K J Young Posted October 25, 2011 Report Posted October 25, 2011 I would be very surprised if ballochmyle & ayrshire change to the west route next year , but you never no .
frank-123 Posted October 25, 2011 Report Posted October 25, 2011 I would be very surprised if ballochmyle & ayrshire change to the west route next year , but you never no . aye hopefully they will stick to the SNFC races too
lastdrop Posted October 25, 2011 Report Posted October 25, 2011 The Solway will come to any such meeting Why only A west of Scotland Amal. Pigeon racing is a dying ART. Somehow we must get together into larger groups to continue this noble sport.
dal2 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 Why only A west of Scotland Amal. Pigeon racing is a dying ART. Somehow we must get together into larger groups to continue this noble sport. We have, the SNFC!
frank-123 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 (edited) Why only A west of Scotland Amal. Pigeon racing is a dying ART. Somehow we must get together into larger groups to continue this noble sport. We have, the SNFC! Wish you guys had been at our race meeting agm Lanarkshire decided (never mind the route) to go against the snfc duplication races financial madness IMO Obviously with Lanarkshire going back to the west route, how would the west of Scotland guys feel about the following race program for the WOSA:-? Old Birds 26th May - Stafford 213 miles,Joint convoying only 2nd June - Wolaston 238 miles Yearling open/duplication race9th June - Cheltenham 270 miles, Joint convoying only 16th June - TBA possibly Portsmouth 355 miles??, open/duplication race7th July - TBA possibly Carantan 458 miles, open/ duplications race Young birds. 25th August - Leyland 146 miles, Joint convoying only.1st September - Stafford 213 miles Open/duplication race. Gareth Portsmouth is in the middle of the country if you want to fly west surely poole or portland is more in line of flight of the rest of the west route race points Edited October 26, 2011 by frank-123
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 Wish you guys had been at our race meeting agm Lanarkshire decided (never mind the route) to go against the snfc duplication races financial madness IMO . Gareth Portsmouth is in the middle of the country if you want to fly west surely poole or portland is more in line of flight of the rest of the west route race points Frank as the picture shows below its more about the line of flight. Also Portsmouth is more forgiving than Portland especially in an East wind. Anyway Portsmouth should apease the anti west brigade.
frank-123 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 Frank as the picture shows below its more about the line of flight. Also Portsmouth is more forgiving than Portland especially in an East wind. Anyway Portsmouth should apease the anti west brigade. as you can see poole is more in line with your proposal for carentan why you want to jump 40 mile east is beyond a east lover like myself
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 as you can see poole is more in line with your proposal for carentan why you want to jump 40 mile east is beyond a east lover like myself If you wish to propose Poole then i dont think it will be hard to get someone to second you. Below has a nice ring to itFrank Welsh, 1st Lanarkshire fed Poole, you know you cant wait
JohnQuinn Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 Well i don't have an appetite for a WOSA, the last time it was organised whoever the officials were decided to fall out before the 1997 Yb race. We topped the Fed and had the fastest bird into Scotland on the day but never got so much as a ticket acknowledging our birds performance. I HAVE NO DOUBT THEY WILL FALL OUT AGAIN!!!
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 Well i don't have an appetite for a WOSA, the last time it was organised whoever the officials were decided to fall out before the 1997 Yb race. We topped the Fed and had the fastest bird into Scotland on the day but never got so much as a ticket acknowledging our birds performance. I HAVE NO DOUBT THEY WILL FALL OUT AGAIN!!!You may have had a bad experience to give you this view point but a lot of things have changed in that time, this includes, change of officials, Haulage/fuel costs and Falling entries with wagons going down the road only 25% full. Maybe not this year or the year after, but it will come to fruition in the not too distant future.JMO
JohnQuinn Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 You may have had a bad experience to give you this view point but a lot of things have changed in that time, this includes, change of officials, Haulage/fuel costs and Falling entries with wagons going down the road only 25% full. Maybe not this year or the year after, but it will come to fruition in the not too distant future.JMO I agree with your assessment Gareth and i wouldn't try to Prevent it but neither would i participate in its organisation.
WEENANN1 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 say it again, lanarkshire fukd it already by going west .
frank-123 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 You may have had a bad experience to give you this view point but a lot of things have changed in that time, this includes, change of officials, Haulage/fuel costs and Falling entries with wagons going down the road only 25% full. Maybe not this year or the year after, but it will come to fruition in the not too distant future.JMO Can't believe lanarkshire had that in place with the snfc and we tossed it out the window at the race agm a few weeks back Now we are looking to re start an amalgamation race to bail Lanarkshire out Never hear so much bull 1st fed Poole Lanarkshire fed would be good but I will be trying for 1st west section snfc Eastbourne instead
K J Young Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 when was the strathclyde amal started.
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 Can't believe lanarkshire had that in place with the snfc and we tossed it out the window at the race agm a few weeks back Now we are looking to re start an amalgamation race to bail Lanarkshire out Never hear so much bull 1st fed Poole Lanarkshire fed would be good but I will be trying for 1st west section snfc Eastbourne insteadEastbourne, bloody Eastbourne, name something positive that this race has brought to the SNFC, can you not see that the gold cup race is getting killed because of the inclusion of this race into the National program.
WEENANN1 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 Can't believe lanarkshire had that in place with the snfc and we tossed it out the window at the race agm a few weeks back Now we are looking to re start an amalgamation race to bail Lanarkshire out Never hear so much bull 1st fed Poole Lanarkshire fed would be good but I will be trying for 1st west section snfc Eastbourne instead very true Frank but the club fliers have taken over.watch them return east by start of August.im not long in the game but had livestock all my life,i cant beleive how selfish and stupid folk can be in the racing sport
knoxjn Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 this sounds like a cracking idea the east had it a few years ago and it was fantastic politics killed it off go for it guys
lanarkshire lad Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 Eastbourne, bloody Eastbourne, name something positive that this race has brought to the SNFC, can you not see that the gold cup race is getting killed because of the inclusion of this race into the National program.[/quote Disagree here Eastbourne is a super Inland National for the members of the SNFC and has no negative effect on the birdage of the Gold Cup. Get rid of ypres and the other inland nat then the Gold cup race might benefit.
K J Young Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 when was the strathclyde amal started.we had it before , and it was f..ked up to
JohnQuinn Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 when was the strathclyde amal started. I believe it started in 1996 Kenny but they fell lout during the 1997 season, as if by magic there was no more mention of it, or a TRUE explanation to the members as to why they fell out.
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 Eastbourne, bloody Eastbourne, name something positive that this race has brought to the SNFC, can you not see that the gold cup race is getting killed because of the inclusion of this race into the National program.[/quote Disagree here Eastbourne is a super Inland National for the members of the SNFC and has no negative effect on the birdage of the Gold Cup. Get rid of ypres and the other inland nat then the Gold cup race might benefit.Jim there a lot of members who want a SNFC diploma, the problem is they want to take the easy option of there pigeon getting one, this is done by sending to a race at 387 miles instead of 550 miles. This eastbourne race comes 1-3 days before marketing for the Gold cup and when Eastbourne is sticky one which it has been in the last 4 then members take the easy option by sending to Ypres 7 days later because they have no belief in there pigeons after they didn't do well in Eastbourne. Jmo TIME TO GIVE THE GOLD CUP THE PROTECTION AND RESPECT THAT IT DESERVES.
JohnQuinn Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 ame='lanarkshire lad' date='26 October 2011 - 17:03 PM' timestamp='1319645034' post='693913'] Jim there a lot of members who want a SNFC diploma, the problem is they want to take the easy option of there pigeon getting one, this is done by sending to a race at 387 miles instead of 550 miles. This eastbourne race comes 1-3 days before marketing for the Gold cup and when Eastbourne is sticky one which it has been in the last 4 then members take the easy option by sending to Ypres 7 days later because they have no belief in there pigeons after they didn't do well in Eastbourne. Jmo TIME TO GIVE THE GOLD CUP THE PROTECTION AND RESPECT THAT IT DESERVES. WHAT HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH FORMING AN AMALGAMATION? you's are WAY off topic.
K J Young Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 I believe it started in 1996 Kenny but they fell lout during the 1997 season, as if by magic there was no more mention of it, or a TRUE explanation to the members as to why they fell out.As far as i remember , it was to do with which fed transported the birds & cost, I think the last race was from salisbury which i had the privalige to be convoyer of around 6500 birds.
JohnQuinn Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 As far as i remember , it was to do with which fed transported the birds & cost, I think the last race was from salisbury which i had the privalige to be convoyer of around 6500 birds. I was led to believe that Lanarkshire gave up the race controlling Kenny, which was against our constitution but Andrew Shearer who was our president at the time was prepared to give it up to get the thing up and running. I don't have any real insight to how things started or ended but as far as i know Lanarkshire were keen to keep it going. I am not saying this is correct, its only what i've been told in snippets over the years.
K J Young Posted October 26, 2011 Report Posted October 26, 2011 I was led to believe that Lanarkshire gave up the race controlling Kenny, which was against our constitution but Andrew Shearer who was our president at the time was prepared to give it up to get the thing up and running. I don't have any real insight to how things started or ended but as far as i know Lanarkshire were keen to keep it going. I am not saying this is correct, its only what i've been told in snippets over the years. Its to long a story for this , the first time a see you . i tell you why it stopped. That year it was A Durning that was the race controller i worked with. What a man. He phoned me on the sunday evening after a two day holdover and asked me how the birds where looking , i replieid their doing fine andy , been out for a fly and back in the baskets fed and watered ready for tommorow , he said thats fine son and speak to you in the morning. half an hour later he phoned me back, relising what i had said , you can imagine what he said to me .
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