Good/bad Fanciers

[geordie1234]

I have never liked that saying about cream rising to the top Roland because in my not inconsiderable experience so does scum rise to the top of life's cesspool

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[Delboy]

I have never liked that saying about cream rising to the top Roland because in my not inconsiderable experience so does scum rise to the top of life's cesspool

 

How true this is Walter, if you look on pigeon chat you will see they are talking about some prominent, trusted fancier at the buster keaton.

[just ask me]

There good pigeon keepers and there good pigeon racers there 2 completely different things

[yeboah]

I think the easiest way to divine it after today's tarbes post

Good pigeon man = one who does not cheat

Bad pigeon man = one who does

[Roland]

I have never liked that saying about cream rising to the top Roland because in my not inconsiderable experience so does scum rise to the top of life's cesspool

 

No doubt true Walter, but then we are referring to Pigeon fanciers ...

Mind in light of the NFC cheat

[gulkie]

I have watched this discuction with interest and anger ,what right does anyone have to say who is a good

Or bad fancier , I was at the bottom of the sheet last week ,as I'm most. Weeks ,I've had my moments

As most fanciers do ,there is only one winner every week the rest are losers ,so keep in mind that just

Maybe the fanciers that never win anything that they keep going for the love of the sport and don't need to be

Told how good or how bad they are (myself included) take it from me there ain't many go through life as

Winners .so don't be judgemental on the lesser fanciers there are lots of us .

[gulkie]

I have watched this discuction with interest and anger ,what right does anyone have to say who is a good

Or bad fancier , I was at the bottom of the sheet last week ,as I'm most. Weeks ,I've had my moments

As most fanciers do ,there is only one winner every week the rest are losers ,so keep in mind that just

Maybe the fanciers that never win anything that they keep going for the love of the sport and don't need to be

Told how good or how bad they are (myself included) take it from me there ain't many go through life as

Winners .so don't be judgemental on the lesser fanciers there are lots of us .

I made these comments because I can't get to sleep.

[Roland]

Good Post gulkie. Like I said many different aspects contribute to Winners or losers. Also means available and location. Plus many may have superbly kept pigeons in supreme condition week in and month out. Hardly ever have ailments and health set backs. These are of course fanciers of the highest order.

Others it may mean 'Winning is the be all and end all .... But are they truthfully appreciating and enjoying their birds like many of us do? I doubt it.

I for one never dream of 'Culling' a bird regardless how bad or well it performs / breeds etc. Mine either go and choose to live else well or grow old happily in the place that they have enjoyed the freedom and safety of the hotel I provided for them. Will say though the main draw back can and is having sometimes too many.

[dal2]

Good Post gulkie. Like I said many different aspects contribute to Winners or losers. Also means available and location. Plus many may have superbly kept pigeons in supreme condition week in and month out. Hardly ever have ailments and health set backs. These are of course fanciers of the highest order.

Others it may mean 'Winning is the be all and end all .... But are they truthfully appreciating and enjoying their birds like many of us do? I doubt it.

I for one never dream of 'Culling' a bird regardless how bad or well it performs / breeds etc. Mine either go and choose to live else well or grow old happily in the place that they have enjoyed the freedom and safety of the hotel I provided for them. Will say though the main draw back can and is having sometimes too many.

Have you ever tried to be competitive or are you just assuming that people who win keep some kind of sweat house for pigeons??

[Roland]

Have you ever tried to be competitive or are you just assuming that people who win keep some kind of sweat house for pigeons??

 

I see you are spouting the brown stuff per usual. Plus the demeanour of stupidity in what you are implying.

 

In no way, let alone or in any aspect of the rubbish you spelt is of relevance. Nor can be drawn from any sense of any of my posts on this subject. Just a silly line plucked from out of nowhere per usual.

[dal2]

I see you are spouting the brown stuff per usual. Plus the demeanour of stupidity in what you are implying.

 

In no way, let alone or in any aspect of the rubbish you spelt is of relevance. Nor can be drawn from any sense of any of my posts on this subject. Just a silly line plucked from out of nowhere per usual.

Think ye forgot to answer the question there amongst yer P***. You stick to looking at yer pigeons.

[Roland]

You're pathetic Dal2. Your permanent goal to wind me up doesn't affect me - lesser ones always strive to bring the betters down eh! ... it's just how stupid and out of context the bait is that niggle me.- Of course, sadly you don't know, nor realise any better.

I don't brag regards my 'Swallows of summer', but that doesn't mean your contrive efforts bear any merit.

End off ... as again you take the topic right of course ... well done eh?

 

To answer your question Dal2 Yes, of course. Indeed used to prepare etc. Have also seen much, learnt much and know a little, and as such there is still a lot to be learned. Have been blessed with friends and Given or Bought good birds.

I fly in an area of 12 miles tops with 8 National winners or more, and very many high placed.

I know that only healthy and conditioned birds win races outside of when beaten by paper backs. Know also birds that never show can, and do all of a sudden win, and win well.

I know that Parents mean not a jot regards breeding and winners come in every shape, weight and size. I also know full well that many roads lead to Rome and none are sign posted.

[just ask me]

Stop the personal insults please everyone has a right to a opinion most people can discuss them without the insults

[philg50]

Some fowk that i know hardly handle a doo in their shed ,they usher them into the basket to train and to take to the race ,when asked about losses the reply is ,Awe thats just young doos ye have tae keep them gan ,thats just the doo game ,they keep over a hundred doos tae win a cardboard ticket ,if us lesser mortals dont race every week we are classed as not the real fanciers of the Federation this i have been told when it comes to an opinion even on here ,but the truth is i win nothing usually i send doos to race when and if it suits ,i know every doo in my shed ,i vaccinate my birds (does everyone ??)i keep them healthy well fed and in plenty room and every doo i lose i am fair sick ,the pleasure i get from my birds at the back door far excel the paper ticket ,Am i good or bad ???

[JohnQuinn]

Some fowk that i know hardly handle a doo in their shed ,they usher them into the basket to train and to take to the race ,when asked about losses the reply is ,Awe thats just young doos ye have tae keep them gan ,thats just the doo game ,they keep over a hundred doos tae win a cardboard ticket ,if us lesser mortals dont race every week we are classed as not the real fanciers of the Federation this i have been told when it comes to an opinion even on here ,but the truth is i win nothing usually i send doos to race when and if it suits ,i know every doo in my shed ,i vaccinate my birds (does everyone ??)i keep them healthy well fed and in plenty room and every doo i lose i am fair sick ,the pleasure i get from my birds at the back door far excel the paper ticket ,Am i good or bad ???

 

Well it's about opinions Phil and I reckon on yer post yer in the Good register lol

 

Results mean nowt if yer no enjoying the birds between races/seasons. Jmo.

[geordie1234]

Good post phil.... I used to think it was the be all and end all to go to every race when it's not...

[Guest johnhunter]

Think ye forgot to answer the question there amongst yer P***. You stick to looking at yer pigeons.

[William Reid]

I have watched this discuction with interest and anger ,what right does anyone have to say who is a good

Or bad fancier , I was at the bottom of the sheet last week ,as I'm most. Weeks ,I've had my moments

As most fanciers do ,there is only one winner every week the rest are losers ,so keep in mind that just

Maybe the fanciers that never win anything that they keep going for the love of the sport and don't need to be

Told how good or how bad they are (myself included) take it from me there ain't many go through life as

Winners .so don't be judgemental on the lesser fanciers there are lots of us .

Well said. Some guys need a pat on the back from their piers to get a BONNER.

[Roland]

Some fowk that i know hardly handle a doo in their shed ,they usher them into the basket to train and to take to the race ,when asked about losses the reply is ,Awe thats just young doos ye have tae keep them gan ,thats just the doo game ,they keep over a hundred doos tae win a cardboard ticket ,if us lesser mortals dont race every week we are classed as not the real fanciers of the Federation this i have been told when it comes to an opinion even on here ,but the truth is i win nothing usually i send doos to race when and if it suits ,i know every doo in my shed ,i vaccinate my birds (does everyone ??)i keep them healthy well fed and in plenty room and every doo i lose i am fair sick ,the pleasure i get from my birds at the back door far excel the paper ticket ,Am i good or bad ???

 

Good post. Realistic and true. Plus Ditto.

[Walter swanston]

John Quinn who is a highly respected pigeon fancier and rightly so started this thread but so far it remains uncertain what makes a good fancier in my case I freely admit to not being as competitive as some and I have no record of serious wins in races to point to.So perhaps this makes me a bad fancier.

On the other hand I have kept dos now for about 20 years and I have enjoyed every minute of my time in pigeons,buy the time Christmas comes I will know each bird individually and when the 2017 season starts I will I will race them and deeply regret each loss?However I will let my pigeons out each day ,weather permitting and enjoy seeing them circling which means as much to me as winning races does to others.Someone on this site disparagingly describes this practice as pigeon keeping rather fancying maybe he is right and I would hesitate to describe myself as a good fancier but I definitely enjoy my pigeons.

[dal2]

John Quinn who is a highly respected pigeon fancier and rightly so started this thread but so far it remains uncertain what makes a good fancier in my case I freely admit to not being as competitive as some and I have no record of serious wins in races to point to.So perhaps this makes me a bad fancier.

On the other hand I have kept dos now for about 20 years and I have enjoyed every minute of my time in pigeons,buy the time Christmas comes I will know each bird individually and when the 2017 season starts I will I will race them and deeply regret each loss?However I will let my pigeons out each day ,weather permitting and enjoy seeing them circling which means as much to me as winning races does to others.Someone on this site disparagingly describes this practice as pigeon keeping rather fancying maybe he is right and I would hesitate to describe myself as a good fancier but I definitely enjoy my pigeons.

Broad spectrum of views Walter. ....some saying that winners generally treat the birds with little respect and are mainly there to win and the ones that dont are cast aside. Do you know of any winners in your area that fit this description?

[dal2]

Broad spectrum of views Walter. ....some saying that winners generally treat the birds with little respect and are mainly there to win and the ones that dont are cast aside. Do you know of any winners in your area that fit this description?

Sorry meant to add......would the question have been easier to answer if it read diffo?

[Walter swanston]

I personally do not know of anyone around here who treats pigeons in so ruthless a manner although I attended a moot some years ago where a highly respected Lanarkshire fancier stated that the fanciers best friend is the bin.I cannot and will not subscribe to this viewpoint so maybe I am a bad fancier.

[kingbilly 1]

A good fancier is the first to shake the winers hand ✋ lol

[novo10]

A good fancier is the first to shake the winers hand ✋ lol

Am sick of u shaking my hand fatty