neila Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 Today saw all the distance minded pigeons being left together with Thurso in mind. These won't race now till the event but will receive training toKeep them ticking, the cocks may go to this coming weeks race sent on the drive. The sprint pigeons still on widowhood. I haven't seen the previous weeks fed result yet to update where we are on that. When I start my two week build up for Thurso I will go quiet in depth for those that are interested that will be interesting just to see your change in food types and amounts fed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 (edited) Today will see both feeds for the distance pigeons consisting of what I would call a heavy in protein mixture, which is a mixture of maple peas, green peas, yellow peas, and mung beans. Regarding measurements it's 15grams each morning and night today so making the quantity for the day being around 1oz and 1/4. The distance pigeons as they will be sitting around til basketing they will be trained regular, and tuesday will see them going 47 miles. My good hen Scratch was hawked at Perth, so unfortunately she will be unable to go to Thurso, the race I wanted her to go all year, but she made it home which is the main thing. Edited June 19, 2017 by Wiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Birds had a disaster, all home but well off the pace. Tomorrow the buildUp for Thurso is going to start as I had messed up my days. One more sprint old bird race left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesyBhoy Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 So you are competing with the same Doos from the sprints to the distance races.. just modifying the feeding as the season progresses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 So you are competing with the same Doos from the sprints to the distance races.. just modifying the feeding as the season progresses? Jonesy, I require my birds to compete at every distance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 How many that perform at 100 still perform at 500? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 How many that perform at 100 still perform at 500? Dal, how can I really give a number? My best hen pigeon at 72 miles, is one of my best at 500 miles. One of my best cock racers at 177 miles is also one of my best at 500 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) To get the best results I'm a believer you must send your best, not just send the birds that have done nothing all year! Edited June 24, 2017 by Wiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Dal, how can I really give a number? My best hen pigeon at 72 miles, is one of my best at 500 miles. One of my best cock racers at 177 miles is also one of my best at 500 miles.That's all you needed to say...good birds are good birds kept in good order will win anywhere from anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluey Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 I think that where you live and race to affects how you can race your birds. Where I live inland racing goes to 200+ miles after that we are over the channel which is a different ball game. I do not send good winners over the water, mainly based on their ancestry and also not wanting to risk them being lost. I do have some awaiting liberation from 400 miles that have scored inland more than once and have been across before but not arrived in prize winning times from the channel races so do do not have a great deal of confidence in them this time. However they had to go they were always beaten by loft mates in the earlier races and are now at an age where they are approaching the end of their racing careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) I think that where you live and race to affects how you can race your birds. Where I live inland racing goes to 200+ miles after that we are over the channel which is a different ball game. I do not send good winners over the water, mainly based on their ancestry and also not wanting to risk them being lost. I do have some awaiting liberation from 400 miles that have scored inland more than once and have been across before but not arrived in prize winning times from the channel races so do do not have a great deal of confidence in them this time. However they had to go they were always beaten by loft mates in the earlier races and are now at an age where they are approaching the end of their racing careers. Racing north road and south road are two different ball games, but for me what Mark Bulled toldMe in conversations with him many years ago regardless off the route always rings true, too get your best results you must send your best, it's just depending on whether you have the balls to send your best that far! Edited June 24, 2017 by Wiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 The build up for 510 miles started today. Birds being fed 50/50 mixture both morning and night. The morning feed consisted of 15grams per pigeon of a depurative and a heavy protein mixture, and the evening same mixture but 20 grams per pigeon. Mondays feed will consisted of 100% protein mixture and will bE 15 grams morning and night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neila Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 Hi Wiley Why do you up the evening feed for the one day ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) Hi Wiley Why do you up the evening feed for the one day ? Hi Buddy As on Saturday's here the birds are fed once a day and only 15grams of a depurative type mixture. To make sure digestion is right Edited June 25, 2017 by Wiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluey Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 I usually up the maize and fats for my last channel race, with only one contender I will now up the protein (more maples in the mix) a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 I usually up the maize and fats for my last channel race, with only one contender I will now up the protein (maples) a little The fats will increase on my system, but very little maize is used here sprint or distance racing and is only a very small percentages in my mixes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 Hi WileyWhy do you up the evening feed for the one day ? Hi BuddyAs on Saturday's here the birds are fed once a day and only 15grams of a depurative type mixture. To make sure digestion is right I should add on Tuesday we will see the morning feed drop in grams right up until the Saturday, that is to create appetite also as from Saturday we will have 5 days till basket, and in any race the last 4 days really are what is important. But what you'll notice with the last two days I feed very light in composition but heavy in quantity. And on the last 4 days Hemp and sunflower hearts will Be infront of the birds at all times so they can take what they like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg50 Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 I am sorry but ihave watched you posts and as far as i am conserned you are talkng rubbish contact a good distance flyer up north here and they will advice you with regards real distance flying ,up untill this your posts have been helpfull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) Sorry you feel that way Phil, but it is the way I do it, why would i need advice from a good distance flyer up north, when I have won the London North Road Combine at both 510 miles and 599 miles, and winning two RPRA Region awards for my achievements at distance racing, and having a bird in the LNRC Hall of Fame, runner up Tommy long trophy(best average all distance racing is LNRC) and best 3 bird average from 510 miles in LNRC? Edited June 25, 2017 by Wiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnhunter Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 Sorry you feel that way Phil, but it is the way I do it, why would i need advice from a good distance flyer up north, when I have won the London North Road Combine at both 510 miles and 599 miles, and winning two RPRA Region awards for my achievements at distance racing, and having a bird in the LNRC Hall of Fame, runner up Tommy long trophy(best average all distance racing is LNRC) and best 3 bird average from 510 miles in LNRC?a guess you must be doing something right,what do you think ,PHIL LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg50 Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 IMO yes i can see you are a formidable flyer in your own field ,but distance flyers up here in the SNFC section G are flying on average 150 miles further than their counter parts in central Scotland ,i dont want to to take any thing from your results but ,flying south straight forward with regards to terrain ,flying south with regards to long distance your birds are getting rough terrain prior to leaving Scotland then it is plain sailing home ,wind ,pull ,etc which can and does interfere with allour hopes ,your feeding ideas are very informative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg50 Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 a guess you must be doing something right,what do you think ,PHIL LOLI dont think i am doing any thing right ,i only want recognishin for real distance flyers over rough terraine ??? am i wrong like !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluey Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 Even though flying natural I am seeing my birds eating very little, about an ounce a day when i see them leaving barley early in the week and paddy rice approaching the race. Thats why I will try Wiley`s approach of a bit more protein in the build up for my last channel race. ps looking like 2nd club from today at Messac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neila Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Hi Buddy As on Saturday's here the birds are fed once a day and only 15grams of a depurative type mixture. To make sure digestion is right Got you mate that makes sense to me thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Even though flying natural I am seeing my birds eating very little, about an ounce a day when i see them leaving barley early in the week and paddy rice approaching the race. Thats why I will try Wiley`s approach of a bit more protein in the build up for my last channel race. ps looking like 2nd club from today at Messac Blue, the protein will be removed from my build up by Wednesday, when it is 7 days till basketing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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