JohnQuinn Posted December 25, 2011 Report Posted December 25, 2011 I always take some young birds from my race team, especially my yearlings, do you breed from your racers or is it Strictly stock birds you take your youngsters from.?
K J Young Posted December 25, 2011 Report Posted December 25, 2011 I take youngsters from all my birds every year , imo if there worth feeding all winter there worth taking a pair from them , you never no
lanarkshire lad Posted December 25, 2011 Report Posted December 25, 2011 I take youngsters from all my birds every year , imo if there worth feeding all winter there worth taking a pair from them , you never noI try and take some from my fancied yearlings,theres plenty top doos up and down the country bred from yearlings and latebreds. I think its good to breed from the tested yearlings in your loft.
K J Young Posted December 25, 2011 Report Posted December 25, 2011 I mostly do this so I no if my breed lines are working , had some good youngsters from ma racers over the last couple of years .
ALF Posted December 25, 2011 Report Posted December 25, 2011 I ALWAYS BREED FROM SOME OF MY YEARLINGS BUT NOT TOO MANY OF THEM AS I DONT WONT THAT MANY YB'S SO DONT BREED OFF ALL MY PAIRS
boxer Posted December 25, 2011 Report Posted December 25, 2011 ONLY OFF OUR FANCIED YEARLINGS MAINLY BREED FROM STOCK LOFT ALWAYS GET 1 OR 2 GOODUNS
yeboah Posted December 25, 2011 Report Posted December 25, 2011 Have not bred from racers for four to five years now,don,t see the point in keeping stock and breeding from the race team,although if a bird races really well would consider a latebred from it at end of season.
just ask me Posted December 25, 2011 Report Posted December 25, 2011 a lot of guys keep there young from there virgin hens as they think these will be the best i sell mine off the race team to pay fees corn bill etc
fletch Posted December 25, 2011 Report Posted December 25, 2011 always let the racers feed/breed 1 yb especially the yearlings gives them that extra bond to the loft
lanarkshire lad Posted December 25, 2011 Report Posted December 25, 2011 a lot of guys keep there young from there virgin hens as they think these will be the best i sell mine off the race team to pay fees corn bill etcWill you be selling any from your Verreckt pigeons? and how much from the olympic wacko line ?
just ask me Posted December 25, 2011 Report Posted December 25, 2011 Will you be selling any from your Verreckt pigeons? and how much from the olympic wacko line ? i wish i had them lol i be out in china :emoticon-0136-giggle: im just a normal working guy lol a bloody years wages for one off him id say and i have not worked in over a year due too illness hope to back soon though
Guest IB Posted December 26, 2011 Report Posted December 26, 2011 IMO it would be pretty hard to breed only from the stock team. There must come a point after progeny testing when the genes in the successful racers off those stock pigeons need to be brought back in to create / conserve a family of pigeons. The downside of doing that is it maybe also means that you'll need to take less from the stock birds that year, unless you've bags of room.
Wiley Posted December 26, 2011 Report Posted December 26, 2011 I only rear of my stock birds and any birds that are multiple scoreers and federation winners, but any I do take from the racers both parents need to have won at least once.
tiger Posted December 26, 2011 Report Posted December 26, 2011 i breed from some of my yearling/s ie breedin and type. bred winners from them .
Guest LBuddle Posted December 26, 2011 Report Posted December 26, 2011 We breed from ALL of our race birds and we let them have Two. We keep a few off the really good racers and sell the rest each year. I think it helps build a strong relationship between the Cocks and their boxes.
fletch Posted December 26, 2011 Report Posted December 26, 2011 We breed from ALL of our race birds and we let them have Two. We keep a few off the really good racers and sell the rest each year. I think it helps build a strong relationship between the Cocks and their boxes. the last point is a major part to play in the life of the cock
Guest stb- Posted December 26, 2011 Report Posted December 26, 2011 Normally dont breed of any racers only proven stock birds .
Guest LBuddle Posted December 27, 2011 Report Posted December 27, 2011 the last point is a major part to play in the life of the cock Yes Mate couldn't agree more.
budgie Posted December 27, 2011 Report Posted December 27, 2011 Only from the winners paired back to the winners and they must have either Fed/Snfc diplomas.Club Winners without them are used as feeders.
Tony C Posted December 27, 2011 Report Posted December 27, 2011 I've found over the years that you stumble across a good pair of breeders (think Old Hand called it the clicking factor). What you would call a pair of mediocre pigeons for some reason knock out super racers! The best place to find these pairs are in your race team. I also value the very first pair of eggs a hen lays.
REDCHEQHEN Posted December 27, 2011 Report Posted December 27, 2011 Most of my stock birds now are former racers, and most have never won a race !! They are in the stock loft because of other reasons 1 pair - he is a small cock and was 2nd (only 2 birds on the day in the club) in a very hard race, who was badly injured by a hawk the following year, he is paired to a medium to large hen who has been badly injured more than once, the last time with a broken keel, she has scored in a short race - they have produced winning youngsters though, including 1st and 4th fed (1st fed against 2000+ birds) The above were put in the stock loft because they returned home despite severe injuries and didn't give up, showing both grit and determination Another pair, put in the stock loft in 2011 the cock had produced a winner with another hen in 2010, and had scored every year from being a young bird, but never won himself, he is paired to a hen who has minor positions, and they have produced a 1st fed 2011 so it is not just winners that produce winners New to the stock loft in 2012 will be a hen who bred 12th combine 26,000 birds in 2011 (2010 bred youngster 'from the race team')she was still in the race team in 2011, as yet, I don't know who she will be paired to
Guest Tooshy Boy Posted December 27, 2011 Report Posted December 27, 2011 I HOPE THEY BREED YOU A LOT MORE. WELLDONE.///
Guest challengerlofts Posted December 29, 2011 Report Posted December 29, 2011 I did as well, from my late bred that crossed the Carentan last year. I start racing this hen from the month of august. Her farthest on inland race was only 107 miles. Then on her 4th race, straight into channel race. The sire of this hen, also as a late bred when he crossed the Lessay. I bought it as a baby ( my avatar ) from Louella way back Oct. 2008. The next year, I race this late bred along side with the yearlings & old cocks. Then, I sent it to Lessay on the 13th of June, 2009. There's nothing wrong doin' it, doin' breeding from racers. Especially, when you have been working hard & getting a better result for it.
andy Burgess Posted December 29, 2011 Report Posted December 29, 2011 Most of my stock birds now are former racers, and most have never won a race !! They are in the stock loft because of other reasons 1 pair - he is a small cock and was 2nd (only 2 birds on the day in the club) in a very hard race, who was badly injured by a hawk the following year, he is paired to a medium to large hen who has been badly injured more than once, the last time with a broken keel, she has scored in a short race - they have produced winning youngsters though, including 1st and 4th fed (1st fed against 2000+ birds) The above were put in the stock loft because they returned home despite severe injuries and didn't give up, showing both grit and determination Another pair, put in the stock loft in 2011 the cock had produced a winner with another hen in 2010, and had scored every year from being a young bird, but never won himself, he is paired to a hen who has minor positions, and they have produced a 1st fed 2011 so it is not just winners that produce winners New to the stock loft in 2012 will be a hen who bred 12th combine 26,000 birds in 2011 (2010 bred youngster 'from the race team')she was still in the race team in 2011, as yet, I don't know who she will be paired toi can remember asking when a "novice" back in (about 2006) on Basics ,the best i had was a good looking stock hen whos offspring were always there at the end of the season , and my best "old bird" racing cock had only won a 4th place in the club about pairing them together , most told me i was wasting my time. the pair produced winners that year and every year since , grandchildren have won here when i moved to Scotland . so despite (for many) a poor racer , has become one of the best stock cocks i have ?
Guest challengerlofts Posted December 29, 2011 Report Posted December 29, 2011 Most of my stock birds now are former racers, and most have never won a race !! They are in the stock loft because of other reasons 1 pair - he is a small cock and was 2nd (only 2 birds on the day in the club) in a very hard race, who was badly injured by a hawk the following year, he is paired to a medium to large hen who has been badly injured more than once, the last time with a broken keel, she has scored in a short race - they have produced winning youngsters though, including 1st and 4th fed (1st fed against 2000+ birds) The above were put in the stock loft because they returned home despite severe injuries and didn't give up, showing both grit and determination Another pair, put in the stock loft in 2011 the cock had produced a winner with another hen in 2010, and had scored every year from being a young bird, but never won himself, he is paired to a hen who has minor positions, and they have produced a 1st fed 2011 so it is not just winners that produce winners New to the stock loft in 2012 will be a hen who bred 12th combine 26,000 birds in 2011 (2010 bred youngster 'from the race team')she was still in the race team in 2011, as yet, I don't know who she will be paired to Well done, REDCHEQHEN.
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