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[Taylorsloft]

IB Who took the baskets up to Aberdeen and Dundee???? and who brought them back???? It wouldn't be his friend form Bo'ness would it, YES IT WAS!!!!!!!!!

come to think about it i did think it was strange to see the driver standing watching the birds bieng marked  :X in aberdeen prob looking to see whos birds went where  :X

 

[hotrod]

 

'P*** BIRDAGE!'

 

Quality always /always/ always beats quantity mate.

[WulDon]

 

'P*** BIRDAGE!'

 

... not to mention the prize n pool money! if i wanted to win a medal i'd go to the carnival!!!

[Delboy]

IB, Ive been invited to the Laurieston presentation next week, I will have a chat with you then

[Guest redwhiteblue]

I cannot for the life of me think why IB is having a go at Delboy and his band as Delboy has done more for pigeon racing in Scotland than anyone else, he was on the national committee for a number of years and held his job as the west conveyor to the best of his ability which was bang on everything was done in a professional manner. I think the guys who used Uddingston marking station will fully agree with me here even through his charity work tha he does for pigeon racing and a children's hospice is done in a proffessional manner!! As for some wee mr nobody who does absolutely he haw for pigeons apart from moan at every opportunity he would go well with the current snfc committee and top table, all no gooders!!!!!

[jimmy white]

is it time for change at the top for snfc come the agm?

 

please stick to topic

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

 

Start at the beginning. Last year, well after the event, I was told that the bird had not been re-rubbered because ‘they could not find the bird on the transporter’. Nothing else was added and I was distinctly influenced by the way it was put to me into thinking that the bird could not be found on transporter = the bird was not on the transporter. In a thread on here a year after that conversation, I was told by Gareth Rankin that the bird could not be found because they could not find the basket on the transporter = either a wrong basket number , or a basket had been removed. Wrong again. George Briggs posted Dundee Marking Station Labels had been removed, after the loaded baskets had left Dundee. Nobody said up until now where that had happened, and if it happened at the racepoint the explanation is perfectly simple and probably already well known. North West Fed supplied baskets to Aberdeen and Dundee Marking Stations amongst others. The empty baskets normally go back to the marking station shown on the basket label. The baskets were coming back to Laurieston and Stirling clubhouses, not Dundee, not Aberdeen - that’s why they were removed.  

 

 

IB

 

You are are almost as good at doing spin as the President and PRO.

 

Fact the labels were not on the Dundee baskets while awaiting liberation at Eastbourne race and i think if you do your P.I work properly IB you will find this has already been quoted on Pigeonbasics. (And from a quote from the the conveyer from the Dundee marking station " The only way the basket labels came off at Dundee marking station is if they were physically ripped off") : :-/ >:

 

 

[Novice]

 

... not to mention the prize n pool money! if i wanted to win a medal i'd go to the carnival!!!

 

Are you unhappy to compete in a club whose reputation and integrity are untarnished?

 

 

 

 

[JADE]

AGM should be interesting. I would expect the vote for committee members to take an age because going by the comments on here there will be loads of guys willing to be nominated. Much better than the shambles last year when just about everyone in the hall was asked and hardly anyone was willing to accept. I wont hold my breath!

[jock3]

well lads who do think would be fit the jobs at the top

[Delboy]

 

 

 

delboy there is a lot or merit in what IB is saying, you and others seem to be on a crusade to "get your man" but how you have gone about it is nothing short of bullying and persecution. Integrity works both ways and is not the property of he who shouts loudest or makes the biggest noises. i am not saying what you refer to has not happened but there are procedures and guidelines which must be followed to obtain the correct outcome.

 

i can understand that you are annoyed and frustrated by the apparent lack of interest and non co-operation from the relevant officals and union but lets be honest did you really expect anything else.  the union has stumbled from one mismanaged situation to another for years and when people highlighted what was going on you and others looked the other way, its a funny old world ehh.  

 

Totally disagree with you, their has been no bully tactics, no persecution, no shouting etc and this is not a crusade to get anybody. The fact of the matter is, the likes of yourself have got an opinion on how things should be done and you did nothing yourself about the situation.This is not a go at you personally as it applies to most people who all sit on the fence and are frightened to stand up and be counted. Instead of criticising the ones that are trying to save the sport, maybe you should be helping to try and get rid of this vermin in the sport today. It is very interesting to see how most folk act , even the ones on this site , who know alot of things that are going on and yet are sh.t scared to open their mouths about it.Spineless b......., I would say.

[naedoos]

 

Are you unhappy to compete in a club whose reputation and integrity are untarnished?

 

 

 

 

Run by people that walked out on their previous club :-/

[hotrod]

walked out ?we all had to leave we were not members of SHU so therefor couldn,t be members of snfc .

[naedoos]

walked out ?we all had to leave we were not members of SHU so therefor couldn,t be members of snfc .

 

wisnae me that mentioned integrity, so you all resigned then :-/

[hotrod]

NO we were not allowed to be members read the rules .It wasn,t the snfc we had probs with it was the SHU.I was one of the management commitee who stood down,as the rule said HAD TO BE MEMBER OF SHU,sorry for shouting

[naedoos]

Read the rules hotrod, so you had to resign then as you were obviously members to be there in the first place?

[hotrod]

yes up till april that year i had paid my money till then

[naedoos]

Old rule hotrod, rule in place at the time was any member wishing to resign from the club must do so in writing before the AGM.

 

With this being a club rule then anyone that attended the AGM would be elegible for club fees for that current year.

 

[Guest IB]

and stick up for a cheat

 

Perhaps I should refresh your memory on my position : Nobody has the right to say a person has been dishonest on the strength of rumours alone. Yet rumours is exactly what the request for an official investigation was based on:-

 

21/07/07

To the president of the snfc

Hello Tom

I have sent to you this letter as a official request for the racing pigeon/s of Scott Gibson at the snfc Eastbourne race be re-rubbered

I am asking this for the reason being, to stop the speculation surrounding Scott's world class performances and to put and end to ever growing rumours and suspicion.

I believe that all great fanciers and racing pigeons should get the recognition that they deserve and in the present climate this is unfortunately not the case for Scott

If this were to be done it would instil greater confidence and uphold the integrity of Scott Gibson the management committee and also that of our great club

Yours in sport

 

You've already been told there was an investigation and you know that there were complaints on how it was handled. But as far as I know it did not provide any proof of cheating. So you are well out of order calling this person a cheat without any proof (you are not alone - its been done repeatedly on this Site). And to say I was sticking up for a cheat is nonsense.

 

[Novice]

 

wisnae me that mentioned integrity, so you all resigned then :-/

 

No I mentioned integrity and that is exactly what the club I am a member of has in abundance.

It also has a great deal of additional merits which I will detail if you like. But let's start with harmony.

I don't see a great deal of harmony in the other club based on the posts by it's members on this thread.

If I were to feel as strongly as some of the posters on this thread obviously do then I would be seeking an alternative.

 

Note----I resigned from the SNFC as a fully paid up member before the split because I was unhappy with the club management.    

 

 

[Taylorsloft]

 

Perhaps I should refresh your memory on my position : Nobody has the right to say a person has been dishonest on the strength of rumours alone. Yet rumours is exactly what the request for an official investigation was based on:-

 

21/07/07

To the president of the snfc

Hello Tom

I have sent to you this letter as a official request for the racing pigeon/s of Scott Gibson at the snfc Eastbourne race be re-rubbered

I am asking this for the reason being, to stop the speculation surrounding Scott's world class performances and to put and end to ever growing rumours and suspicion.

I believe that all great fanciers and racing pigeons should get the recognition that they deserve and in the present climate this is unfortunately not the case for Scott

If this were to be done it would instil greater confidence and uphold the integrity of Scott Gibson the management committee and also that of our great club

Yours in sport

 

You've already been told there was an investigation and you know that there were complaints on how it was handled. But as far as I know it did not provide any proof of cheating. So you are well out of order calling this person a cheat without any proof (you are not alone - its been done repeatedly on this Site). And to say I was sticking up for a cheat is nonsense.

wish i could clock in without pigeons coming home   :X

 

[hotrod]

Old rule hotrod, rule in place at the time was any member wishing to resign from the club must do so in writing before the AGM.

 

With this being a club rule then anyone that attended the AGM would be elegible for club fees for that current year.

i think your wrong mate you can go to the AGM to cear that years business then leave .BUT if i was not going to be a member of SHU for that year would the SNFC let me keep my membership ? I dont think so.We all got up and left before the new years business thats why jim o,hara put the motion up first because non shu members could not take part if the motion failled.

[hotrod]

naedoos were you even at that meeting?

[Ian McKay]

 

Perhaps I should refresh your memory on my position : Nobody has the right to say a person has been dishonest on the strength of rumours alone. Yet rumours is exactly what the request for an official investigation was based on:-

 

21/07/07

To the president of the snfc

Hello Tom

I have sent to you this letter as a official request for the racing pigeon/s of Scott Gibson at the snfc Eastbourne race be re-rubbered

I am asking this for the reason being, to stop the speculation surrounding Scott's world class performances and to put and end to ever growing rumours and suspicion.

I believe that all great fanciers and racing pigeons should get the recognition that they deserve and in the present climate this is unfortunately not the case for Scott

If this were to be done it would instil greater confidence and uphold the integrity of Scott Gibson the management committee and also that of our great club

Yours in sport

 

You've already been told there was an investigation and you know that there were complaints on how it was handled. But as far as I know it did not provide any proof of cheating. So you are well out of order calling this person a cheat without any proof (you are not alone - its been done repeatedly on this Site). And to say I was sticking up for a cheat is nonsense.

 

 

Hi IB

 

I am on the SNFC Committee and have NEVER seen this letter where did you get it from.

 

There has been NO investigation allowed by the Committee

 

Cheers

Ian

 

[jimmy white]

could members please post as per forum rule "members should post in a way that is respectfull to others"  please  as  we will lose posts and spoil thread ,, thanks