With The Lanarkshire Going West

[budgie]

This thread should now be closed, everbody has aired their views so now lets move on and i for one will be sending all my Doos to Ypres with the SNFC.

[harky]

This thread should now be closed, everbody has aired their views so now lets move on and i for one will be sending all my Doos to Ypres with the SNFC.

Whit they want to close it for on your say, Budgie yer just a member the same as me and everyones entitled to their opinion, A bet when you were at school you played a lot of follow the leader. :emoticon-0140-rofl: :emoticon-0140-rofl:

[Roland]

Close it

Is a good thing for views to be aired. Further a heated debate is good as it causes interest, and like scratchings in the farmyard it draws attention. WHICH can only be good for members and site alike.

[OLDYELLOW]

This subject is been monitored , please refrain from personal derogatory remarks about other members yes have a debate but keep it to the issue of the post rather than insulting each other . If this topic continues with insults it will be locked .

 

As far as I can see the programme has been set by those that wished to choose a programme and went and voted , I can also see that not everyone would be happy by change , and the right to jump ships whether anyone likes it or not is a possibility for those that aren't happy . Is the fed that big that it be better with two sections one east one west ??? then let them send with the section they prefer I'm surprised the one fed rule exists as this removes choice , surely this is out dated as there's many federations that over lap each other or more than one in a area . Surely it could be argued that it is a members right to send with any federation they are in the boundary of .

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

GETTING FED WHATCHING MEMBERS SLAGING EACH OTHER. LETS JUST TRY IT AND SEE THE OUTCOME.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

who the fk ye talking tae. you never ever lost any doos on the east, well you said ye didny

You wouldn't be trying to say I'm a liar?? Would you Eddie.

 

Be interesting to know who I told that I never ever lost doos down the east, anyway just to confirm that plenty have been lost, just the same as every other Lanarkshire fedaration member why do you think Lanarkshire have sold 20,000 rings every year for the last 10 years whislt at the same time have a maximum birdage of 8,000 at any one race.

[WEENANN1]

you said you had good returns down the east the same as everybody else on here didnt ye. if i wanted to say you were a liar i would say it and right to your face.remember and send all your ybs down the west then youl see what losses are about

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

you said you had good returns down the east the same as everybody else on here didnt ye. if i wanted to say you were a liar i would say it and right to your face.remember and send all your ybs down the west then youl see what losses are about

 

Good returns compared to the previous 2 years flying down the east, left with 39 from 62, is this good returns?? maybe not to some fanciers, so make your own mind up.

 

 

2011 = 60% returns, longest fed race 123 miles

2010 = 50% returns, longest fed race 144 miles

2009 = 25% returns, longest fed race 165 miles

Average over the 3 years = 45%, not exactly startling returns,

 

 

 

I hope your still buying the champers tomorrow night

 

those returns are for young birds only

Edited October 20, 2011 by Gareth Rankin

[frank-123]

Good returns compared to the previous 2 years flying down the east, left with 39 from 62, is this good returns?? maybe not to some fanciers, so make your own mind up.

 

I hope your still buying the champers tomorrow night

 

Quite good returns Gareth if you went to every race and training as well.

Hopefully you and Eddie can sit down have a wee drink on Friday and discuss in a friendly manner the east and west route.

Eddie you are not alone in your frustration i have spoken to many of my club members of the last few days and they have realized by not attending the race meeting they have been lumbered with a race route they don't want to send to.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Quite good returns Gareth if you went to every race and training as well.

Hopefully you and Eddie can sit down have a wee drink on Friday and discuss in a friendly manner the east and west route.

Eddie you are not alone in your frustration i have spoken to many of my club members of the last few days and they have realized by not attending the race meeting they have been lumbered with a race route they don't want to send to.

 

Once racing started i only had one training toss and it was from east of me, yes peregrine went right through the team. Didn't train as nearly everyone you spoke to were getting hit so much so that the Favorite site for the Lanarkshire men, i.e. Pebbles became a no fly zone.

[Guest WINGS 04]

I jus t hope that we can get a bit of good weather to star with then we can all come on here and have a go at tam and Gareth or just send the hit man round but we can't just say that that we are going to get wiped out before we get them there

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

I jus t hope that we can get a bit of good weather to star with then we can all come on here and have a go at tam and Gareth or just send the hit man round but we can't just say that that we are going to get wiped out before we get them there

Glad to see i have been nominated up front for the hitman if the returns are bad.

Ive only got the one vote

[VMS]

Did not attend the meeting and not that bothered which side we go down,in saying that the best 500 mile pigeons that i have had since starting racing were raced down the west route.Good luck to all in 2012 and as previously posted let's hope we get decent racing weather.

[sammy]

Glad to see i have been nominated up front for the hitman if the returns are bad.

Ive only got the one vote

EMPTY YIR PM BOX LAD

[yeboah]

I no that this post is slightly of subject as it does not relate to Lanarkshire fed business and i apologise in advance ,Last Year the solway fed agm voted to race east and during and after the meeting many many members said that no way would they compete with the fed because of the selected race route ,however as the season progressed the same said fanciers did compete and competed very well (because we were the only show in town),the season was fairly successful and considering the terrible weather experienced with very strong east winds for the old birds ,and south west winds for the youngsters some members had a good season whilst others did not ,I for one have never in forty years of racing lost as many good old birds ,I put this down to some very strong east winds where fed members had birds reported from these races as far away as benbecula of the west coast of Scotland ,many members in the fed have stated that they have a wonderful team of yearlings for next year but do not state that they never raced after the third Yb race 70 + mls maximum ,now that is the fanciers choice we pay the bills and we make the decisions,With old birds on the west route after leyland the year previous i only dropped 2,one of the very best in our federation is jimmy dalgliesh from ecclefechan who at the most will only winter a team of 20 birds yet he at present owns a bird that has scored 1st and 3rd open SNFC from France .Jimmy races his youngsters from the first to last race irrespective of route or weather survival of the fittest and the best ,how many of us can boast of this record ,don't you think gentlemen that we also create our own pitfalls by wintering far to many untried unraced pigeons regardless of direction and perhaps if we all followed jimmy Dals methods pigeon racing would be in a healthier position,the honest truth is the skies are full of falcons from north south east or west a pigeons life nowadays is not guaranteed ,enjoy them when we have them and when they are on song push them to there limit ,as sadly one toss next year and they are gone,if we could put as much effort in defeating the BOP lobby as we do our own we would be taking a huge step forward in this wonderful sport of ours and our fathers before us .

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

I no that this post is slightly of subject as it does not relate to Lanarkshire fed business and i apologise in advance ,Last Year the solway fed agm voted to race east and during and after the meeting many many members said that no way would they compete with the fed because of the selected race route ,however as the season progressed the same said fanciers did compete and competed very well (because we were the only show in town),the season was fairly successful and considering the terrible weather experienced with very strong east winds for the old birds ,and south west winds for the youngsters some members had a good season whilst others did not ,I for one have never in forty years of racing lost as many good old birds ,I put this down to some very strong east winds where fed members had birds reported from these races as far away as benbecula of the west coast of Scotland ,many members in the fed have stated that they have a wonderful team of yearlings for next year but do not state that they never raced after the third Yb race 70 + mls maximum ,now that is the fanciers choice we pay the bills and we make the decisions,With old birds on the west route after leyland the year previous i only dropped 2,one of the very best in our federation is jimmy dalgliesh from ecclefechan who at the most will only winter a team of 20 birds yet he at present owns a bird that has scored 1st and 3rd open SNFC from France .Jimmy races his youngsters from the first to last race irrespective of route or weather survival of the fittest and the best ,how many of us can boast of this record ,don't you think gentlemen that we also create our own pitfalls by wintering far to many untried unraced pigeons regardless of direction and perhaps if we all followed jimmy Dals methods pigeon racing would be in a healthier position,the honest truth is the skies are full of falcons from north south east or west a pigeons life nowadays is not guaranteed ,enjoy them when we have them and when they are on song push them to there limit ,as sadly one toss next year and they are gone,if we could put as much effort in defeating the BOP lobby as we do our own we would be taking a huge step forward in this wonderful sport of ours and our fathers before us .

 

Some wise words

[Guest KING BILLY]

I jus t hope that we can get a bit of good weather to star with then we can all come on here and have a go at tam and Gareth or just send the hit man round but we can't just say that that we are going to get wiped out before we get them there

wee are the pep champs and all the dumy tit bragraid can suck thare thumps after spiting thare stoppers out at the agm lol

[HOMER49]

wee are the pep champs and all the dumy tit bragraid can suck thare thumps after spiting thare stoppers out at the agm lol

 

Hi

Just for you Tam

Looking for names to sign a sisyphean

with regards rule 61 paragraphs 9c and 9d

and we are back down the EAST

Cheers

Homer 49

[REDROCKET]

Hi

Just for you Tam

Looking for names to sign a sisyphean

with regards rule 61 paragraphs 9c and 9d

and we are back down the EAST

Cheers

Homer 49

hi homer it surprises me that you want to race from the east as the carluke birds have farther to fly than most, every week there's dozens of birds fly over us heading in the carluke direction thats via coatbridge/lenzie/m8 ect

[tyson]

it seems to me that there is no democracy left in the pigeon game its not the hawks rader or whatsowever that is destroying the sport it is pigeon men themselves with the bickering and back stabbing that goes on if a fed or club have a democratic vote then abide with that vote dont go and look at ways to over turn the vote of the people who are prepared to go to meetings and cast there vote so just accept the vote of the majority and get on with racing your pigeons

[Guest bigda]

i think in fairness, the race program should be discussed in clubs

and then, deligates getting together and to report back as what

was then on offer, after the west or east direction was made. them there would be races made out.to suit the majority of the fed.

[Roland]

hi homer it surprises me that you want to race from the east as the carluke birds have farther to fly than most, every week there's dozens of birds fly over us heading in the carluke direction thats via coatbridge/lenzie/m8 ect

 

Certainly go a long way towards that granted. Outside of following the leader, and whinging, most shoot themselves in the foot daily.

Own worse eminy is very apt and when a 'Good thing' is tried it is smothered with self promoted ego's and needless and ofty stupid scenario's.

The very worst thing that is oft repeated is 'I would, ... But you know the other wouldn't'. Meaning they leave dicesions to others - then whinge - and worse use it as reason for not attending meetings and supporting Clubs / Feds etc. down the line. Won't support 'Fund - raising' for instance yet want good 'Prize money paid out' and Cheaper birdage... but won't contribute to a 'Car Sale, a breeder buyer,a moot etc. etc. Ah is the fanciers Fickled... you can take it to the bank.

Know it is a little off this subject, and yet very much involves this subject.

I's say 'I they can't help basketing race nights... leave their birds at club for them to take back ... we refused theirs once and gave them half hour to sort their birds out ... worked wonders, but I was not asked to be president again lol. If they don't support 'Fundings', then not eligible for Cards and Prize money. etc. etc. But alas alack, as fully paid up members they ARE entitled to the same rights and priviledges as every one else.... mores the pity.

[frank-123]

hi homer it surprises me that you want to race from the east as the carluke birds have farther to fly than most, every week there's dozens of birds fly over us heading in the carluke direction thats via coatbridge/lenzie/m8 ect

 

guess he would like his birds back safely and remember he is not competing against coatbridge he is trying to beat carluke members.

On the west route the birds will still head over to the east side as the normal westerly winds dictate the way the birds will arrive into Lanarkshire.

Oh and for all the guys trying to beat the Macaloneys in Coatbridge just remember he gets more overfly now we are racing down the west.

[geordie1234]

CCan someone give me the pros and cons of east and west? I honestly don't know having not had the expierance that's why i never voted

[nogin]

CCan someone give me the pros and cons of east and west? I honestly don't know having not had the expierance that's why i never voted

 

 

PRO..EAST CON...WEST :emoticon-0136-giggle: