Barren Hen

[TheHigg]

any guys ever had any luck with a barren hen i have i won 1st club ypres 4th section snfc and ive just found another one dont know wether to be exited or dissapointed she is a well bred wee hen whats youre thoughts

[Kyleakin Lofts]

any guys ever had any luck with a barren hen i have i won 1st club ypres 4th section snfc and ive just found another one dont know wether to be exited or dissapointed she is a well bred wee hen whats youre thoughts

 

Being barren, whether caused by medical problem tumour, etc or not, is a fatal factor with regards to breeding.

Are both hens related? Were they sired by the same cock or from the same male line? You need to attempt to find out why in case you end up with a loft full of fertility problems or at the least constantly recurring fertility problems.

Usually barren hens / infertile cocks can be stimulated with dummy eggs and slipping them YB's, so you should still be able to have them racing well.

[Wiley]

I had a brilliant racing barren hen years ago, but she was good racer before she went barren. She went missing reported near enough dead, we brought her round but she never laid an egg again but she continued to race well, she was super keen on dummy's and babies though. Personally I think they've either got it or they haven't.

[William Reid]

Being barren, whether caused by medical problem tumour, etc or not, is a fatal factor with regards to breeding.

Are both hens related? Were they sired by the same cock or from the same male line? You need to attempt to find out why in case you end up with a loft full of fertility problems or at the least constantly recurring fertility problems.

Usually barren hens / infertile cocks can be stimulated with dummy eggs and slipping them YB's, so you should still be able to have them racing well.

expletive remove Andy have a it's only some banter :emoticon-0140-rofl:

[Kyleakin Lofts]

expletive remove Andy have a it's only some banter :emoticon-0140-rofl:

 

:emoticon-0140-rofl:

[TheHigg]

Being barren, whether caused by medical problem tumour, etc or not, is a fatal factor with regards to breeding.

Are both hens related? Were they sired by the same cock or from the same male line? You need to attempt to find out why in case you end up with a loft full of fertility problems or at the least constantly recurring fertility problems.

Usually barren hens / infertile cocks can be stimulated with dummy eggs and slipping them YB's, so you should still be able to have them racing well.

not related mate maybee she will lay yet but everything round about her has been down 2 or 3 days so she might go yet however if she dosent i can tinker around with her later in the season

[William Reid]

not related mate maybee she will lay yet but everything round about her has been down 2 or 3 days so she might go yet however if she dosent i can tinker around with her later in the season

expletive remove Joe think I will have to phone the police ya perv. :emoticon-0136-giggle:

[TheHigg]

expletive remove Joe think I will have to phone the police ya perv. :emoticon-0136-giggle:

KIKKIN MY DOOR IN AS WE SPEEK BILLY

[William Reid]

KIKKIN MY DOOR IN AS WE SPEEK BILLY

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[frankdooman]

A baren hen can be a god send both racing and breeding I've scored with a few and have two in the loft right now none of them race but what a star in the stock loft

[Kyleakin Lofts]

A baren hen can be a god send both racing and breeding I've scored with a few and have two in the loft right now none of them race but what a star in the stock loft

 

Confused.com?????

[frankdooman]

Confused.com?????

Think about it Andy

[MIK]

Confused.com?????

 

best feeder he ever had

[walterboswell59]

plenty time for the hen to lay yet joe ive had hens not lay for weeks after the rest have went down if she is barren its a loss in the breeding but you gain with them racing as you can set them up perfect and there keen as mustered you can kid them with dummies live eggs and a younster to which they race great but as i say she could lay yet some hens are just slower than others to lay m8

 

Confused.com?????

great feeders

[OLDYELLOW]

Last barren hen I had laid first year loaned it out didn't lay and I had moved tried settling it to race and lost it saw it a few times but never came back in , would of gone back to old loft

[walterboswell59]

had one 20 years ago flew two 500 mile races in 7 days scored in one and missed the 2nd result by 4 minutes both 2 day hard races sitting 38 days on eggs lost her the next year in a south east wind from 128 miles down the west line i was sick lots of birds landed in ireland from that race with heavy losses in the fed

[lanarkshire lad]

Being barren, whether caused by medical problem tumour, etc or not, is a fatal factor with regards to breeding.

Are both hens related? Were they sired by the same cock or from the same male line? You need to attempt to find out why in case you end up with a loft full of fertility problems or at the least constantly recurring fertility problems.

Usually barren hens / infertile cocks can be stimulated with dummy eggs and slipping them YB's, so you should still be able to have them racing well.

What book did you get that from?

[dal2]

Think I would wait to the summer before declaring the hen barren

[Kyleakin Lofts]

What book did you get that from?

 

Bred and exhibited Boxer dogs for over 20 years. Principle is the same. Any defects preventing reproduction must be sourced and eradicated from the breeding or it will continually resurface and could reach the point of no return.

In this case, the hen is just late, so there is no proof she is barren yet.

[lanarkshire lad]

Bred and exhibited Boxer dogs for over 20 years. Principle is the same. Any defects preventing reproduction must be sourced and eradicated from the breeding or it will continually resurface and could reach the point of no return.

In this case, the hen is just late, so there is no proof she is barren yet.

In this case the pigeon eradicates the problem itself it cant reproduce if it is barren.

[walterboswell59]

In this case the pigeon eradicates the problem itself it cant reproduce if it is barren.

bang on and ive never known a pair of birds that have produced more than one barren hen in there life time but i suppose it could happen

[frankdooman]

Yes give a barren hen any situation eggs y/birds big y bds lets u set her up for any race I've even stuck a 18 day old y bd in watch her try and cover it in the stock loft lets u move anything at any time and are usually the best feeders u can get

[Kyleakin Lofts]

In this case the pigeon eradicates the problem itself it cant reproduce if it is barren.

 

No matter the specie, if it is barren or sterile, it eradicates its own problem.

Scenario:

Keep going the way you are with the occasional barren / sterile bird. Eventually score 1st Open National Gold Cup or Medal. Fill your loft with progeny from the winning bird and line breed to him. Suddenly discover he was a carrier of the problem and everything you have in the loft is producing barren / sterile birds.

 

I accept fully that very few will ever own a bird good enough to receive this sort of treatment and that very few are skilled enough to line breed to it, however the situation could arise. That is the reason for noting the breeding of any bird which is barren or sterile. If a recurring pattern is found, then that line should be no longer bred from. I am not talking about remote incidents or knee-jerk reactions, I am talking about careful considered reaction to a problem within a line once sufficient evidence has been collected.

I am also very aware that very few line breed nowadays, but in the past most successful fanciers had their own family of birds cultivated over a lengthy period of time.

[lanarkshire lad]

No matter the specie, if it is barren or sterile, it eradicates its own problem.

Scenario:

Keep going the way you are with the occasional barren / sterile bird. Eventually score 1st Open National Gold Cup or Medal. Fill your loft with progeny from the winning bird and line breed to him. Suddenly discover he was a carrier of the problem and everything you have in the loft is producing barren / sterile birds.

 

I accept fully that very few will ever own a bird good enough to receive this sort of treatment and that very few are skilled enough to line breed to it, however the situation could arise. That is the reason for noting the breeding of any bird which is barren or sterile. If a recurring pattern is found, then that line should be no longer bred from. I am not talking about remote incidents or knee-jerk reactions, I am talking about careful considered reaction to a problem within a line once sufficient evidence has been collected.

I am also very aware that very few line breed nowadays, but in the past most successful fanciers had their own family of birds cultivated over a lengthy period of time.

Could you give your interpretation of line breeding and of inbreeding as you seem to be well clued up on these matters.

[harky]

Higgy have you made sure its a hen and no A pair awe benders yiv got the gather.lol