THE PRIEST Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 Just started using hormoform again for the first time in years. Problem is the birds just wont touch it i have even cut the feed in half to try and get them to take it. Every one i know round here uses it and the birds cant seem to get enough of it. Anyone had the same problem and how did you solve it ? michael.
Guest shadow Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 try feeding barley on its own then introduce the hormoform never found a pigeon that left any once used to it
REDCHEQHEN Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 Feed the hormoform first - on its own they'll eat it if hungry - and get used to it that way
Tony C Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 The best time I found to introduce it was when they started feeding their young.
matt Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 never had a problem with my birds taking it but if i get a new bird in they are sometimes reluctant maby its because mine have had it from being youngsters i just fill a pot with it before breeding and then a teaspoon in the boxes every day when feeding ybs it makes a big difference in my opinon to the squabs would not be without it.
Guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 It's only because they aren't used to it yet,keep at it as it's really good stuff,I feed it all the time,once 1 or 2 start taking it the rest should follow
Andkar Lofts Posted January 15, 2008 Report Posted January 15, 2008 It's only because they aren't used to it yet,keep at it as it's really good stuff,I feed it all the time,once 1 or 2 start taking it the rest should follow agree there ,only takes day /so for them to get used to it & once 1 eats it others follow suit.........can highly recommend it ,i have used it for years all year round mixed in (sparingly )with daily feed .....
Guest casbri Posted January 15, 2008 Report Posted January 15, 2008 feed hormoform in the morning and leave it down they will soon get used to it
coey Posted January 15, 2008 Report Posted January 15, 2008 can iask whqat hormoform is, and what it does please? cheers, anthony
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted January 15, 2008 Report Posted January 15, 2008 can iask whqat hormoform is, and what it does please? cheers, anthony What is Hormoform? Hormoform is a feed supplement which is designed to supplement any mineral or vitamin deficiency in the basic diet of a racing pigeon. What does it contain? Hormoform is a compound of high energy fats and oils, animal and vegetable protein, yeast, cod-liver oil, malt extract, amino acids, vitamins and minerals, plus trace elements, all mixed into a cut wheat base. When do I need to feed Hormoform? Hormoform quite easily fits in any feeding system and it is an excellent product to use when breeding and racing. Fanciers cannot believe the difference in their young birds when feeding Hormoform. How is Hormoform introduced? Hormoform is best fed on its own and not mixed with the main diet, although it does mix well with smaller seeds. If you haven't used Hormoform before, introduce in gallipots before pairing. The pigeons may be a little shy at first but they will soon get used to it and by the time they are feeding young they will relish it. As the youngsters grow the Hormoform intake should increase to around 20% of the diet. Is it necessary to carry on feeding Hormoform when the youngsters are weaned? Hormoform will play an important part of the young birds' diet and will be a great aid when the young birds are growing and developing. Around 12% of the diet should include Hormoform all the way through the young birds' programme. How do I feed Hormoform to the old bird racers? There are different ways to feed Hormoform during the old bird racing season. If you feed in troughs on the floor then a gallipot of Hormoform on the floor on an ad lib basis is excellent. The pigeons will take it when they require and would normally eat up to 15% of their total diet. Widowhood pigeons fed separately in their boxes can receive around 1 teaspoon per day either before or after their main meal, although many successful long distance fanciers increase this amount for the longer races. Is Hormoform important for the moult? Hormoform included in the diet during the moult is a big advantage. Hormoform contains methionine which plays an important role when new feathers are being grown. Feathers are made up of a protein called Keratin which contains large amounts of sulphur, which is absorbed from the methionine in the diet. The typical analysis of Hormoform is as follows: - 12% protein - 8.8% oil - 5.1% fibre
THE PRIEST Posted January 15, 2008 Author Report Posted January 15, 2008 Thanks for the replys . As of this afternoon the pots are empty so they have eaten it all. Pleased about this as the wife bought a big bag of the stuff. Should last ages. michael.
TORNADOLOFTS Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 BEEN ON HARKERS WEBSITE NOT MUCH INFO ON IT ABOUT THE PRODUCT HAS ANYONE USED IT AND SOME INFO ON IT PLEASE
kirky Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 I have used homoform for years, when breeding, racing old & young birds, some say thire birds wont eat it, but you give them it first before main feed and thay soon get the taste for it,
Guest IB Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 This is a composite of posts from threads on here that mention what is in Hormoform:- What is Hormoform? Hormoform is a feed supplement which is designed to supplement any mineral or vitamin deficiency in the basic diet of a racing pigeon. What does it contain? Hormoform is a compound of high energy fats and oils, animal and vegetable protein, yeast, cod-liver oil, malt extract, amino acids, vitamins and minerals, plus trace elements, all mixed into a cut wheat base. When do I need to feed Hormoform? Hormoform quite easily fits in any feeding system and it is an excellent product to use when breeding and racing. Fanciers cannot believe the difference in their young birds when feeding Hormoform. How is Hormoform introduced? Hormoform is best fed on its own and not mixed with the main diet, although it does mix well with smaller seeds. If you haven't used Hormoform before, introduce in gallipots before pairing. The pigeons may be a little shy at first but they will soon get used to it and by the time they are feeding young they will relish it. As the youngsters grow the Hormoform intake should increase to around 20% of the diet. Is it necessary to carry on feeding Hormoform when the youngsters are weaned? Hormoform will play an important part of the young birds' diet and will be a great aid when the young birds are growing and developing. Around 12% of the diet should include Hormoform all the way through the young birds' programme. How do I feed Hormoform to the old bird racers? There are different ways to feed Hormoform during the old bird racing season. If you feed in troughs on the floor then a gallipot of Hormoform on the floor on an ad lib basis is excellent. The pigeons will take it when they require and would normally eat up to 15% of their total diet. Widowhood pigeons fed separately in their boxes can receive around 1 teaspoon per day either before or after their main meal, although many successful long distance fanciers increase this amount for the longer races. Is Hormoform important for the moult? Hormoform included in the diet during the moult is a big advantage. Hormoform contains methionine which plays an important role when new feathers are being grown. Feathers are made up of a protein called Keratin which contains large amounts of sulphur, which is absorbed from the methionine in the diet. The typical analysis of Hormoform is as follows: - 12% protein - 8.8% oil - 5.1% fibre Harkers Hormoform Note that this post was originally put up by Craig (CS). I added 'importance & deficiency info' to it, for my own information. The calculated typical analysis of Hormoform is as follows: protein 9%, oil 9%, fibre 1.8% ash 13% vitA 18000 ius/kg vitD3 5000 ius/kg vitE 75 ius/kg The nutrients contained in Hormoform include: Vitamins A, D3, K, D1 (Thiamine), B2 (Riboflavine), B6(Pyridoxine), B12, E (alpha tocopherol) Plus Chloride, Iodine, Cobalt, Copper, Manganese, Iron Magnesium, Nicotinic Acid, (B3) Calcium Pantothenate (B5) Biotin, IMPORTANCE: Aids in the utilization of protein, folic acid, Pantothenic acid, and Vitamin B-12, DEFICIENCY SYMPTOMS: May lead to extreme exhaustion, drowsiness, muscle pain, loss of appetite, depression, greyish skin colour. Inositol, IMPORTANCE: Necessary for the formation of lecithin; aids in the breakdown of fats; helps reduce blood cholesterol DEFICIENCY SYMPTOMS: May result in high blood cholesterol. Choline, IMPORTANCE: Very important in controlling fat & cholesterol buildup in the body; prevents fat from accumulating in the liver; facilitates the movement of fats in the cells; helps regulate the kidneys, liver & gallbladder; important for nerve transmission; helps improve memory. DEFICIENCY SYMPTOMS: May result in cirrhosis and fatty degeneration of the liver, hardening of the arteries, heart problems, high blood pressure, hemorrhaging kidneys. Amino Benzoic Acid IMPORTANCE: Aids healthy bacteria in producing folic acid; aids in the formation of red blood cells; aids in the assimilation of Pantothenic acid; DEFICIENCY SYMPTOMS: May cause extreme fatigue, irritability, depressions, nervousness, headaches, digestive disorders. Lysine, Cystine Glycine, Calcium, Sodium Chloride Phosphorus, Zinc, Formic Acid, Arginine Methionine, Tryptophane. Feeding instructions Resting birds – 57gm (2 oz) hormoform per 450gm (16oz) feed daily Racing birds – 71 gm (2.5oz) hormoform per 450 gm (16oz) feed daily Breeding bird – 86 gm (3oz) hormoform per 450 gm (16oz) feed daily
Guest shadow Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 used it for years very good product
budgie Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 First class product mix it with Redband/ crushed peanuts for human consumption and you will see a difference in both your results and the quality of the youngsters.
TORNADOLOFTS Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 IT IS NOT HOMOFORM ITS CALLED HOMON PELLETS
REDCHEQHEN Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 Product Description Homon is a scientifically formulated pelleted ration containing a wide range of ingredients, many of which cannot be included in traditional pigeon mixtures due to their natural form and palatability. They contain however, a wide range of nutritious substances not always found in traditional mixtures. Using the latest computerised food formulation techniques, the constituent parts are carefully selected to produce an end product, which is consistently palatable and firm with the following specification: Oil 4% Crude Protein 19% Fibre 4% Ash 6.5% Vitamin A 17,500iu/kg Vitamin D3 2,000iu/kg Vitamin E 16.5iu/kg Molybdenum 0.2mg/kg Feed ingredients are checked before use for oil, crude protein, moisture, minerals and amino acids. Vitamins A, D3, B1, B6, pantothenic acid, choline, E, K and biotin are added during mixing along with the trace elements iron, copper, manganese, zinc, cobalt and iodine. Feeding Homon pellets is a way of ensuring pigeons receive a wide range of different nutrients, many of which will be absent or at low levels in traditional feed mixes. Homon pellets, although more expensive than most corn mixtures, are in fact a very cost-effective feed since the high nutritional content means that 1.35oz of Homon pellets equal 1.5oz of pigeon corn (based on analysis of several proprietary pigeon mixtures). Homon is also easily assimilated by pigeons since the grains and pulses have been ground up. Homon is supplied in 20kg bags and can be fed as a percentage of the normal diet, mixed with traditional mixtures, or it can be fed on its own thus ensuring the pigeons receive their full nutrient requirement.
Diydave Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 he he !!! i remember a nice old chap (eddie from pudsey , leeds. in the seventys using homoform, . he fetched his birds on basketing night and the droppings were red !!! he was using it as a main feed !!! i love the product, and my father did before me, a pinch per bird is enough ? anytime of the year .
blackdog Posted April 30, 2009 Report Posted April 30, 2009 used it for a number of years,great stuff to condition the birds if fed in small amounts.
Guest casbri Posted May 6, 2009 Report Posted May 6, 2009 have used it for years very good feed for young and old birds
Guest triballofts Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 hi how many people use Hormoform do you use it all year round or just at certain times also how do you feed it and at what rate
owen101 Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 i have just started racing well keeping pigeons and i use hormoform i feed it when the are racing but my dad gives stock pigeons some aswell
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