Snp Embarrassing

[sandy25]

i hav eye problwm with dibeetis and hard see keyz on phome sory if cantnot resd it.

What I said was not directed at you Harry but at VMS whose a bit of a prat and english lover .I have no problem with understanding what your saying at all

all the best

sandy

[tiger]

Well well 11 million pensions to cut and the oap pension next in-line to get cuts, better together my a hole

[hotrod]

Well well 11 million pensions to cut and the oap pension next in-line to get cuts, better together my a hole

John so do u think that won't happen if Scotland got independence ? Me personally I think I will be worse off ,paying far more tax . Ps I'm not arguing just debating like .

[Walter swanston]

This thread is titled SNP embarrassing.When you read some of the stuff it's no hard to see who should be embarrassed.Whats wrong with you guys? .We are Scots and we want to run our ain country what's wrong with that?. Maybes youse agree with Ruthie and the Dug that we are too wee, too poor and too stupid.

[VMS]

What I said was not directed at you Harry but at VMS whose a bit of a prat and english lover .I have no problem with understanding what your saying at all

all the best

sandy

There is more than just England that make up the UK,my argument precisely one IQ test = one vote

[dunc50]

lot o blind (SNP) people in the country, the country is falling to bits, drive 100 yards without hitting a pot hole, sit in hospital AE, SEE HOW QUICK YOU GET TOOK, the so called big bad british government put a lot of english out of jobs to keep scottish shipyards afloat by building british warships, and pumped £350m into north sea oil a few weeks back, o and independence would see the nuclear deterrent sent packing, more jobs and businesses gone, but not tae worry we can all get the claymores out and warpaint on and start screaming FREEEEEEEEDOOM,,with the we ladyboy at the front,, MONDAY RANT OVER, JMO

[sandy25]

Just tried to reply to post , after finished and on to post my message was scrubbed out and my page redirected to "trivago" any one else suffering from this ? Any help administrator. ?

[Roland]

46.7 billion Scotland pays for services and taxes to the UK ,and Scotland at the moment get back 28.8 billion to run our afairs ,we pay on average £10,000 per head of population in Scotland compared to £9,200 paid by Englands fair people ,if we close the borders to foriegn workers the fishing industry ,the meat industry ,the soft fruit growing farms and seasonal workers ,nurses, Doctors,NHs in general vets ,meat inspection,and the majority of hotel industry would crumble ,because the people in this so called United Kingdom would ,generation after generation would rather get their money off the dole ,not all but a large number.

 

If costs are say - for example $3billion, then twice as many or 4- 5- 6 paying an equals share means that the more paying in less the cost.

Now the fundamental payments would be the same, and only partially more costs added as more cough up etc. An obvious fact.

Like a pigeon club that member send to the races. the cost of the federations are the same. More in lesser the share to pay.

Any way, I've stirred the pot here as much as I care too.

Personally - Though England would be the main benefactors if Scotland Left the U.K. I am more than happy for them to be a part - and self run - country. I believe seriously that in times of troubles and strife ALL parts will be, and are at the grind wheel doing their best.

We have great competitiveness gamesmanship. Fabulous banter as it is, and to be honest the majority are happy and pleased to get alongside of each other.

You know, UNLIKE THE SCOTS - we here cheer our hearts out supporting the other nations.

A simple fact here that your greats in sport are more supported and loved here than every in your home land.

The great tenacities of so many Scots have oft brought tears of joys to me in their endeavours to WIN. To be proud of their homelands... MUCH appreciated here. SO in reality I would rather that Scotland stays as part of us in their Country ... Not least for the simple fact that they couldn't afford to go alone, but as a whole it has been good for the last 300 years for all countries. JMO

[Guest mambo]

You tell me what bad things have the EU done against the working man , go on what have they done,and I will tell you that is why the torys don't like being told what rules they have to follow,why in Europe fags drink and such like are cheaper yet the uk want to keep us shaffted to suit them.they get told and thanks to the EU we have had no a bad living for forty odd years.

[Harry0]

seen thios on othir dite

Do you know what sickens me about Scottish unionists? All they do is down thier own country, make out we are worthless and not clever enough to run our own affairs, since 1970 this country has produced more oil than dubai, Do you see any schemes in Dubai like Govan or Easterhouse lol Are there people homeless or going to foodbanks etc All I see is the yes people being proud of thier wee country and all I see is *expletive removed* hate n bile getting spewed.from the papers to the TV against the indy movement, see if yer a naw that's *expletive removed* fine, but stop running doon yer ain wee country ya shower a horrible *expletive removed*, saor alba

lot o blind (SNP) people in the country, the country is falling to bits, drive 100 yards without hitting a pot hole, sit in hospital AE, SEE HOW QUICK YOU GET TOOK, the so called big bad british government put a lot of english out of jobs to keep scottish shipyards afloat by building british warships, and pumped £350m into north sea oil a few weeks back, o and independence would see the nuclear deterrent sent packing, more jobs and businesses gone, but not tae worry we can all get the claymores out and warpaint on and start screaming FREEEEEEEEDOOM,,with the we ladyboy at the front,, MONDAY RANT OVER, JMO

Do you know what sickens me about Scottish unionists? All they do is down thier own country, make out we are worthless and not clever enough to run our own affairs, since 1970 this country has produced more oil than dubai, Do you see any schemes in Dubai like Govan or Easterhouse lol Are there people homeless or going to foodbanks etc All I see is the yes people being proud of thier wee country and all I see is *expletive removed* hate n bile getting spewed.from the papers to the TV against the indy movement, see if yer a naw that's *expletive removed* fine, but stop running doon yer ain wee country ya shower a horrible *expletive removed*, saor alba

[philg50]

If costs are say - for example $3billion, then twice as many or 4- 5- 6 paying an equals share means that the more paying in less the cost.

Now the fundamental payments would be the same, and only partially more costs added as more cough up etc. An obvious fact.

Like a pigeon club that member send to the races. the cost of the federations are the same. More in lesser the share to pay.

Any way, I've stirred the pot here as much as I care too.

Personally - Though England would be the main benefactors if Scotland Left the U.K. I am more than happy for them to be a part - and self run - country. I believe seriously that in times of troubles and strife ALL parts will be, and are at the grind wheel doing their best.

We have great competitiveness gamesmanship. Fabulous banter as it is, and to be honest the majority are happy and pleased to get alongside of each other.

You know, UNLIKE THE SCOTS - we here cheer our hearts out supporting the other nations.

A simple fact here that your greats in sport are more supported and loved here than every in your home land.

The great tenacities of so many Scots have oft brought tears of joys to me in their endeavours to WIN. To be proud of their homelands... MUCH appreciated here. SO in reality I would rather that Scotland stays as part of us in their Country ... Not least for the simple fact that they couldn't afford to go alone, but as a whole it has been good for the last 300 years for all countries. JMO

First paragraph i agree ,the rest is pure tosh ,English supremacy is dead and gone ,UK are the clowns of Europe at this time

[sandy25]

Yes Mambo you've got it in one Is that exactly why we're leaving the EU was it just a Tory plan to have their way and a rigged referendum much like the one before it what exactly is the facts there do you think we will ever know?

atb

sandy

[Henrik]

That's the problem Stuart, the "MAJORITY" of Scotland didn't want Brexit, so it has to be sooner so we can at long last start deciding what's best for us.

A lot of us voted to stay as wee burnie said if it went out she would call a referendum

[tiger]

I'll tell you what's embarrassing is that the unionist can't see the woods for the trees

The pound worth 20 percent less than pre brexit

NHS in a mess

Pension now going to get hit

Human rights act going

Then you got the clown that bumps about the state of the roads go to England just the same,

Look at Westminster it is them that are forcing the cuts on Scotland

[Guest mambo]

Yes Mambo you've got it in one Is that exactly why we're leaving the EU was it just a Tory plan to have their way and a rigged referendum much like the one before it what exactly is the facts there do you think we will ever know?

atb

sandy

Yes, we all hear on here, about not liking being told by Brussels,I ask , being told what exactly, who are they talking about, is it us the working class ,or is it the torys,that want slave labour, but wants to hunt them, when work is done, people of the UK moved away ,for more money , and a better life style, who are we to stop other's I say get your head down and make a life for your own family,and not worry about things this government threateneds us with

If we get independence it will be the people of Scotland telling governments what's what,and we will be putting our shoulders to the wheel for prosperity that you can be sure of any squib with that and it will be hammered out the day of any goverment ruling over the Scottish people is, and will be over. it will be by committees , with the highest integrity's

[Roland]

First paragraph i agree ,the rest is pure tosh ,English supremacy is dead and gone ,UK are the clowns of Europe at this time

 

Well it is only some of the people of Scotland that hark on about 'English supremacy' We don't! Indeed I have never ever come across it. So that says it all I guess. The Scot - some or many, MUST THEN automatically take that on board and believe it. But like I say, we don't... Maybe the inferior complex is of their' own doing then.

 

Yes I presume 300 years ago the Lords etc. may thought that ... But not the nation as a whole.

 

Indeed the 'Flower of Scotland' makes us smile and even laugh. What other countries must think lord knows! Gosh when the best that a country can offer - to sing about, is 800 years ago mixed with untruths and stupidity to say the least. So again it is the Scots syndrome that they bring upon themselves. At least the 'Haka' symbolizes a meaning ... A welcome in fact.

The Flower of Scotland ... well lol.

[Roland]

lot o blind (SNP) people in the country, the country is falling to bits, drive 100 yards without hitting a pot hole, sit in hospital AE, SEE HOW QUICK YOU GET TOOK, the so called big bad british government put a lot of english out of jobs to keep scottish shipyards afloat by building british warships, and pumped £350m into north sea oil a few weeks back, o and independence would see the nuclear deterrent sent packing, more jobs and businesses gone, but not tae worry we can all get the claymores out and warpaint on and start screaming FREEEEEEEEDOOM,,with the we ladyboy at the front,, MONDAY RANT OVER, JMO

 

Do you for a moment think the same isn't here?! Worse or better, the UK government ply money into Scotland ... Just think how much worse it would be if we didn't. When on top of that you would be taxes times over more!

[dal2]

Well it is only some of the people of Scotland that hark on about 'English supremacy' We don't! Indeed I have never ever come across it. So that says it all I guess. The Scot - some or many, MUST THEN automatically take that on board and believe it. But like I say, we don't... Maybe the inferior complex is of their' own doing then.

 

Yes I presume 300 years ago the Lords etc. may thought that ... But not the nation as a whole.

 

Indeed the 'Flower of Scotland' makes us smile and even laugh. What other countries must think lord knows! Gosh when the best that a country can offer - to sing about, is 800 years ago mixed with untruths and stupidity to say the least. So again it is the Scots syndrome that they bring upon themselves. At least the 'Haka' symbolizes a meaning ... A welcome in fact.

The Flower of Scotland ... well lol.

Rebellious Scots to crush? Verse3 I think.....that will be just the same Eh?

[philg50]

Do you for a moment think the same isn't here?! Worse or better, the UK government ply money into Scotland ... Just think how much worse it would be if we didn't. When on top of that you would be taxes times over more!

Ply money into Scotland where did you read that the Beano ,Scotland pays 46.something billion to Westmonster in taxes and through the barnet formula get 28,8 billion back ,and being cut every year ,we used to get 35billion in fact i think it was 36.4billion Westminster has nothing to offer but austerity ,and some of you think Scotland relys entirely on oil ,since the 70s onwards The UK have floated the English economy on it ,if it needs a bit more tax to be independent in Scotland so be it.

[Guest mambo]

Ply money into Scotland where did you read that the Beano ,Scotland pays 46.something billion to Westmonster in taxes and through the barnet formula get 28,8 billion back ,and being cut every year ,we used to get 35billion in fact i think it was 36.4billion Westminster has nothing to offer but austerity ,and some of you think Scotland relys entirely on oil ,since the 70s onwards The UK have floated the English economy on it ,if it needs a bit more tax to be independent in Scotland so be it.

Yes totally agree, taxes do not have to be taxing . would rather be free and our own boss no one telling us what and what we can't do

[sandy25]

Everyone goes on and on about oil and how much it means .

well here's a thing how much does the uk make from the tax on whisky does anyone know where all the money from that has went over the years .

Would an independent Scotland make more whisky and tax it less or just the same and tax it more .

Who knows the workings of the politically insane that seem to hinder this country .

atb

sandy

[VMS]

Hears one for yous to ponder Londons Financial revenue amounts to more than all of the UKs other outputs combined big bucks🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[sandy25]

Another thing if any city in England was taxed the way Scotland is what do you think would happen ?

How many cities in England have populations far in excess of the population of Scotland ?

We dont hear of Manchester putting up 46 billion to get half back now do we ?

Questions like this could be asked all day long .

Bottom line is we're all tired of being taken for granted and taxed out of a decent life .Expected to fight the wars for them wipe their arses when needed and expected to accept their immigrants into our communities taking the sugar from our kids tea at our expense

enough is ENOUGH .....

sandy

[dal2]

Hears one for yous to ponder Londons Financial revenue amounts to more than all of the UKs other outputs combined big bucks🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

Does Scotland get more if they perform well or do we just have to bail them out?

[sandy25]

Funny that surely head office of RBS is in london but when it went to the wall it all of a sudden became solely scottish and we were conveniently to blame couldn't have been bad trading in london now could it

sandy