JOHNSEE Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 Hi,can anyone help,I have in the last three days taken delivery of a new bird a three year old hen,the minute you open the loft door you can here her grunt,not only that but she takes off from wall to wall if I go into the section she is in,many years ago when in partnership with my father he would not entertain such a bird in our loft,whats best to do....? I paid quite a bit for her but she is upsetting the whole loft. If bred from are young birds likley to be the same...any help outhere....?
andy Burgess Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 try and tame her , handle her ,feed her by hand ,talk to her , and some patience .and good luck .
Guest homestead Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 try and tame her , handle her ,feed her by hand ,talk to her , and some patience .and good luck .i tried that with the wife she still grunted , i had to get rid in the end
clockman Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 Hi,can anyone help,I have in the last three days taken delivery of a new bird a three year old hen,the minute you open the loft door you can here her grunt,not only that but she takes off from wall to wall if I go into the section she is in,many years ago when in partnership with my father he would not entertain such a bird in our loft,whats best to do....? I paid quite a bit for her but she is upsetting the whole loft. If bred from are young birds likley to be the same...any help outhere....? Send her back and get a refund,jmo
Guest homestead Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 Send her back and get a refund,jmoi agree ask for a refund you dont need the agro
billt Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 The grunt is the pigeons alarm call, she's on edge in strange surroundings, try putting her in a basket for a few days in her section, she'll get used to seeing you and not disrupt the rest with flying about, no reason for young birds to inherit this trait as they will be in their own home
JohnQuinn Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 Hi,can anyone help,I have in the last three days taken delivery of a new bird a three year old hen,the minute you open the loft door you can here her grunt,not only that but she takes off from wall to wall if I go into the section she is in,many years ago when in partnership with my father he would not entertain such a bird in our loft,whats best to do....? I paid quite a bit for her but she is upsetting the whole loft. If bred from are young birds likley to be the same...any help outhere....? If its any consolation John my SNFC Section winner was exactly the same, as was her Dam, G/dam and GG/dam. Also her G/sire being just as wild without the grunting and he was my best Ever racer.
blackdog Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 had them like this before,never been able to do anything with them, there the kind that would take your eyes out if given the chance,hope you can sort her out mate but from past experience i doubt it, and as you say, its upsetting the rest, best of luck whatever you decide.
Guest geordiejen Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 these type of pigeons can be a real pain,if she is just new then i would give her a bit of time to settle.maybe this bird is not used to being handled.did you go the the loft you bought it from?if so was she like that in the other loft.
bullcock Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 Grunting ? Handle her and look inside her mouth, if her throat is gapping and larger than a normal bird, send her back from where she came from and shame on the fancier who sent it like this, if this is not possible there is only one place for her!!!! JMO
hawked again Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 So what's the problem? All my hens grunt and I've had one or two seriously wild hens that never ever became tame but produced good youngsters. To the people saying bin it, why?
billt Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 So what's the problem? All my hens grunt and I've had one or two seriously wild hens that never ever became tame but produced good youngsters. To the people saying bin it, why? I do agree with you, It's racing pigeons we are all after, why worry about these minor irritations
Guest ljb107 Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 I'd just let it settle in before making harsh decisions
JOHNSEE Posted May 18, 2013 Author Report Posted May 18, 2013 Hi,Thanks for all your advice,let me add that returning the bird is not an option,I think I will follow a couple ....First one I wont make any rash decision,secondly I will try it in a basket for a few days,and handle it every time I go into the loft to try and show that it has nothing to fear from me......cant do that in the loft as I said it bounces off every wall.....thanks lads will let you know how I get on.......
bullcock Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 I don't have a problem with a wild bird in the loft, but grunting = poor respiratory and that's not acceptable in my loft.
Guest stb- Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 I don't have a problem with a wild bird in the loft, but grunting = poor respiratory and that's not acceptable in my loft.JEEZ THAT STATMENT IS NONSENCE , I HAVE A LOAD OF PIGEONS THAT GRUNT AND AS MENTIONED ITS ONLY A WARNING ALARM . ONE OF THE WORST I HAD WAS A BUSSCHAERT PIED HEN AND SHE GRUNTED EVEN IN THE RACE BASKETT SHE WAS A WINNER OF 10X 1ST RACING AGAINST GOOD COMPANY . A FELLOW IN THE CLUB WAS PUTTING HER THROUGH AND WAS MOANING ABOUT HER GRUNTTING IN THE HAND AND SAID HE WOULD PUT HER IN THE BIN AS GRUNTERS WERE NEVER ANY USE , WHEN HE REALISED WHAT HEN IT WAS HE THEN REALISED HE HAD MADE AN *expletive removed* OF HIMSELF WITH HIS STATMENT :emoticon-0136-giggle: Grunting is a habit passed on from parents to babies , it does no harm . If you had said a croakling or rasping sound i might have agreed but seen to many top doos who grunt like hell
Delboy Posted May 19, 2013 Report Posted May 19, 2013 Grunters are only alerting other pigeons of danger. Means fk all to the calibre of the pigeon. If its wild put it in a nest box and handle every day you go in. Get it eating out your hand in nest box, no feed elsewhere, only your hand.
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted May 19, 2013 Report Posted May 19, 2013 The best pigeon in our loft is a grunter. I darkened her nest box two years ago and she has scored from France twice since. Amazing in as much as if you have a hamper full of pigeons(Unless you purposely try to catch her) she will always be the last pigeon you take from the basket. Another odd thing about this pigeon is the only bird she has ever shown any affection towards is her nestmate. They baffle you at times, but since this pigeon I have darkened all the nest boxes whether the occupants are wild or not and I think they prefer it
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted May 19, 2013 Report Posted May 19, 2013 Everyone likes a tame pigeon, I've a blue hen here that sits on my head. At times though I can't be bothered with people, it stands to reason pigeons will be the same.
bibendium Posted May 19, 2013 Report Posted May 19, 2013 Everyone likes a tame pigeon, I've a blue hen here that sits on my head. At times though I can't be bothered with people, it stands to reason pigeons will be the same. I have one hen that when I have been eating my dinner out the back (weather permitting) comes out of the sky onto my plate has done many times. others that woudnt give me the time of day,lol
greenlands Posted May 19, 2013 Report Posted May 19, 2013 i tried that with the wife she still grunted , i had to get rid in the end Must have been out of the same nest as mine. :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:
Wiley Posted May 19, 2013 Report Posted May 19, 2013 One of my best stock birds a grandson of Willy Thas' Pokke, has this trait and all his best racing children have it also. To be honest I hate it, as it puts all the pigeons on edge, and believe me my old birds are always tame. I believe it is a trait that is past down.
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