Feeding Barley

[shasha]

I dont aswell just mix a wee bit with my food.

 

I dont aswell just mix a wee bit with my food.

but i stick with pigeon food mainly .

[just ask me]

his argument does not stand up as in we all know barley is not for feeding bredders on young ones or for growing ones or for racing but as a winter feed trying to keep the weight down on racers and bredders that are locked in its a great seed even as light seed after ybs it does have its uses

 

same as if you were trying to knock weight off birds you would not give them other seeds thats in the write up

[shasha]

as i sad i would rather stick to pigeon food.

[Guest Owen]

There are plenty of people who have read something somewhere and then think they are experts. I feed a lot of barley because I have used it an know first hand what it does and doesn't do for the pigeons. I have experimented with a lot of different food stuffs and have drawn my own conclusions about most of it.

In regard to diseases. I have a microscope and I have examined pigeons in all sorts of situations and I have again drawn my own conclusions.

The problem is that people will tend to believe what they see in print and want to blindly follow what they have read which to me is another one of those short cuts that lead to frustration.

Food stuffs fall into the same category as lofts and training. You have to see the situation from a pigeon's view point if you want to understand what you need to do. If barley gets your birds flying better and reduces their weight and you can see the results you can draw your own conclusions. You don't need the advice of some idiot who is repeating something he was told down the Pub.

[William Reid]

There are plenty of people who have read something somewhere and then think they are experts. I feed a lot of barley because I have used it an know first hand what it does and doesn't do for the pigeons. I have experimented with a lot of different food stuffs and have drawn my own conclusions about most of it.

In regard to diseases. I have a microscope and I have examined pigeons in all sorts of situations and I have again drawn my own conclusions.

The problem is that people will tend to believe what they see in print and want to blindly follow what they have read which to me is another one of those short cuts that lead to frustration.

Food stuffs fall into the same category as lofts and training. You have to see the situation from a pigeon's view point if you want to understand what you need to do. If barley gets your birds flying better and reduces their weight and you can see the results you can draw your own conclusions. You don't need the advice of some idiot who is repeating something he was told down the Pub.

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[Guest stb-]

There are plenty of people who have read something somewhere and then think they are experts. I feed a lot of barley because I have used it an know first hand what it does and doesn't do for the pigeons. I have experimented with a lot of different food stuffs and have drawn my own conclusions about most of it.

In regard to diseases. I have a microscope and I have examined pigeons in all sorts of situations and I have again drawn my own conclusions.

The problem is that people will tend to believe what they see in print and want to blindly follow what they have read which to me is another one of those short cuts that lead to frustration.

Food stuffs fall into the same category as lofts and training. You have to see the situation from a pigeon's view point if you want to understand what you need to do. If barley gets your birds flying better and reduces their weight and you can see the results you can draw your own conclusions. You don't need the advice of some idiot who is repeating something he was told down the Pub.

good post Owen .

[shasha]

if its me ur gettin at thats fine am in the house lol.truth is i dont really give a haha.i just feed my bird with what i like .it wasint me that put the post UP.

[Guest stb-]

if its me ur gettin at thats fine am in the house lol.truth is i dont really give a haha.i just feed my bird with what i like .it wasint me that put the post UP.

each to there own m8 .

[peter pandy]

If its me your getting at Owen then let me tell you IF Eddy Newcombe would not touch Barley with a barge pole and he is still the best fancier I have ever known then that recommendation is good enough for me and I am only imparting information that I would believe to be correct. When you have been as successful in the pigeon sport then you can denigrate others and what they genuinely believe.

P.S. Have not been in a pub for many years..

[William Reid]

THE GOLDEN GRAIN.

[Guest TAMMY_1]

Its a pity their have been no comments regarding barley from any farmer fanciers on Basics as perhaps they could tell us why they grow the stuff !, Anyway not being one who is known for giving opinions may I inform you of my observations and knowledge regarding the three year agricultural turn over of cultivation of a field of soil which was 2 years of differing cereals and 1 year fallow until it was discovered that the fallow year could produce Barley as it took no nutriments out the soil and could be used for cheap winter bulk feed of livestock. Pigs being the foremost that were not for the butcher but breeding sows as it kept the fat off them so they could deliver piglets hence the saying greedy as a pig due to them eating any old sh**.

 

would hazard a guess in saying they grow it to sell

[alex young]

This is a very interesting thread,whether you do or don't use barley or any of the other grains mentioned.It's each to their own but it does get people expressing their views on the way they prefer to feed certain foods which makes it good reading.

[walterboswell59]

think one of the things ive learned over the years is up to 300 miles good healthy fit pigeons will win on any clean dry grain or feed ive known guys to fly great on 100 percent barley tic beans maze rice wheat peas even bread the great eddie newcombe fed chocolate covered pea nuts which started the peanut fad one of the best years i had myself i was feeding 50 percent wheat 50 percent chicken pellets why because i got a load of it for nothing we only think we know what a pigeon needs the truth is much more simple imo

[walterboswell59]

would hazard a guess in saying they grow it to sell

bang on tam and most farmers dont know or care whats in the grain they grow only on how much they are getting paid for it m8

[andy Burgess]

would be interested to see who feeds "barley" & who doesn't ,and how the "results" compare ??

 

p.s. I think I know the answer already

[Kyleakin Lofts]

would be interested to see who feeds "barley" & who doesn't ,and how the "results" compare ??

 

p.s. I think I know the answer already

 

I have fed it and I have not fed it. Either way it made no difference to my results. To qualify that, I am a complete beginner, nowhere near the flight path and probably pretty crap as a fancier.

[Guest Owen]

I am not getting at anyone and I don't know anything about Eddie Newcombe except that he was a great fancier. I have known a lot of very good fanciers but I will always make my own mind up when it comes to handling my pigeons. Times have changed and it does not follow that the people who used to win races could do it these days using the methods they used in the past. The best people would undoubtedly use the benefit of new information and technology to their advantage just as the best modern people do today. I have no doubt that things will change in the future as we find out more about pigeons and how to improve their results.

In regard to attending the pub, when I first started to get interested in pigeons I used to like to sit in a pub and listen to the chat. That was until I realised that most of the talk was just idle gossip and amounted to hot air. I was very fortunate because I got to know Taffy Bowen and although he did not tell me much in regard to secrets he did reveal the rubbish that is believed by many pigeon fanciers. Rubbish that holds them back while others just concentrate on facts and progress because of it. So rather than quote Eddie Newcombe as if he was the gospel I would be much more impressed if you were talking from first hand experience. I have. Just to make a point, I couldn't care less if you feed barley or baked beans but I think it is wrong to mislead new people to the sport because they need help to get going rather than being held back by information that is just not right.

[yeboah]

would be interested to see who feeds "barley" & who doesn't ,and how the "results" compare ??

 

p.s. I think I know the answer already

I have been married 35 years Andy and I can honestly say the wife never sits something in front of me at tea time that I don't like Why because I would not eat It

My pigeons have never liked Barley so simples they don't get it

Everyone to their own my Friend

[peter pandy]

I am not getting at anyone and I don't know anything about Eddie Newcombe except that he was a great fancier. I have known a lot of very good fanciers but I will always make my own mind up when it comes to handling my pigeons. Times have changed and it does not follow that the people who used to win races could do it these days using the methods they used in the past. The best people would undoubtedly use the benefit of new information and technology to their advantage just as the best modern people do today. I have no doubt that things will change in the future as we find out more about pigeons and how to improve their results.

In regard to attending the pub, when I first started to get interested in pigeons I used to like to sit in a pub and listen to the chat. That was until I realised that most of the talk was just idle gossip and amounted to hot air. I was very fortunate because I got to know Taffy Bowen and although he did not tell me much in regard to secrets he did reveal the rubbish that is believed by many pigeon fanciers. Rubbish that holds them back while others just concentrate on facts and progress because of it. So rather than quote Eddie Newcombe as if he was the gospel I would be much more impressed if you were talking from first hand experience. I have. Just to make a point, I couldn't care less if you feed barley or baked beans but I think it is wrong to mislead new people to the sport because they need help to get going rather than being held back by information that is just not right.

 

Agree wholeheartedly Owen especially the final sentence..

[Guest Owen]

yeboa

I think you may have missed the plot somewhere along the line. People are not animals and I think it is a waste of time trying to compare one with the other. If you want to use a human example perhaps we would be better if we tried to compare like with like. Neither animal or human athletes have the luxury of being able to eat what they fancy. If your wife were to feed you as an athlete she would have to change the diet to one that would suite you as an athlete. Pigeons must be fed a diet to suite them as athletes and not as lounge potatoes. I recently had a conversation with a friend's daughter who refused to reduce the amount of feed she gave the birds and would not use barley because they didn't like it. She thought it cruel to give them less food and force them to eat something they did not like. I told her that what she was doing was cruel and caused the birds to suffer in the races because they just could not get home in good time. In addition they lost a awful lot of birds each year. I explained that many of their lost birds were probably killed on the roads and by cats and hawks and all due to the kindness she foisted on to them.

I can understand you having a policy of not feeding barley or anything else but to avoid a feed because they don't like it is sheer nonsense and a bad example to new people to the sport who might read what you have written.

[dwh]

Barley dismissed on the continent?

Do they not use depuritive?

[walterboswell59]

Barley dismissed on the continent?

Do they not use depuritive?

correct and its 90 percent barley with a handful of seed through it but call it depuritive and you can get double the price for it another rip off

[PIGEONPACKMAN]

I wish somebody introduced me to barley sooner , its a fanatstic grain for two reasons the birds dont like it, it gets them flying , to a novice like me l really struggled getting the feed right so now l use it in conjunction with another mix ,pigeons are like kids dont know they will eat the nicer grains and leave the others if overfeed, l give them just enough and top the rest up with barley noticed a big difference as soon as l used it, now l can judge ifthey have had enough by whatching for them to leeve barley, go to the drinker, throw grain out of the feeder looking for nicer grains .the best thing is my pigeons always get enough feed for the work they are doing.

 

I wish somebody introduced me to barley sooner , its a fanatstic grain for two reasons the birds dont like it, it gets them flying , to a novice like me l really struggled getting the feed right so now l use it in conjunction with another mix ,pigeons are like kids they will eat the nicer grains and leave the others if overfeed, l give them just enough and top the rest up with barley noticed a big difference as soon as l used it, now l can judge ifthey have had enough by whatching for them to leeve barley, go to the drinker, throw grain out of the feeder looking for nicer grains .the best thing is my pigeons always get enough feed for the work they are doing.

[yeboah]

yeboa

I think you may have missed the plot somewhere along the line. People are not animals and I think it is a waste of time trying to compare one with the other. If you want to use a human example perhaps we would be better if we tried to compare like with like. Neither animal or human athletes have the luxury of being able to eat what they fancy. If your wife were to feed you as an athlete she would have to change the diet to one that would suite you as an athlete. Pigeons must be fed a diet to suite them as athletes and not as lounge potatoes. I recently had a conversation with a friend's daughter who refused to reduce the amount of feed she gave the birds and would not use barley because they didn't like it. She thought it cruel to give them less food and force them to eat something they did not like. I told her that what she was doing was cruel and caused the birds to suffer in the races because they just could not get home in good time. In addition they lost a awful lot of birds each year. I explained that many of their lost birds were probably killed on the roads and by cats and hawks and all due to the kindness she foisted on to them.

I can understand you having a policy of not feeding barley or anything else but to avoid a feed because they don't like it is sheer nonsense and a bad example to new people to the sport who might read what you have written.

Each to their own Owen

And by the way I am an Athlete

[shasha]

bang on tam and most farmers dont know or care whats in the grain they grow only on how much they are getting paid for it m8

thats true