2Nd Day Youngsters

[THE FIFER]

I was missing three. Two of them are sat waiting on the loft, one with a damaged leg. It was my first ever race, got 15 back from 16.

 

Hope they work back for everyone.

 

Lee

well done m8, and hope lots more birds make it home,

[DJWa]

just got my 1st one from thornton

a bit tired but not too bad

still hope

[St Finnan Loft]

Following quite a few posts yesterday about huge losses of youngsters from yesterdays races, how many are returning today?

 

Here is hoping you guys get more back today.

 

The Champion pigeon is driven by an instinctive sense of purpose shaped by evolution its sole focus is the journey, its undivided intent is to reach its loft, eggs, mate. It is driven by determination and has the ability not to be distracted from seeking and finding it’s home. It is not deterred by a feeling of fear in a strange unwanted environment this in turn stirs it to show the courage and ability others are not born with. I personally believe champions pigeons are born and only require the correct environment and opportunity to show the result of evolution. Evidence now shows that migratory birds have flocks with ages that vary from a few months to 10yrs and some 30yrs or more.

 

Yet from an early age pigeon fanciers divide the young from the old exercising and training the young on their own even, daily exercise around the loft is done on their own and not with the old birds. I firmly believe a great number of young birds lost are not allowed to mature into the champions they could and should be as they were put under too much strain at an early age. This seems to be against nature’s way, as the young are taught by their elders in the wild. Could this be a reason for the massive losses we are having at present?

 

Bottom line is no one knows for sure what has been affecting our birds ability to navigate. We just know there have been more and more hard races and greater losses. We may not discover what the problem or combinations of problems are, but surely allowing the young birds to gain confidence while flying in a mixed age group can only help them mature.

[tiger]

The Champion pigeon is driven by an instinctive sense of purpose shaped by evolution its sole focus is the journey, its undivided intent is to reach its loft, eggs, mate. It is driven by determination and has the ability not to be distracted from seeking and finding it’s home. It is not deterred by a feeling of fear in a strange unwanted environment this in turn stirs it to show the courage and ability others are not born with. I personally believe champions pigeons are born and only require the correct environment and opportunity to show the result of evolution. Evidence now shows that migratory birds have flocks with ages that vary from a few months to 10yrs and some 30yrs or more.

 

Yet from an early age pigeon fanciers divide the young from the old exercising and training the young on their own even, daily exercise around the loft is done on their own and not with the old birds. I firmly believe a great number of young birds lost are not allowed to mature into the champions they could and should be as they were put under too much strain at an early age. This seems to be against nature’s way, as the young are taught by their elders in the wild. Could this be a reason for the massive losses we are having at present?

 

Bottom line is no one knows for sure what has been affecting our birds ability to navigate. We just know there have been more and more hard races and greater losses. We may not discover what the problem or combinations of problems are, but surely allowing the young birds to gain confidence while flying in a mixed age group can only help them mature.

best post ive read on here

[greenlands]

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"Yet from an early age pigeon fanciers divide the young from the old exercising and training the young on their own even, daily exercise around the loft is done on their own and not with the old birds. I firmly believe a great number of young birds lost are not allowed to mature into the champions they could and should be as they were put under too much strain at an early age. This seems to be against nature’s way, as the young are taught by their elders in the wild. Could this be a reason for the massive losses we are having at present?"

 

You put a great post up there mate BUT, having been among pigeons for near enough 60 years if what you are saying ie. not letting your young birds fly/train with the old birds as nature would probably do,how comes when I used to breed 30 young birds, fly the full programe and end up with 24/25 youngens left that natures way wasn't the norm then.I've never flew my youngens with oldens.

This weeks race 31 away 17 home and I take it you don't live in Cumbria that's the fears of all fears for racing pigeons

with BOP on every cliff or mountain side.

never the less a good post.

 

Lindsay

[Guest dodgydaz]

sent 11 to the race yesterday, only got 3 back yesterday,

had 3 reported today 2 of which were not far from racepoint, despite all the training they had

[billt]

In reply to that good post by St. Finnan, I have 50+ pigeons on open loft and young are not taken away, last year I put rings on 15 and they are all still here, unraced,This year I have a couple of new stock pairs so the young are flying out on their own to a new loft about 30yds from the others and they don't mix when flying, out of 11 youngsters moved to this loft I am left with 4, not raced and not been in a basket, all failing to come home from ranging and I'm sure it is BOP and not getting lost.

[Taylorsloft]

wot do you think went wrong? seems alot of birds missing bcoz of a north wind? sounds more like clashing? jmo...

 

 

i am not sure what happen i do no it was a very strong wind in aberdeen yesterday were the young birds ready for such a strong wind on there first race ?

[Taylorsloft]

o this morning still 18 missing from 20 /only 5 home from the club 70 pigeons the wind is stronger today /all the had work just went down the tubes

 

 

got 1 more still 17 down

[greenlands]

Just got another,that's 18/31.Poor bugger.

[blucock]

Whilst the thought behind the post is commendable - every year we breed 8-10 latbred s which are left to come away "on their own" they eat,sleep,feed,excercise with the OB (and then the old cocks after separation) right through unless they become amorous hens. These have produced some hard to lose birds, esp the hens...

[big blue bar]

sent 10 to stiling having some douts about the race point and got 3 on the day and 1 this morning . kept most of the team at home .

[AR]

sent 10 to stiling having some douts about the race point and got 3 on the day and 1 this morning . kept most of the team at home .

What time did you'se liberate at Stirling

[BLACK W F]

how many are you missing Alan?

from a training toss on thursday still 24 short these where well schooled youngins 6 home on the night 6 next morning and thats the lot from aprox 30 mls my mate has aroond 20 out of his 50 just pure crap

[jamesb]

sent 23 coldstream central fed 9 on the day 4 today.anybody else got bad returns from this race.

[Guest kslicker]

sent 23 coldstream central fed 9 on the day 4 today.anybody else got bad returns from this race.

 

 

Interesting comment St. Finnan. I can't help think it's something in the atmosphere though. We had smash races in Ireland on the same day. Returns were better the previous week and it was raining. Maybe the BOP have better visability on sunny days and hit more flocks.

[jimmy w]

reading with intrest wee trained the ybs tuesday clear blue skies sun and not a cloud 20 miles and found the pigeons struggle to navigate ,all home but took an hour and a half no more trainig in days like this for us, ps do u think they need a bit of cloud cover

[Guest IB]

I got nothing in the days following our Coldstream race last Saturday, then 1 dropped at 2045 on Wednesday 27th , 5 days later. Only things wrong with him are he's well down, and there's very dark flesh either side of keel, which I think may be muscle damage from flying many more miles than he was 'supposed' to.

[john cumming]

yes John one big P*** off where have they all gone something deff not right just noo all mine wing stamped and not 1 single youngin reported

thats the way it goes i suppose

 

 

snap, same here

 

 

 

 

john