Casting Vote Question

[dal2]

Does the president at any meeting have TWO votes????

 

ie: can he vote on a motion like a normal member then have a casting vote in the event of a tie?

 

The SHU rules state that he/she should have deliberative vote?? but thats a bit vague cos that means he must think about it???

[tiger]

yes he can have two votes one as a member and 1 if a tie. it happened this year at the snfc agm

[dal2]

yes he can have two votes one as a member and 1 if a tie. it happened this year at the snfc agm

 

 

Thanks John, I thought diffo but was not sure. Was it a tied vote at the SNFC meeting?

 

 

It seems strange that two votes would be recorded from a single member?

[tiger]

Thanks John, I thought diffo but was not sure. Was it a tied vote at the SNFC meeting?

 

 

It seems strange that two votes would be recorded from a single member?

yes it was tied

[PIGEON_MAN]

I always think that this is a very difficult position to be in as a president,he may be representing his club as a ordinary member and be mandated how to vote on a certain motion but then if it ends in a tie he then as to decide weather he should vote again as his club wishes or vote the other way as being President he may think it might be better for the organisation.I am always of the opinion that if there are not enough votes to change something then it should stay the same.

[naedoos]

I always think that this is a very difficult position to be in as a president,he may be representing his club as a ordinary member and be mandated how to vote on a certain motion but then if it ends in a tie he then as to decide weather he should vote again as his club wishes or vote the other way as being President he may think it might be better for the organisation.I am always of the opinion that if there are not enough votes to change something then it should stay the same.

 

 

Would think the majority of the time that things would stay the same as you state as most of the time the President would use his casting vote for things to remain status quo, but having said that I'm sure someone will correct me

[dal2]

Would think the majority of the time that things would stay the same as you state as most of the time the President would use his casting vote for things to remain status quo, but having said that I'm sure someone will correct me

The status quo would be the morally correct thing but that is not a rule making it a gray area!!

[walterboswell59]

Does the president at any meeting have TWO votes????

 

ie: can he vote on a motion like a normal member then have a casting vote in the event of a tie?

 

The SHU rules state that he/she should have deliberative vote?? but thats a bit vague cos that means he must think about it???

yes dal two votes but 2nd vote can only be used in the event of a tie

[walterboswell59]

I always think that this is a very difficult position to be in as a president,he may be representing his club as a ordinary member and be mandated how to vote on a certain motion but then if it ends in a tie he then as to decide weather he should vote again as his club wishes or vote the other way as being President he may think it might be better for the organisation.I am always of the opinion that if there are not enough votes to change something then it should stay the same.

correct m8 and thats the way his 2nd vote should go

[Walter swanston]

This question has caused difficulties in the past .My rule of thumb as president is not to vote at all unless it becomes a tie then use my vote as a casting vote, this is made easier for me as the president and vice president of our federation do NOT represent their clubs at Federation meetings.However the SHU constitution is not sufficiently clear on this matter as it talks of a deliberative vote (this can be checked on the SHU website).Perhaps an impasse such as this should be considered by the SHU and their advice to organisations made more clear.I am not really sure what a deliberative vot really is, my position remains clear the president should only vote in the event of a tie, this should prevent later accusations of impropriety.

[greenlands]

Thought it was the Chairman who had the casting vote ?

[Walter swanston]

Normally at any meetings I know of the president of an organisation acts as chairman.

[walterboswell59]

This question has caused difficulties in the past .My rule of thumb as president is not to vote at all unless it becomes a tie then use my vote as a casting vote, this is made easier for me as the president and vice president of our federation do NOT represent their clubs at Federation meetings.However the SHU constitution is not sufficiently clear on this matter as it talks of a deliberative vote (this can be checked on the SHU website).Perhaps an impasse such as this should be considered by the SHU and their advice to organisations made more clear.I am not really sure what a deliberative vot really is, my position remains clear the president should only vote in the event of a tie, this should prevent later accusations of impropriety.

you get my vote walt thats the way it should be m8

[jim]

CHAIMAN IN CLUB AND FED HAS CASTING VOTE MUST VOTE AS HIS PREVIOUS VOTE SO IT GOES TO WHAT THE CHAIRMAN VOTED FOR ORIGINALY

[greenlands]

That's the way it works in our club Jim.

[Tony C]

CHAIMAN IN CLUB AND FED HAS CASTING VOTE MUST VOTE AS HIS PREVIOUS VOTE SO IT GOES TO WHAT THE CHAIRMAN VOTED FOR ORIGINALY

 

I agree that the Chairman has the casting vote but lets say he/she abstained on the original vote? I think the chairman votes to keep the status-quo therefor voting different.

[peter pandy]

Their is an unwritten etiquette for chairpersons on a deliberating casting vote. The etiquette being, the casting vote should always be for the Status Quo regardless how he/she disposed of his/her personal vote.

[dwh]

Does the president at any meeting have TWO votes????

 

ie: can he vote on a motion like a normal member then have a casting vote in the event of a tie?

 

The SHU rules state that he/she should have deliberative vote?? but thats a bit vague cos that means he must think about it???

ALWAYS THOUGHT HE DID'NT HAVE A VOTE UNLESS ITS A CASTING VOTE IN A HUNG DECISION

BUT THIS DEPENDS ON THE DIFFERENT ORG