Guest IB Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 Just idle thoughts - plenty footage on-line of liberations set to wonderful music. Can't recall ever seeing footage of loading the transporter. Anybody got that footage or a link to it? Vertically challenged myself, my comfort zone is the 2nd tier, any higher and I'm struggling. Seen a guy lift an odd fully loaded basket on occasion and place it, but never seen it done from ground to transporter, a 2-man job I think, maybes 3 for the higher tiers, 4 and above, two climbing ladders while the third balances the back of the basket. What weight do you reckon that guy is lifting on his own, and what height to the 1st tier? I remember we used to have to weigh them way back in olden times when we sent by rail. I think those baskets were a lot bigger than today's though, they didn't have to fit the runners, just the railway van doors!! And as for lifting, we carried them across the railway tracks between the platforms, that was some lift from the track to get it on the other platform. Knackering, even for the teenager as I was then.
dal2 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 Just idle thoughts - plenty footage on-line of liberations set to wonderful music. Can't recall ever seeing footage of loading the transporter. Anybody got that footage or a link to it? Vertically challenged myself, my comfort zone is the 2nd tier, any higher and I'm struggling. Seen a guy lift an odd fully loaded basket on occasion and place it, but never seen it done from ground to transporter, a 2-man job I think, maybes 3 for the higher tiers, 4 and above, two climbing ladders while the third balances the back of the basket. What weight do you reckon that guy is lifting on his own, and what height to the 1st tier? I remember we used to have to weigh them way back in olden times when we sent by rail. I think those baskets were a lot bigger than today's though, they didn't have to fit the runners, just the railway van doors!! And as for lifting, we carried them across the railway tracks between the platforms, that was some lift from the track to get it on the other platform. Knackering, even for the teenager as I was then. Ecclefechan have a Scaffold which we put together!! Two men on top,two men lifting and bringig off empties and everybody else carrying empties back to the hut!! Lockerbie mark with us and their members have helped considerably???
alex young Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 One of the clubs I'm in we're a bunch of old farts and a few can't load now,I'm 63 and up to now have been up the ladder most weeks but can't keep doing that much longer.The other club we have plenty of strong lads in their forties and it's not a problem there.
dal2 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 This is wots required???? Little bit of a mod to put a basket on aswell??? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-110v-Pop-Up-push-around-access-platform-cherry-picker-scissor-lift-/190746985996?pt=UK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment&hash=item2c6968060c
THE FIFER Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 as club members get older its getting a problem, how can it be overcome,
WHITTY Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 TO MAYBE SOLVE THE BROBLEM THE FEDERATION SHOULD BUY A SMALL FORK LIFT THAT ATACHES TO THE BACK OF THE TRAILERMOST LORRIES HAVE THEM NOW A DAYS JUST A THOUGHT
THE FIFER Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 TO MAYBE SOLVE THE BROBLEM THE FEDERATION SHOULD BUY A SMALL FORK LIFT THAT ATACHES TO THE BACK OF THE TRAILERMOST LORRIES HAVE THEM NOW A DAYS JUST A THOUGHT good idea, but how would you get the baskets in, think you would still have to have someone up there,
alex young Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 TO MAYBE SOLVE THE BROBLEM THE FEDERATION SHOULD BUY A SMALL FORK LIFT THAT ATACHES TO THE BACK OF THE TRAILERMOST LORRIES HAVE THEM NOW A DAYS JUST A THOUGHT The Merseyside Fed used a fork lift to decant the feeder transporter to the main one,worked very well.
alex young Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 good idea, but how would you get the baskets in, think you would still have to have someone up there,We used a large pallet with two lads on.
greenlands Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 The Merseyside Fed used a fork lift to decant the feeder transporter to the main one,worked very well.Two lads where I used to work got the sack for the same thing.H & S would have a field day should there be an accident.XXOur transporter is loaded via. the corridor.
THE FIFER Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 Two lads where I used to work got the sack for the same thing.H & S would have a field day should there be an accident.XXOur transporter is loaded via. the corridor. you also need special qualifications now to drive and use a fork lift, do you not
greenlands Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 you also need special qualifications now to drive and use a fork lift, do you notCorrect,although I was not a driver (maintenance engineer) I had to do a drivers course etc.to be able to repair FLT.and test drive them.
geordie1234 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 Only ever saw the Lanarkshire fed load up Two ladders person on each 4 club members stay behind and pass the baskets up too the guys on the ladders only pain is yer heed gets covered in saw dust
andy Burgess Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 first club i was in we had to load baskets on a trolley to take down do transporter .a few of us taller members would lift baskets on head and at arms length up to 2 members on ladders to slot in (a lot of work).moved house and loft ,in new club same federation and transporter ,baskets were taken to transporter .the driver and convoyer (same guys) placed baskets on transporter .i asked a club member why we werent doing it ?? we are not insured to do it and they are getting paid to.so for years they had conned my first club
geordie1234 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 first club i was in we had to load baskets on a trolley to take down do transporter .a few of us taller members would lift baskets on head and at arms length up to 2 members on ladders to slot in (a lot of work).moved house and loft ,in new club same federation and transporter ,baskets were taken to transporter .the driver and convoyer (same guys) placed baskets on transporter .i asked a club member why we werent doing it ?? we are not insured to do it and they are getting paid to.so for years they had conned my first club Yeah convoyer and driver do it aswell at my club we just pass them up to them
Delboy Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 Yeah convoyer and driver do it aswell at my club we just pass them up to them I think its illegal for driver to load baskets now, its all to do with insurance going up a ladder.
geordie1234 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 I think its illegal for driver to load baskets now, its all to do with insurance going up a ladder.Who is insured to go up the ladder?
clockman Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 Who is insured to go up the ladder? A window cleaner
Delboy Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 Who is insured to go up the ladder? Nobody really but I know a driver fell off the ladder and claimed Catterill( I think) and they now make sure that no driver or convoyer goes up a ladder to load baskets.Its down to the club members to load them on.
Guest IB Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 Our Driver & Convoyer are paid extra to go round the clubs and load their baskets. We are the last call before the liberation point, and club members certainly help load the transporter at our club. Just this year one of the guys built a trolley that can hold 4/5 loaded baskets - we have had a ramp out of the clubhouse double doors onto the access lane for a couple of years, so its handy to get them to the car park at the front where the transporter draws in, but theres a flight of 4 steps from the lane down to the car park that stops us getting right down with the trolley - I think the plan is to replace these steps with a second ramp. Take the point about elderly profile of fanciers means many soon not able to lift & load, so yes, loading needs more thought. Definitely 2 men to a basket.
alex young Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 The lad who takes our other fed has the crate on his head and climbs the ladder to slot it in for the top rows.Mind you he's got a head like a mortar board.
THE FIFER Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 Nobody really but I know a driver fell off the ladder and claimed Catterill( I think) and they now make sure that no driver or convoyer goes up a ladder to load baskets.Its down to the club members to load them on. so how do they cut the strings http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0138-thinking.gif
Delboy Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 so how do they cut the strings Good point Archie, maybe they are insured to go up the ladders for the liberation and not the loading of baskets, who knows
Guest stb- Posted November 2, 2012 Report Posted November 2, 2012 so how do they cut the strings with an exstendable pen knife silly
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