JohnQuinn Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Its to long a story for this , the first time a see you . i tell you why it stopped. That year it was A Durning that was the race controller i worked with. What a man. He phoned me on the sunday evening after a two day holdover and asked me how the birds where looking , i replieid their doing fine andy , been out for a fly and back in the baskets fed and watered ready for tommorow , he said thats fine son and speak to you in the morning. half an hour later he phoned me back, relising what i had said , you can imagine what he said to me . Cracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank-123 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Eastbourne, bloody Eastbourne, name something positive that this race has brought to the SNFC, can you not see that the gold cup race is getting killed because of the inclusion of this race into the National program. Money Good returns these birds are future channel birds But do the members want a gold cup race or an inland national sadly Gareth you know the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Don't think I'll be back at an inland snfc race now the fed are going to the coast but then again I'll suit myself where I send my doos as I always do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie1234 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Doo racing is awfy complicated getting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Eastbourne, bloody Eastbourne, name something positive that this race has brought to the SNFC, can you not see that the gold cup race is getting killed because of the inclusion of this race into the National program.Think Gareth that it is the first inland race that has hit the Gold Cup race, wont be sending my candidates to it next year, Dont mind Eastboune and Ypres is a race that is taking off and can give some a first taste of Channel racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank-123 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Don't think I'll be back at an inland snfc race now the fed are going to the coast but then again I'll suit myself where I send my doos as I always doJust like we all do we have a choice where we send our birds Think Gareth that it is the first inland race that has hit the Gold Cup race, wont be sending my candidates to it next year, Dont mind Eastboune and Ypres is a race that is taking off and can give some a first taste of Channel racing.Correct marlbourgh killed the gold cup entry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Money Good returns these birds are future channel birds But do the members want a gold cup race or an inland national sadly Gareth you know the answerStuff the money its about looking after the heritage of the club, if these inland nationals keep going it will be a middle distance club with every tom dick and harry having dookits full of Vandebelees etc that take a nose bleed after flying more than 10 hours. Returns in the last 4 years have not been good Frank (happy enough myself) but for a couple of years that i was doing the ETS at Uddingston, fanciers would all good intention sending doos to the Gold cup before Eastbourne, but after the race it is then a different story as self preservation mode clicks in and they start thinking about having pigeons for there nestboxes the following year, instead they will still send 7 days later to the Ypres race because as well as it being a shorter National race, it is also there club & fed race, 3 birds with the one stone so to speak. Look back and you will find that since the inclusion of Eastbourne a week before the Gold Cup race, the birdages have fell from 2000 + to just over a 1000, this is not a coincidence. All the other national/prestige clubs in the UK have a break of 2-3 weeks between each of there races, what do we do?? we cram them all round the Gold cup race with no room to breathe. Anyone know were i can get some good Vandebelees :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novo10 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Stuff the money its about looking after the heritage of the club, if these inland nationals keep going it will be a middle distance club with every tom dick and harry having dookits full of Vandebelees etc that take a nose bleed after flying more than 10 hours. Returns in the last 4 years have not been good Frank (happy enough myself) but for a couple of years that i was doing the ETS at Uddingston, fanciers would all good intention sending doos to the Gold cup before Eastbourne, but after the race it is then a different story as self preservation mode clicks in and they start thinking about having pigeons for there nestboxes the following year, instead they will still send 7 days later to the Ypres race because as well as it being a shorter National race, it is also there club & fed race, 3 birds with the one stone so to speak. Look back and you will find that since the inclusion of Eastbourne a week before the Gold Cup race, the birdages have fell from 2000 + to just over a 1000, this is not a coincidence. All the other national/prestige clubs in the UK have a break of 2-3 weeks between each of there races, what do we do?? we cram them all round the Gold cup race with no room to breathe. Anyone know were i can get some good Vandebelees :lol: your 100% right gareth do away with eastbourne and keep 1st inland race this is the one that put the pigeons right jmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanarkshire lad Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 your 100% right gareth do away with eastbourne and keep 1st inland race this is the one that put the pigeons right jmoWell make the first inland nat EASTBOURNE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K J Young Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 I could be missing the point , but before the inland nats were introduced did the feds not have races from the same distance , and if the feds go back to inland fed racing the same will happen , we will get bad races from time to time . But then the snfc won,t get the blame .As a said earlier 6500 doo,s 10 year ago from the west coast feds at the longest inland race , the same Birdage from the whole Of Scotland at the same distance now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJWa Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Well make the first inland nat EASTBOURNE. how far is that to lanarkshirebecause its about 500 miles to the guys flying in the furtermost parts of the north sectionand with a june 6th or roundabout there dateits a struggle as it is to get the miles under their beltsby then marlborough around 440eastbourne around 500ypres around 520 leicester y/b around 350 no short national races in the north sectionthey are still a good test up here for future channel birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 I could be missing the point , but before the inland nats were introduced did the feds not have races from the same distance , and if the feds go back to inland fed racing the same will happen , we will get bad races from time to time . But then the snfc won,t get the blame .As a said earlier 6500 doo,s 10 year ago from the west coast feds at the longest inland race , the same Birdage from the whole Of Scotland at the same distance now What use to happen Kenny was when feds were going down the road thereselves they liberated from different locations at different times, one or two of the feds would get a bad race but you always had other feds that got a good race and that kept the entry up in the gold cup race. Like you say the SNFC are getting the blame for the bad returns from the Inland nationals and this creates a negativity for the races that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank-123 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 We can all hark back to the good auld days but they have gone They doo men I spoke to have no interest in going to the gold cup now if the snfc drop the inland nationals and only fly three races over 500 mileSo called wos amalgamations will take up races from Portsmouth and carentan what's the difference ? Gold cup for me is the number one race sadly not too many have the same opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQuinn Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 If there are any more posts put on this thread that do not relate to it i will remove them. I suggest you's start your own thread about SNFC business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 West Of Scotland Amal thats what the thread was started for, please keep to this topic, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec guinness Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 West Of Scotland Amal thats what the thread was started for, please keep to this topic, thanks nearly 2000 posts and thats the first one moved which imo was about amalgamations :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQuinn Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 nearly 2000 posts and thats the first one moved which imo was about amalgamations :( It was about the SNFC John, the thread was started to get a feeling of whether there is a mileage in a WOSA but there was no mention of it in the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McKay Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 nearly 2000 posts and thats the first one moved which imo was about amalgamations :( 90 Replies 2,058 Views Not 2000 posts only views but it's about an AMAL not SNFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 90 Replies 2,058 Views Not 2000 posts only views but it's about an AMAL not SNFCThink John is talkin aboot his personaal total of posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McKay Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Think John is talkin aboot his personaal total of posts Oh OK funny I cannot see post removed :emoticon-0179-headbang: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec guinness Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Think John is talkin aboot his personaal total of posts thanks m8 :) as i said amalgamations in my opinion were 20 - 30 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec guinness Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 It was about the SNFC John, the thread was started to get a feeling of whether there is a mileage in a WOSA but there was no mention of it in the post. john the last few years the "WEST OF SCOTLAND AMALGAMATION" have been racing in conjunction with the SNFC,federations ayrshire,ballochmyle,renfrew,midland and lanarkshire.???????i think it has been working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQuinn Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 john the last few years the "WEST OF SCOTLAND AMALGAMATION" have been racing in conjunction with the SNFC,federations ayrshire,ballochmyle,renfrew,midland and lanarkshire.???????i think it has been working. Yes John but that is SNFC business nothing to do with organising and getting competition between the different organisations. Also it wouldn't necessarily be the case that the New Amalgamation IF formed would convoy with the SNFC!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank-123 Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 john the last few years the "WEST OF SCOTLAND AMALGAMATION" have been racing in conjunction with the SNFC,federations ayrshire,ballochmyle,renfrew,midland and lanarkshire.???????i think it has been working. ah someone who think's like me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 ah someone who think's like me How on earth has it been working?? These inland duplication races were designed to get more members to send across the water, this has not happened. You two lads might think it is acceptable that the Gold cup race only gets just over a 1000 doos but I don't. In Scotland there are 3500 members, now from entries sent to the Gold cup this relates to one pigeon from every three fanciers. Status Quo is not an option for 2012.Members prioritizing an Inland national over the Gold cup which this club is all about should be strung up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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