Training Youngsters

[pigeonchested]

Do any of the members on here train their youngsters only as young birds (no racing) if so how far do they go and have these y/bs flew well from the distance races as o/b s.

Thanks

[DJWa]

Do any of the members on here train their youngsters only as young birds (no racing) if so how far do they go and have these y/bs flew well from the distance races as o/b s.

Thanks

 

i race a team and have a second team loft flying only

after the yearling stage ive about the same of each team left

a lot of my best birds never saw a basket as a youngbird

[victorious]

i race a team and have a second team loft flying only

after the yearling stage ive about the same of each team left

a lot of my best birds never saw a basket as a youngbird

 

WHAT U MEAN NO TRAINING WHATEVER

[DJWa]

WHAT U MEAN NO TRAINING WHATEVER

 

correct they only fly round the loft

and obviously go ranging whith the other team

[R.A.M.C.63]

correct they only fly round the loft

and obviously go ranging whith the other team

 

 

Intresting DJWa, I hav 30+ Yearlings 4 this Year only had 18 Tosses 10 of them at 50miles, usually only hav 10-15 OBs to race, was thinkin of putin them out to 300mls and stoppin wats left, What do you think,? Can be hard on them up Here

[PIGEON_MAN]

Personally I dont like keeping y/bs that havnt been trained or raced in their year of birth,if at the end of the season I have to many birds these are allways the first to go.JMO.

[DJWa]

Intresting DJWa, I hav 30+ Yearlings 4 this Year only had 18 Tosses 10 of them at 50miles, usually only hav 10-15 OBs to race, was thinkin of putin them out to 300mls and stoppin wats left, What do you think,? Can be hard on them up Here

 

all depends what you want out of them

if looking for an experianced team for the future take it easy with them

if i get my yearlings to 260 rotherham im happy

whith 1 or 2 going further

 

why i do this is because my fed is tied in with the national program

and any race we have over 260 is with them

and i think its a graveyard for inexperianced yearlings

that why i only send 1 or 2 along with the older birds

[R.A.M.C.63]

Personally I dont like keeping y/bs that havnt been trained or raced in their year of birth,if at the end of the season I have to many birds these are allways the first to go.JMO.

 

I agree with you their, i wont give L/Bs space in loft Jmo, these are early bred but didn,t come on as i expected while TRAININ, turned out i mis-judged feedin, by time i noticed we were too far out in program,but they inproved so well, so decided to keep them, so havin this many to race is new too me, try any thing once,

[R.A.M.C.63]

all depends what you want out of them

if looking for an experianced team for the future take it easy with them

if i get my yearlings to 260 rotherham im happy

whith 1 or 2 going further

 

why i do this is because my fed is tied in with the national program

and any race we have over 260 is with them

and i think its a graveyard for inexperianced yearlings

that why i only send 1 or 2 along with the older birds

 

Just hope first few races aren,t bad ones. to give them chance, 300m will do me, no point hammer,n them, is ur fed not coming with us this year thout thier was word of transport,n ur fed,

[DJWa]

Just hope first few races aren,t bad ones. to give them chance, 300m will do me, no point hammer,n them, is ur fed not coming with us this year thout thier was word of transport,n ur fed,

 

our officials were instructed at the agm to contact you lads

to look at the possability of going together for some of the longer races

[WulDon]

the hen i timed at SNFC Clermont this year (61st Open) was a latebred in 2008, and only went 20 miles in the year of her birth, leicester as a 2yo (278 miles)

[billt]

I think by the posts on this subject we waste a lot of potentially good pigeons through impatience

[geordie1234]

This season I plan on not racing about 25% of my youngbirds just train

[pigeonchested]

Was thinking along the same lines as geordie racing half of my team and training half to Hawick which is about 80 miles or so. It would be good to compare their progress as o/bs.

[OLDYELLOW]

I've found any birds that have not had at least two races in year of birth go down like flies year after all that wintering and looking after to be greatly disappointed year after , jmo from my experiences , only good late bred to me is something special to go in to stock loft

[geordie1234]

Was at a q&a recently were two good national flyers on the west split the team one half dont race as yearlings go to the coast approx 380miles then 2 year old over the channel. theyre results dont lie but i suppose they have the proven birds though

[OLDYELLOW]

Was at a q&a recently were two good national flyers on the west split the team one half dont race as yearlings go to the coast approx 380miles then 2 year old over the channel. theyre results dont lie but i suppose they have the proven birds though

Sounds like they firstly have the room to hold surplus pigeons not many lofts can and maybe the numbers they keep and breed are a lot higher would love to know percentage lost at yearling stage I certainly bet it's very high , at end of day a bit of experience in a race basket is a good thing jmo

[geordie1234]

You would be lucky if they ever bred more than 60 ybs which some may say is a lot but you get guys breeding double what i would say is they are hard on them they are expected to do well at the channel or they won't be there simple as that

[JohnQuinn]

Best 2 birds i have ever had were latebreds, untrained as Yb's. If its in them, its in them. JMO

[geordie1234]

Best 2 birds i have ever had were latebreds, untrained as Yb's. If its in them, its in them. JMO

That's the way I look at it John

[R.A.M.C.63]

the hen i timed at SNFC Clermont this year (61st Open) was a latebred in 2008, and only went 20 miles in the year of her birth, leicester as a 2yo (278 miles)

 

 

I think u need lot space+patience to get good ain, somthing i aint got, my mate gets pick of them, think es had couple good ains, after all its up to fancier to get the good out of them if its their, and i do think lot of Y/Bs are Wasted thru inPatience chasin tickets, alot of them would probly turn out haf decent if taken slower, jmo

[stan the man]

I think u need lot space+patience to get good ain, somthing i aint got, my mate gets pick of them, think es had couple good ains, after all its up to fancier to get the good out of them if its their, and i do think lot of Y/Bs are Wasted thru inPatience chasin tickets, alot of them would probly turn out haf decent if taken slower, jmo

that will be YOUR ONLY MATE, YEAH YOUR RITE THERE, got pair of latebreades, blue cock and blue hen. the blue cock flew the whole old bird programe did nuthin untill he went oot to 300 mile ,whitch he won first old bird newark 350 mile .2nd club 7th west section 18th open peterbrough 400 mile .then he went too hastings 498 mile 2nd club. AS 2 year old, he flew the whole programe, 4 club peterbrough , 7th club hastings. THE BLUE HEN. flew the programe and she was 5th club peterbrough , 3rd club hastings. i have 11 basicly same way bread, which all have flowing from 200 mile too 500 mile, this strain of birds are flying well for me at the distance.

[K J Young]

Best 2 birds i have ever had were latebreds, untrained as Yb's. If its in them, its in them. JMO

i agree 100% with john , best 2 doo,s in ma loft at the moment had no training or races as youngsters

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Last season my raced youngbirds went down as yearlings, however, the unraced, untrained latebreds fared far better.

I was advised to stop racing the latebreds as they were carrying nest feathers which break down in the adverse conditions we were experiencing and to continue training them. When thee better weather came along they performed sufficiently. The yearlings were not given this grace. We will see how both fare as 2YO's.

[rikki]

That's the way I look at it John

breed a few of the trusted birds single up only as ybirds anywhere you go get them up ,they will go anywhere after that ,i had a one this year scored at marlbourgh sent flown cleremont 540mls won the yearling cup in club never wasted as ybird only singled ,bred the right way though,no need to breed many !