prompted by Salmon who run a mile after getting his *expletive removed* kicked last time
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