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[peter pandy]

Wee Brother sent 46 to Otterburn at the week-end and dropped 3, He timed in last week's Fed topper first to take 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,9,10,11,12th in the club before removing the ETS. Starting to pee everybody off in the club and probable 1st Fed to boot but will confirm later.

 

As stating earlier he has been away from the game for 20+ years and is not a reader off magazines nor weeklies so has not been brainwashed by so called new methods nor influenced by continental feeding and has stuck with time and tested methods giving his birds Beans,Peas,Tares,Wheat and a wee drop Maize with the only change being too breed a big team expecting the type of losses we have all become accustomed too at the club.

I can honestly say that when he takes up a hobby he is totally focused at becoming number one to the stage off utter commitment and dedication.

All is well in the loft and I am contemplating returning to deep litter with straw on the floor, the brain is willing but the body is starting to hurt when scraping out daily and wee Mary say's she aint dooin it..

[peter pandy]

Well wee brother was 2nd Fed with last week's 1st Fed topper and had another 4 on the result from Otterburn.

 

Not a lot happening in the loft at the moment with youngsters leaving the nest and all is well, I thought I would have missed not racing Young Birds however with all the losses going about I am not feeding the Bassas. I am sure a couple of trainers around November time from 50 miles will suffice to give them a bit of confidence for next year.

Took a trip round some farms looking for bales of Barley straw however they are all bailing with half ton rolls which wont fit into the car.. But there is one up at Coxidene who bales and will be harvesting in about a month so will be there again.

Sent away to Mercasystems for my usual order and was delivered in its time promised delivery date as advertised, I have never had a problem with them over the years but I always pay with PayPal. Has anyone tried their ""Ambush"" Pigeon Dip ??.

[peter pandy]

Third race for wee brother and after a 24Hr Hold Over he was 1,2 plus other positions in the club and 3rd,4th Fed plus three other positions dropping 22 from his 55 away.

Last Wednesday when he opened his loft the floor was awash with the dreaded YBS so that is him finished for the season and being the optimist that he is his attitude is "well it was fun while it lasted and I have not a bad team for next year".

Fourth race saw 2 members sending 12 Birds !!!!!.

[peter pandy]

Life this past couple of weeks have been extremely harrowing with health problems which came about when a twin double glazed window fell on my pinkie finger and I never felt a thing although it swelled up, I thought it strange until it dawned on me that the Tramadol [Opiate] pain killers I take had to be responsible !! So I have been on cold turkey since with the resulting withdrawel symptoms associated with the s/h/i/t. Sleepless nights, twitching limbs etc, but am determined never to take them again and 262 Hrs have passed since, but who's counting.

To keep me occupied Wee Mary has tried to keep me busy with moving furniture around and had to include our 180 Ltr aquarium which obviously had to be emptied before moving, [it still weighed a ton] and after refilling with water I read the instructions before introducing the inmates. It surprised me that fresh tap water would probably kill the fish as the Chlorine in the water would destroy the Bacteria in the gut making them susceptable to infection..

Ringing any Bells regarding YBS.. Perhaps Fred from Mastrick club could enlighten us further ??.

[andy Burgess]

congratulations on kicking your "drug addiction" Peter . how do you supply the water for your "doo,s" ? straight from the tap or ??

[peter pandy]

congratulations on kicking your "drug addiction" Peter . how do you supply the water for your "doo,s" ? straight from the tap or ??

Pail filled, agitated and left open for 24Hrs Andy, Have done it that way since the Seventies when working in the Phamaceutical Industry where we used either Distilled water or agitated mains water.

[andy Burgess]

Pail filled, agitated and left open for 24Hrs Andy, Have done it that way since the Seventies when working in the Phamaceutical Industry where we used either Distilled water or agitated mains water.

 

 

thanks for the reply Peter .

[dal2]

Pail filled, agitated and left open for 24Hrs Andy, Have done it that way since the Seventies when working in the Phamaceutical Industry where we used either Distilled water or agitated mains water.

Good old fashioned tap water doon here......but by the time you've added yer special mixer they won't taste chlorine

[peter pandy]

On the subject of Tap Water !, When I went to work for C.J. he insisted the 40 Gallon drum be filled and agitated, leaving for 24Hrs before use, I told him that it was my usual procedure for years and he stated it was a tip he recieved from Bernard De-Weerdt on an earlier visit years ago, I have also noticed that there is a Chlorinated smell from the water we drink although friends have never noticed it and at times is stronger than normal !! Perhaps they dont associate it as other than normal. In the house all our water is filtered through a Brita Kettle which knocks out all the crap.

By the way Steve well done on another great season doon there..

[peter pandy]

The loft has been like a burst pillow this past week with the moult seriously starting and I am now giving the birds Sedochol from Merca Systems and they have all been dipped in Ambush from the same company as I have always been off the belief that next years races are won at this time of the year. If they dont have the means with perfect feathering then you are disadvantaged, Linseed and Hormoform are also included in the high protein feed and rationing is not in the curriculum, Winter feed will be introduced at a later date to remove any excess fat and now my wee brother has joined the competition will give me the impetus to improve my lot although his ammunition is twice the size of mine,

Just for those who have made previous comment lately I can reveal that he introduced a team of proven Sprint youngsters from England which revell on the Darkness system and they were the ones which returned Fed positions for him not the stock which is 500-600 milers ""Inverted Commas"". Much has been learned this year and my regret was not waiting a further year and feed which was not conjusive to distance racing in my opinion and may have been a factor in the losses incurred by not having enough in the tank, I am only stating MY opinion on past methods where most birds returned from Distance racing BUT they were fed for it through experience not what the Manufacturers of feeds want you to feed boosting their profits by cheap bulk ingredients. The old saying "if it looks good it must be good" does no longer wash with me..

[peter pandy]

Having regained control of my body again and finally getting a good nights sleep instead of the shakes and loss of muscle control I do believe I am finally off the Tramadol for good.

My faith in the Human Race has been restored with the help given on repatriating one of my birds which ended up in Northern Ireland, liberated Northampton with the SNFC three months ago, Firstly Gregor McEvoy who reported him then contacted John Millar a truck driver who delivered him from Ireland to Mr Dalgliesh in Dumfries where our Dal2 "Stevie" went and picked him up then had his Daughter deliver him to me at Herriot Watt University car park. To you all THANK YOU. When I put him back into the loft he went straight to his old nest box and turfed out the incumbent who had moved into his territory, You honestly would not think he had been away for a couple of months.

[Delboy]

Stevie Dal has helped a lot of doos get from the Solway up north Peter, hes a gid lad.

[tommy bhoys]

Stevie Dal has helped a lot of doos get from the Solway up north Peter, hes a gid lad.

this is only time i will agree way you bridge bhoy these guys in the solway have done a great job in getting birds back up the road a big well done fae me and all the guys in lanarkshire whos birds where returned through your help :drinking-coffee-200:

[peter pandy]

Back in January I decided to close off the 1" gap at the back of the loft so went and purchased expanding foam filler and with it being a windy day started from the outside, Not giving much thought as to the nest boxes on the other side I continued to empty the aerosol can but could not figure out why it was not really closing some of the gaps. On entering the loft It was a mess with foam expanding everywhere including on some of the birds. Now that stuff just does NOT come off feathers and a couple could not even open their wings resulting in me having to cut feathers away to allow them movement. All is now well as they have moulted them out and although they were incapable of any extended flight the long lay off means I have a couple of 3 year olds for next year.

With a nice team of 30 July Late Breds they are starting to run when out in the morning which is something I have always encouraged and am sure its a learning curve for them, although, there are differing opinions on it. Each tae their ain EH...Oh aye,I am back on the heavier feeding again after going through my old diaries.

[Hillstreetblues48]

Back in January I decided to close off the 1" gap at the back of the loft so went and purchased expanding foam filler and with it being a windy day started from the outside, Not giving much thought as to the nest boxes on the other side I continued to empty the aerosol can but could not figure out why it was not really closing some of the gaps. On entering the loft It was a mess with foam expanding everywhere including on some of the birds. Now that stuff just does NOT come off feathers and a couple could not even open their wings resulting in me having to cut feathers away to allow them movement. All is now well as they have moulted them out and although they were incapable of any extended flight the long lay off means I have a couple of 3 year olds for next year.

With a nice team of 30 July Late Breds they are starting to run when out in the morning which is something I have always encouraged and am sure its a learning curve for them, although, there are differing opinions on it. Each tae their ain EH...Oh aye,I am back on the heavier feeding again after going through my old diaries.

what a fecking plonked lol

[peter pandy]

With the moult progressing well and the differing stages in individuals with some completely bald and others a picture makes for feather gathering on every visit with the hoover, I am sure we all have different ideas at this time of year and I give mine Naturaline and Sedochil every day either in the water or on the feed with Brewers Yeast mixed in, Linseed every day and Tea on a Sunday has them to my satisfaction with lovely feathering, Baths every other day with a couple of drops of "T" Tree Oil keeps the feathers clear of lice (tip from Tiger) and plenty fresh air keeps the dust down in the loft and out of my lungs.

[Hillstreetblues48]

With the moult progressing well and the differing stages in individuals with some completely bald and others a picture makes for feather gathering on every visit with the hoover, I am sure we all have different ideas at this time of year and I give mine Naturaline and Sedochil every day either in the water or on the feed with Brewers Yeast mixed in, Linseed every day and Tea on a Sunday has them to my satisfaction with lovely feathering, Baths every other day with a couple of drops of "T" Tree Oil keeps the feathers clear of lice (tip from Tiger) and plenty fresh air keeps the dust down in the loft and out of my lungs.

Any particular time you give them their tea Peter,do they get a doughnut with it lol

[peter pandy]

Tea is served 120 minutes before Dusk all year round.. Nae doughnuts just plenty Beans and Toast, with a bit of Cheese for afters.

[Delboy]

Peter, I think you complicate things too much. Give the doos clean feed/grit and water regularly with plenty of baths and rest and they will have a great moult. This is advice for the novices, keep it regular and simple.

[peter pandy]

Did not believe I was being complicated Del especially during the moulting season as the good fanciers give differing oil bearing feed to enhance the feather quality which ordinary feed lacks. Teas and Naturaline adds dimension regarding vitamins and minerals through their ingredients as the feathers are renewed and a heavy protein mixture ensures the bird does not deplete its reserves of Animo Acids..Birds out to-day after a three day confinement saw them away running for about an hour with the exception of the older ones who were quite happy to splash about in the bath.

[peter pandy]

Latebreds are out the loft in jig time when the door is dropped leaving the area for a good period of time while the rest are merely content to sit in the Bath then repair to the loft roof for a preen and soak up the sun while I am busy clearing the feathers from the loft. All is exactly as it should be and old Cock birds are quite content to sit in nest boxes with their Hens as I am not separating this year.

I have been reading another Post regarding, In, Line etc, Breeding and I have said before that more winners are bred from maiden yearling Hens than any other. It is the only factor and nothing to do with genes.

On the First of all months over the years I have gave my birds Flight Path over the feed and never had YBS and something came to mind so done a wee bit of research. It has been noticed that YBS is a virus and Antibiotics wont kill a virus but I run a couple of Insect Zappers and they have UltraViolet light bulbs which kill viruses as well and my pond filtration system also has a U/V light which the pond water is pumped over to dispose of Microbes in the pond water. It is only food for thought.

[bluey]

Latebreds are out the loft in jig time when the door is dropped leaving the area for a good period of time while the rest are merely content to sit in the Bath then repair to the loft roof for a preen and soak up the sun while I am busy clearing the feathers from the loft. All is exactly as it should be and old Cock birds are quite content to sit in nest boxes with their Hens as I am not separating this year.

I have been reading another Post regarding, In, Line etc, Breeding and I have said before that more winners are bred from maiden yearling Hens than any other. It is the only factor and nothing to do with genes.

On the First of all months over the years I have gave my birds Flight Path over the feed and never had YBS and something came to mind so done a wee bit of research. It has been noticed that YBS is a virus and Antibiotics wont kill a virus but I run a couple of Insect Zappers and they have UltraViolet light bulbs which kill viruses as well and my pond filtration system also has a U/V light which the pond water is pumped over to dispose of Microbes in the pond water. It is only food for thought.

 

Can you say what Flightpath is and how you think it helps ?

[peter pandy]

Sitting on my loft seat and contemplating how well the birds are looking especially some of the Blues and Chequers whose heads are turning paler than usual which is a good sign that all is well as they peck at my feet for a bit of cheddar which they have every day and Jack has his nose smacked if he tries to get there first.

Had a squirrel visit next door's garden but stopped, turned and fled when it spied my Terror Eyes Balloon which are now selling on Amazon/E'Bay for half the price I have been paying. I should add that the Balloon is put up when the birds are out and taken down when they are back in the loft so as it not to appear to be a permanent deterrant to any Bassa on patrol.

[peter pandy]

"Bluey" FlightPath replaces lost microflora in the intestine and is advertised in the BHW weekly. It must do what it says to comply with the Advertising Standards in Law. I first read about it in a Chicken Magazine and used it before it was trialed by leading pigeon fanciers since.

[bluey]

"Bluey" FlightPath replaces lost microflora in the intestine and is advertised in the BHW weekly. It must do what it says to comply with the Advertising Standards in Law. I first read about it in a Chicken Magazine and used it before it was trialed by leading pigeon fanciers since.

Not been on for a day or so, thanks for your answer