Centralised Meeting Point Snfc

[Henrik]

That is inaccurate, as is your statement that it was presented as a "hall" at the meeting where it was agreed to. I was at the meeting when it was touted as a marking station. It was clearly stated it was a greenhouse and that the "fancy pigeon" fanciers used it for their shows. Some of the SNFC officials went along to have a look as to its suitability and obviously thought it was a good idea because it was adopted as one. Davy Elliott WASN'T one of the men who went to inspect it either. Facts.

Obviously you have a different recollection of the events of the meeting than I do then John, but I,ll stick to mine.

[Guest stb-]

Obviously you have a different recollection of the events of the meeting than I do then John, but I,ll stick to mine.

maby you thought they said a greenhut bobby

[peter pandy]

No matter where the meeting was, not every member would be able to attend, and every member is entitled to vote. Time that reliance was put on motions submitted by a certain date, and voting on the Agenda items, and postal voting brought in and counted at AGM.

 

Sorry Ian, SHU standing orders number 4 does not allow postal voting.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Can see why some don't like it being Airdrie year after year, but truth of the matter is that's as central as your going to get. I have attended agms of the national when they have struggled to meet the quorum required for the meeting to carry on, now imagine what would happen if it's moved to Dundee / Perth.

Airdrie is within a 1 hour drive of 90% of the members of Scotland. Yes you have to feel for the guys up north, but very little can be done about this as getting bums on seats is more of a priority.

[Guest stb-]

Sorry Ian, SHU standing orders number 4 does not allow postal voting.

Peter is all the ones shouting for postal voting got off there erses and put in a proposal for postal vote and went to the next agm im sure there would be postal voting the following year as theres a lot wanting it .

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Peter is all the ones shouting for postal voting got off there erses and put in a proposal for postal vote and went to the next agm im sure there would be postal voting the following year as theres a lot wanting it .

If postal was passed then the national would required to be restructured, some very important items are taken part at the agm, so including postal ballot will struggle to get people to attend the most important meeting of the year.

[peter pandy]

Peter is all the ones shouting for postal voting got off there erses and put in a proposal for postal vote and went to the next agm im sure there would be postal voting the following year as theres a lot wanting it .

Sorry once again, You can not infringe SHU rules SO you would have to change the SHU CONSTITUTION first and I cannot see that happening.

[Guest IB]

Sorry Ian, SHU standing orders number 4 does not allow postal voting.

 

My copy of SHU Rules & Constitution is dated 2012 and Standing Orders for Meetings (4) reads:-

 

"The declaration of the Chairman that a resolution has or has not been carried shall, unless a poll is demanded, be conclusive, but if a poll or any question is demanded, it shall be taken by ballot or by show of hands as the meeting shall decide. No minority vote can win at meetings within the Union."

 

There is nothing there which says that postal voting is not allowed. In fact it specifically mentions poll and ballot. Also the arrangements outlined in (4) are not set in stone (6) reads:

 

"Any of the foregoing standing orders may be suspended by two thirds of votes cast by members present and voting."

 

So if the members decide they want postal voting, they can have it.

[peter pandy]

I am not going to play the word game however Poll = A counting of votes. Ballot = Secret voting. My understanding is by those present.

The downside of any such move would cost the organisation a pretty penny in postal costs and Gareth pointed out that their have been occasions when the SNFC struggled to get a quorum, postal voting would encourage most to stay at home. IMO.

[hotrod]

My copy of SHU Rules & Constitution is dated 2012 and Standing Orders for Meetings (4) reads:-

 

"The declaration of the Chairman that a resolution has or has not been carried shall, unless a poll is demanded, be conclusive, but if a poll or any question is demanded, it shall be taken by ballot or by show of hands as the meeting shall decide. No minority vote can win at meetings within the Union."

 

There is nothing there which says that postal voting is not allowed. In fact it specifically mentions poll and ballot. Also the arrangements outlined in (4) are not set in stone (6) reads:

 

"Any of the foregoing standing orders may be suspended by two thirds of votes cast by members present and voting."

 

So if the members decide they want postal voting, they can have it.

 

 

That doesn't read that way to me , members present and voting ? That to me says you have to be at meeting to vote .

[Guest stb-]

If postal was passed then the national would required to be restructured, some very important items are taken part at the agm, so including postal ballot will struggle to get people to attend the most important meeting of the year.

It dosent bother me one way or other but a lot seem to want it rather than travel , as ive said before, if theres somthing important that i either agree or disagree with i would make a point to attend even if it was aberdeen or gretna

[Guest stb-]

I am not going to play the word game however Poll = A counting of votes. Ballot = Secret voting. My understanding is by those present.

The downside of any such move would cost the organisation a pretty penny in postal costs and Gareth pointed out that their have been occasions when the SNFC struggled to get a quorum, postal voting would encourage most to stay at home. IMO.

poll means to record an opinion or to vote means nothing about counting

 

a poll can be by paper or by hand count :emoticon-0167-beer:

[dal2]

That doesn't read that way to me , members present and voting ? That to me says you have to be at meeting to vote .

The meeting shall decide are the key words for me. No at the meeting then not deciding anything. Postal votes could be workable, the org will have a franking machine and to be quite honest' a pretty penny' should be affordable for the org? Security would have to be looked at as well but any bar code scanner would sort that out.

 

There are a couple of threads on here where negative comments really get me down. How can we move on? I do not have time to go to meetings but do like to keep abrest of the information.

 

I have always thought that it might be an idea to get a consensus of the membership on important issues like race points etc, and the only way is postal votes? Even if the ballot was only used as a guide then decided on by a discussion at the meeting?

[geordie1234]

This sport is doomed lol Doomen couldny agree what day of the week it is

[Guest stb-]

The meeting shall decide are the key words for me. No at the meeting then not deciding anything. Postal votes could be workable, the org will have a franking machine and to be quite honest' a pretty penny' should be affordable for the org? Security would have to be looked at as well but any bar code scanner would sort that out.

 

There are a couple of threads on here where negative comments really get me down. How can we move on? I do not have time to go to meetings but do like to keep abrest of the information.

 

I have always thought that it might be an idea to get a consensus of the membership on important issues like race points etc, and the only way is postal votes? Even if the ballot was only used as a guide then decided on by a discussion at the meeting?

the only thing way postal ballots is MUGABE binned lots of them :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:

 

This sport is doomed lol Doomen couldny agree what day of the week it is

is it a weekday or the weekend geordie :emoticon-0140-rofl: :emoticon-0140-rofl:

[DJWa]

The meeting shall decide are the key words for me. No at the meeting then not deciding anything. Postal votes could be workable, the org will have a franking machine and to be quite honest' a pretty penny' should be affordable for the org? Security would have to be looked at as well but any bar code scanner would sort that out.

 

There are a couple of threads on here where negative comments really get me down. How can we move on? I do not have time to go to meetings but do like to keep abrest of the information.

 

I have always thought that it might be an idea to get a consensus of the membership on important issues like race points etc, and the only way is postal votes? Even if the ballot was only used as a guide then decided on by a discussion at the meeting?

easy sorted steven

when the agm paperwork including proposals gets posted out ussue each member with a diff code number

which they can log onto the snfc website and register their vote or votes

otherwise they can post it in at their own expence (the price of a stamp)

 

this way the snfc doesn't incur any extra costs

[Kyleakin Lofts]

This sport is doomed lol Doomen couldny agree what day of the week it is

 

That's easy, I'm sure everyone will agree today is someday, oneday, birthday, Monday, weekday.

[mazzie]

What about two meeting points ie airdrie and Aberdeen etc with modern tech we could easily set up a webcam and broadcast meeting to Aberdeen or Dundee anywhere realy they can orgainse muti million pound deals this way so why couldn't we organise a race program with it