Wiley Posted December 30, 2013 Report Posted December 30, 2013 I am a big believer in barley, especially with an experiment I done with the moult, this season I'm very impressed with the grain, but I must say I've always liked the grain.
rigglad Posted December 30, 2013 Report Posted December 30, 2013 Do you put a percentage in your racing mixture
just ask me Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 i know Meirlaen Etienne does not like barley he linked with pipa the article may come from him
geordie1234 Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 Personally I only use in aid off stripping off the excess fat before breeding. I can understand the guys that use it to help knowing when they have been fed enough. Have also read about widowhood guys using it too break the cocks down at the start off the week again each to there own.. In no way do I favour giving it to youngsters to help them fly better. Imo if you have to give them barley to fly or exercise better then something is not right.
jakie Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 away oot to the loft for a ham shank owen
sammy Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Posted January 1, 2014 away oot to the loft for a ham shank owen :emoticon-0140-rofl: :emoticon-0140-rofl: :emoticon-0140-rofl:
Guest stb- Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 away oot to the loft for a ham shank owenhope its no ham shank and barley broth .
yeboah Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 Fao OwenHaving over the last few days thought about your reply regarding me loosing the plot somewhere along the line regarding Barley I feel I must reply for the sake of the new starterI have raced pigeons since 1972 with more than my share of success Also stated in previous posts were the words of the legendary Eddie Newcombe who in his words would not touch Barley with a barge pole I as a very young fancier competed in the very difficult Rennes gold cup race of 1979 when only 32 pigeons were clocked on the night from a convoy of 7500The race winner that night was Mr Eddie Newcombe One of only 4 fanciers to have won the gold cup 2 timesI was 2nd section beaten by Mr Jack Wylie another who won the gold cup twice My cousin Ben Scott of Brydekirk was 3rd Section He was the first loft in Scotland to Win 3 Gold Awards from 500+ miles against an average in those days of 7500 pigeons Ben timed 3 that night I timed 2 The legend Jock Allen Won the West Section that NightSo the Company I flew with were very Special IndeedEddie Newcombe , Ben Scott and Myself Never EVER Fed Barley So in Future if you wish to educate New Fanciers on the wonders of Barley Please do so with the Knowledge that others have and still do without its Use have very Continued Success Continued Success and Good Wishes for 2014 Yours in Sport Michael Currie
Guest stb- Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 Fao OwenHaving over the last few days thought about your reply regarding me loosing the plot somewhere along the line regarding Barley I feel I must reply for the sake of the new starterI have raced pigeons since 1972 with more than my share of success Also stated in previous posts were the words of the legendary Eddie Newcombe who in his words would not touch Barley with a barge pole I as a very young fancier competed in the very difficult Rennes gold cup race of 1979 when only 32 pigeons were clocked on the night from a convoy of 7500The race winner that night was Mr Eddie Newcombe One of only 4 fanciers to have won the gold cup 2 timesI was 2nd section beaten by Mr Jack Wylie another who won the gold cup twice My cousin Ben Scott of Brydekirk was 3rd Section He was the first loft in Scotland to Win 3 Gold Awards from 500+ miles against an average in those days of 7500 pigeons Ben timed 3 that night I timed 2 The legend Jock Allen Won the West Section that NightSo the Company I flew with were very Special IndeedEddie Newcombe , Ben Scott and Myself Never EVER Fed Barley So in Future if you wish to educate New Fanciers on the wonders of Barley Please do so with the Knowledge that others have and still do without its Use have very Continued Success Continued Success and Good Wishes for 2014 Yours in Sport Michael CurrieI think the answer here mick is folk win with and without using barley many road lead to .Hope you too have a good 2k14 :emoticon-0167-beer:
sammy Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Posted January 1, 2014 Fao OwenHaving over the last few days thought about your reply regarding me loosing the plot somewhere along the line regarding Barley I feel I must reply for the sake of the new starterI have raced pigeons since 1972 with more than my share of success Also stated in previous posts were the words of the legendary Eddie Newcombe who in his words would not touch Barley with a barge pole I as a very young fancier competed in the very difficult Rennes gold cup race of 1979 when only 32 pigeons were clocked on the night from a convoy of 7500The race winner that night was Mr Eddie Newcombe One of only 4 fanciers to have won the gold cup 2 timesI was 2nd section beaten by Mr Jack Wylie another who won the gold cup twice My cousin Ben Scott of Brydekirk was 3rd Section He was the first loft in Scotland to Win 3 Gold Awards from 500+ miles against an average in those days of 7500 pigeons Ben timed 3 that night I timed 2 The legend Jock Allen Won the West Section that NightSo the Company I flew with were very Special IndeedEddie Newcombe , Ben Scott and Myself Never EVER Fed Barley So in Future if you wish to educate New Fanciers on the wonders of Barley Please do so with the Knowledge that others have and still do without its Use have very Continued Success Continued Success and Good Wishes for 2014 Yours in Sport Michael Currie :emoticon-0137-clapping: :emoticon-0137-clapping:
andy Burgess Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 I have been married 35 years Andy and I can honestly say the wife never sits something in front of me at tea time that I don't like Why because I would not eat ItMy pigeons have never liked Barley so simples they don't get it Everyone to their own my Friendthanks Mick ,I am still learning , "every day"
eastcoaster Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 Barley is and always has been a winter feed or added as a guide for keeping the birds weight down , my natural birds are on open hole and are fed 80/20 barley and they fly great and are in great order but as long as it does them no harm I will stick with it, another thread says beans are bad for them so lets all feed what we think is best .jmo.
Guest stb- Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 Barley is and always has been a winter feed or added as a guide for keeping the birds weight down , my natural birds are on open hole and are fed 80/20 barley and they fly great and are in great order but as long as it does them no harm I will stick with it, another thread says beans are bad for them so lets all feed what we think is best .jmo.i must be in dire straights as beans and barley makes up 60% of my feed during breeding and racing :o
Guest strapper Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 if we all didnt eat what was susposed to do us no good then we,d die of starvation barley is hugely used in feeding pigeons all over,i do know that its not their favourite..but i leave it till they eat it..and if they are hungry they will
Guest Owen Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 yeboahI have no doubt that you and others have flown well without feeding barley. We have had people in this area who say they fly exclusively on beans and some of them have done a lot of winning. This is another feed that I would be very careful with. In fact I would want to be careful with any grain with brown skin because of the Tanin content. As you can see from what I have consistently written I think that barley has a place in the feeding of racing pigeons and I use it regularly myself. To me it is not just the act of feeding barley that matters because it is important to make sure that the quality of the grain is up to a good standard. I have seen a lot of terrible barley which would definitely ruin the pigeons if it was fed to them in any quantity.My view is not founded on the idea of feeding barley but feeding a properly balanced diet to the pigeons as and when they need it. If as you seem to believe there is something wrong with feeding quality barley to pigeons it would seem that pigeons are the only livestock not able to benefit from eating it. One thing I have noticed in recent years is that those who feed the old fashioned way have fallen behind those who have fed a more varied diet.
tiger Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 yeboahI have no doubt that you and others have flown well without feeding barley. We have had people in this area who say they fly exclusively on beans and some of them have done a lot of winning. This is another feed that I would be very careful with. In fact I would want to be careful with any grain with brown skin because of the Tanin content. As you can see from what I have consistently written I think that barley has a place in the feeding of racing pigeons and I use it regularly myself. To me it is not just the act of feeding barley that matters because it is important to make sure that the quality of the grain is up to a good standard. I have seen a lot of terrible barley which would definitely ruin the pigeons if it was fed to them in any quantity.My view is not founded on the idea of feeding barley but feeding a properly balanced diet to the pigeons as and when they need it. If as you seem to believe there is something wrong with feeding quality barley to pigeons it would seem that pigeons are the only livestock not able to benefit from eating it. One thing I have noticed in recent years is that those who feed the old fashioned way have fallen behind those who have fed a more varied diet.owen as for the old fashioned way I feed lots of beans in my mixture and they fly well on it, last year I think I was 5 x 2nd fed with old birds winning old bird average in fed for the 5th time in 6 years ,as for falling behind I don't thinkso from 60mls , 2 . 500 mls
Guest stb- Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 owen as for the old fashioned way I feed lots of beans in my mixture and they fly well on it, last year I think I was 5 x 2nd fed with old birds winning old bird average in fed for the 5th time in 6 years ,as for falling behind I don't thinkso from 60mls - 2500 mls WAS THAT A DREAM RACE JOHN .
tiger Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 WAS THAT A DREAM RACE JOHN .missed the full stop mate , sorted
walterboswell59 Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 i still think it does not matter what you feed them good pigeons and a good fancier that knows how to keep them healthy and fit will win on any kind of good clean dry grain and only change it if your not winning if it works for you stick with it if not try something else imo no point in arguing about it because everyone is right no one can prove one kind of feed is better than another because there is allways someone using something completly different and winning on it
Wiley Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 i still think it does not matter what you feed them good pigeons and a good fancier that knows how to keep them healthy and fit will win on any kind of good clean dry grain and only change it if your not winning if it works for you stick with it if not try something else imo no point in arguing about it because everyone is right no one can prove one kind of feed is better than another because there is allways someone using something completly different and winning on it Nicely put Walter
hotrod Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 Sat at the Lanarkshire social circle moot a few years ago Chris Gordon was on. The panel and unless I mist it he said he fed 100% barley. Almost all the year even during the race season and only gave them a mix for a few days or maybe a week before a big race , his record is there for all to see. I have fed barley during the winter months for years now and the birds are in first class condition , I feed around 80% barley. About 15%. Moulting mix -and a handful of red band thrown in till they finish the flights off then all birds get 100% barley till first week in February ,then the stock pigeons go onto a mix and barley till they lay !the racers stay on 100% barley till start of April . Great for when they aren't doing anything .
budgie Posted January 3, 2014 Report Posted January 3, 2014 Barley is for Cattle and Beans are only good on toast.
Guest langley lad Posted January 9, 2014 Report Posted January 9, 2014 I am surprised as a novice barley is used for pigeon feed, only the pigs got barley on my local farm as they was going to slaughter liver damage the reason, the barley mow factor beer whiskey can damage your health.
eagle79 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 I always thought barley was used as a measuring stick to the right amount of food to feed your birds ie ten birds 9 portions of good mix 1 part barley if they leave a bit barly they have had enough if they leave good mix your feeding to much must eat barly at next meal before you give them adjusted next meal measures hope this makes sense and you could play marbles with my birds droppings of course fresh water minerals and grit garlic water 1 day a week
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