Blue Cock X Ch Hen Must Breed Blues And Chs

[Delboy]

I had a stock pair locked up in there box until the hen laid. I do this with older cocks to guarantee fertilisation of eggs, any way, the cock is blue and the hen bch and to my amazement the 2 ybs are red ch. The hens dam is a red ch but I don't know about throw backs etc being true. If I was putting these ybs into an auction folk would question their parentage because of there colour.Im bamboozled as no other cock could tread the hen.ps. the other birds in the section are either ch or blues???? My conclusion is, throw backs do happen!!

[Guest bigda]

I had a stock pair locked up in there box until the hen laid. I do this with older cocks to guarantee fertilisation of eggs, any way, the cock is blue and the hen bch and to my amazement the 2 ybs are red ch. The hens dam is a red ch but I don't know about throw backs etc being true. If I was putting these ybs into an auction folk would question their parentage because of there colour.Im bamboozled as no other cock could tread the hen.ps. the other birds in the section are either ch or blues???? My conclusion is, throw backs do happen!!

 

 

MOST LIKELY THEY WILL BE 2 COCKS ALSO

[Delboy]

not sure Danny but looks like it.

[DJWa]

I had a stock pair locked up in there box until the hen laid. I do this with older cocks to guarantee fertilisation of eggs, any way, the cock is blue and the hen bch and to my amazement the 2 ybs are red ch. The hens dam is a red ch but I don't know about throw backs etc being true. If I was putting these ybs into an auction folk would question their parentage because of there colour.Im bamboozled as no other cock could tread the hen.ps. the other birds in the section are either ch or blues???? My conclusion is, throw backs do happen!!

 

had this happen when I first started didn't have a red or mealy in my loft

and a blue cock check hen bred a mealy cock

any other birds this pair bred were either blues or checkers

[robbiedoo.]

I had a stock pair locked up in there box until the hen laid. I do this with older cocks to guarantee fertilisation of eggs, any way, the cock is blue and the hen bch and to my amazement the 2 ybs are red ch. The hens dam is a red ch but I don't know about throw backs etc being true. If I was putting these ybs into an auction folk would question their parentage because of there colour.Im bamboozled as no other cock could tread the hen.ps. the other birds in the section are either ch or blues???? My conclusion is, throw backs do happen!!

 

The same thing happened to a guy in my club and has,nt a red doo in his loft

[OLDYELLOW]

I had a stock pair locked up in there box until the hen laid. I do this with older cocks to guarantee fertilisation of eggs, any way, the cock is blue and the hen bch and to my amazement the 2 ybs are red ch. The hens dam is a red ch but I don't know about throw backs etc being true. If I was putting these ybs into an auction folk would question their parentage because of there colour.Im bamboozled as no other cock could tread the hen.ps. the other birds in the section are either ch or blues???? My conclusion is, throw backs do happen!!

Most charts are working on no throw backs and no hidden colour modifiers or recessive colours two throw backs I wouldn't complain I get yellows and silvers from my reds as throw backs

[TheHigg]

YOU WOULD BE AS WELL GIVING THEM AWAY TO SOMEONE IF YOURE NOT SURE ABOUT THEM :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:

[Wiley]

Send em down del I'll try em

[Delboy]

Send em down del I'll try em

 

I couldn't burden you with them m8, ill just persevere with them lol.

[OLDYELLOW]

I couldn't burden you with them m8, ill just persevere with them lol.

:emoticon-0137-clapping: :emoticon-0140-rofl: :emoticon-0140-rofl:

[billt]

There was a similar post from Owen only last week where he said he had a Rd youngster in the nest from a Bl. Ch. x Bl. with no reds in the section and no family history, as you say you'd feel a bit Iffy advertising them.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

I couldn't burden you with them m8, ill just persevere with them lol.

 

Derek, I'm just as local as the Higg, so I'll take them off your hands. :D

[TheHigg]

Derek, I'm just as local as the Higg, so I'll take them off your hands. :D

HAW YOU CUT IT OOT

[Guest stb-]

I had a stock pair locked up in there box until the hen laid. I do this with older cocks to guarantee fertilisation of eggs, any way, the cock is blue and the hen bch and to my amazement the 2 ybs are red ch. The hens dam is a red ch but I don't know about throw backs etc being true. If I was putting these ybs into an auction folk would question their parentage because of there colour.Im bamboozled as no other cock could tread the hen.ps. the other birds in the section are either ch or blues???? My conclusion is, throw backs do happen!!

Have a blue walkingshaw cock and a darker chq walkingshaw hen and they have either a blue and a red or a chq and a red in every nest .

The only 2 colours i have always breed the same from are 2 blues , i have always had blues every time .

 

P S the darker chq hen g sire is a red cock , when i say shes a darker chq she is not a light chq but not a true dark chq as such .

[Novice]

There is a pigeon genetics group on Face Book. It might be a worthwhile exercise to raise this subject on there.

[Guest Owen]

Reds from that mating must be hens.

[Michael J Burden]

Impossible most likely opals which on occasion look like mealy or reds

[Smithy1]

Reds from that mating must be hens.

 

Shouldnt be reds from that mating at all owen but as Delboy says it must be throw back..so why do you think they must be hens ??

[Guest Cawdy]

Shouldnt be reds from that mating at all owen but as Delboy says it must be throw back..so why do you think they must be hens ??

 

 

dont think you can garuntee that they will be hens as the locus of the alelle causing it is unknown. and am no 100% but dont think a throw back is possible as ash red is dominant. so might be another similar looking ressecive mutation or dbout it but could be a new mutation ???

 

 

Del can you see the pattern of the yb yet ?

[JohnQuinn]

I had a stock pair locked up in there box until the hen laid. I do this with older cocks to guarantee fertilisation of eggs, any way, the cock is blue and the hen bch and to my amazement the 2 ybs are red ch. The hens dam is a red ch but I don't know about throw backs etc being true. If I was putting these ybs into an auction folk would question their parentage because of there colour.Im bamboozled as no other cock could tread the hen.ps. the other birds in the section are either ch or blues???? My conclusion is, throw backs do happen!!

 

Are these 2 birds related Derek??

[Delboy]

dont think you can garuntee that they will be hens as the locus of the alelle causing it is unknown. and am no 100% but dont think a throw back is possible as ash red is dominant. so might be another similar looking ressecive mutation or dbout it but could be a new mutation ???

 

 

Del can you see the pattern of the yb yet ?

 

Cant see the pattern yet m8 but looks very light red ch or even strawberry mealy?? wont know for few days and I agree with everything you've said regarding mutation. As I said before its impossible any other way imo.

 

Are these 2 birds related Derek??

 

Not related John, cock is son of George Carteus world famous CARTIER and the hen is off SPIDER x dtr of PEGGY.

[JohnQuinn]

Was thinking that perhaps the recessive Red may have been passed to both parents through family genetics, but obviously not, so am sshtumped as well .