sapper756 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) What are memebers thoughts/opinions on the SNFC Inland races, are they good for the SNFC? Or are they having a possitive or negative affect on the birdage for the Chanel races? Please feel free to commenthttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/scotland.gif THANK YOUhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/scotland.gif Edited June 12, 2011 by sapper756
Guest stb- Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 every time ye get a bad yin the gold cup entries doon ,, so a wid do away way them and concentrate on channel racing
alec guinness Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 What are memebers thoughts/opinions on the SNFC Inland races, are they good for the SNFC? Or are they having a possitive or negative affect on the birdage for the Chanel races? Please feel free to comment THANK YOU think this question should be for the end of season not after a poor start to the national season from Marlborough. :)
Guest bigda Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 every time ye get a bad yin the gold cup entries doon ,, so a wid do away way them and concentrate on channel racing would be the most sensable thing to do rab and having a special bird sale or 2 to up the prize moneys, would put a smile on all that are content to fly it, yes i know there are ones that dont fly for anything as they say, but the ones that gamble do, and out way the ones that dont,
walterbmasson Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 HOW MUCH WILL GO TO THE MESSEC GOLD CUP THIS YEAR I WOULD SAY A RECORD LOW FROM NEARLY 9,000 BIRDS TO MAYBE 5 OR 600 BIRDS WHAT WOULD YOU SAY RAB BALE OOT TIME I KNOW 2 RESIGINING THIS YEAR HOW MANY MORE
blaz Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 think it is GOOD to have inland nats,as for birds for gold cup race it is simple don,t send them to inland races .
JADE Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 think it is GOOD to have inland nats,as for birds for gold cup race it is simple don,t send them to inland races . I agree. the members keep voting for them every year. Many of the long distance specialists dont send their gold cup birds to the first inland race if their federation has an alternative race. Obviously a bad race has some bearing on the entries but the same could happen in a club race. The ultimate decision is with the individual fancier, if the weather doesnt look good keep them in the loft
Guest stb- Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 think it is GOOD to have inland nats,as for birds for gold cup race it is simple don,t send them to inland races .EXACTLY SEND THE YEARLINGS
Guest IB Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 Inland Nationals are very popular with the members, the birdage shows that. Members do not need to send their channel candidates to these races, but do, by choice. Mine were in Marlborough. I thought I knew the risk sending , but I never thought for a minute they wouldn't come home. I now know some very exceptional birds were lost there. I've been very lucky. I've not been very lucky with yearlings at Inland Nationals, and this year I deliberately kept them out, except for one hen which is going next week. Yearlings become next year's 2 y-os, , so throwing them away this year will affect candidates for the channel the following year. JMO
blaz Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 at £2 per bird well over 4500 birds the inland nationals are hear to stay ROLL ON EASTBOURNE
VMS Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 The SNFC was founded on long distance racing,maybe the long distance fanciers should vote with their feet and join the SNRPC which is more distance oriented.???????????????????
Guest bigda Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 The SNFC was founded on long distance racing,maybe the long distance fanciers should vote with their feet and join the SNRPC which is more distance oriented.???????????????????you have hit a nerve there vincent
robbiedoo. Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 think it is GOOD to have inland nats,as for birds for gold cup race it is simple don,t send them to inland races . I SHARE THIS OPINION EVERYMAN TO THEIR OWN :emoticon-0140-rofl: :emoticon-0140-rofl:
JADE Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 The SNFC was founded on long distance racing,maybe the long distance fanciers should vote with their feet and join the SNRPC which is more distance oriented.??????????????????? not sure how you can justify your statement. snrpc have, Reims, Fontenay (assume it is Tours equivalent) and Arras which is shorter than Aberdeen fly from Eastbourne. Is Saintes still in the programme?
robbiedoo. Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 not sure how you can justify your statement. snrpc have, Reims, Fontenay (assume it is Tours equivalent) and Arras which is shorter than Aberdeen fly from Eastbourne. Is Saintes still in the programme? EASTBOURNE IS 489 MILE TO ME IN FRASERBURGH
alec guinness Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 The SNFC was founded on long distance racing,maybe the long distance fanciers should vote with their feet and join the SNRPC which is more distance oriented.??????????????????? yes you are right Vincent,but with less fanciers about today the SNFC caters for every fancier in scotland with something for everyone,6 races between 300-600 miles and a young bird race,definately some thing for everyone. :)
Henrik Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 The SNFC was founded on long distance racing,maybe the long distance fanciers should vote with their feet and join the SNRPC which is more distance oriented.???????????????????The SNRPC was founded to allow people who could no longer fly with the SNFC due to being suspended from the SHU an avenue to fly their pigeons from France and for no other reason.
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 every time ye get a bad yin the gold cup entries doon ,, so a wid do away way them and concentrate on channel racing Yes inland nationals must be disposed of if long distance racing from France is to survive. Too many eggs in the one basket springs to mind and when you get the races that we have had in the last couple of years then channel entries get obliterated. Inland nationals were suppose to encourage more fanciers into the SNFC and in turn for them to send them to the races on which the SNFC was built on, i.e.France, HAS THIS HAPPENED NO
Delboy Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 Yes inland nationals must be disposed of if long distance racing from France is to survive. Too many eggs in the one basket springs to mind and when you get the races that we have had in the last couple of years then channel entries get obliterated. Inland nationals were suppose to encourage more fanciers into the SNFC and in turn for them to send them to the races on which the SNFC was built on, i.e.France, HAS THIS HAPPENED NO I think there should be one inland nat and this is only for yearlings.I totally agree with Gareth , the inland races are not doing what they were supposed to do and are now taking birdage away from the main events.
Henrik Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 Would have to agree only 1 inland race for yearlings from Eastbourne or a racepoint on the Southcoast on the weekend before the Gold Cup race.
bigjamie Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 i agree with delboy i think they should have one inland national for yearlings only
walterbmasson Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 I think there should be one inland nat and this is only for yearlings.I totally agree with Gareth , the inland races are not doing what they were supposed to do and are now taking birdage away from the main events. derick when the fraserburgh was one club 40+ members the thing was to have a go at the distance i and wilson noble used to take the NATIONAL CLOCKS THROUGH TO ABERDEEN SOME TIMES THIRTY CLOCKS BUT MOST FANCIERS JUST KEPT ANY THING TO 12 TO 24 BIRDS YOU GOT THE FEW THAT JUST COULD NOT HELP THEM SELVES AND WAS CALLED MOB FLYERS but when the big races from france came roon every boady came doon with there single entry sending 3 was a big team and the performances put up speaks for them selves but there was so much interest in the NATIONAL AT THAT TIME the birdage was 2,000 to nearly 9,000 birds but the sad thing is the THE S.N.F.C has a lot in putting fanciers oot the spot by these stupid rules if you dont send in a resignation letter your banned from club racing also SNFC there was none of thes rules when this club was the speak before every year what have you got lined up for the gold cup and the other GREAT RACES WE HAD no wonder the NATIONAL IS SLIDING SO FAST there was none of these rules if you dont send in a letter of resignation your banned for life when you have not got a bird to send to the race crazy as the following year these same fanciers would be putting birds again but are now forced to give there sport up just because a nut case makes a stupid suggestion as above (IF YOU ARE NOT JOINED BY 1ST O APRIL YOU ARE RESIGNED IF YOU DECIDE YOU HAVE A BIRD THAT YOU THINK CAN COMPETE PAY THE PENELTY OF £6 IS THIS TO SIMPLE and gareth this inland races are damageing this once great club in fact it wont go on much longer if some thing is not done about it i must be a bit o a nut case rambling on @ on about it but all these plonkers that think there is too NATIONALS is living in coo coo land why can too clubs sending 100 to 200 birds away and call it a NATIONAL SURLY A SIMPLE LETTER ASKING FOR A MEETING AND TRY AND THRASH THIS SHU BUSINESS OOT and at least we can call it a NATIONAL OPEN FOR WHOLE O SCOTLAND and yes danny prise money into all sections would give a big hand in re- kindeling interest in SNFC
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 Inland Nationals are very popular with the members, the birdage shows that. Members do not need to send their channel candidates to these races, but do, by choice. Spot on Bruno,nobody is forced to send birds to any race they do not want to send them to,it is down to each and every individual as to where there birds go and the decision is theirs and theirs alone.
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 The interest of the majority of fanciers has really changed in the last 20 or so years.There was a time in Scotland when channel racing was the be all and end all.Not so much now unfortunately So obviously the SNFC have felt the need to cater for this with these inland Nationals.Which are not only to the detrement of their later channel events,the original soul purpose for the formation of the club,but they are also having a huge hit on federation birdages.These federations and combines need the birdage and money a lot more than the SNFC does.After all club racing is the bread and butter. There is no denying some absolutely terrific performances were put up last weekend but regardless of this I feel these races are really just money spinners that take from organisations a lot worst off financially than the SNFC.I think most people deep down would agree that the races really don't carry the same prestige and exceitment of the channel races either. In my opinion the SNFC should focus on channel racing leaving inland racing to federations,combines and amals.Feel there would be a lot more entries for the channel races this way and the feds wouldn't be going down the road with empty transporters for their last three or four races.Everyone would benefit. I'd also like to see a change in the national's fee paying policy and perhaps look into the best way to organise a pay per race kinna system.This way you only pay for the races you go to which again I feel would help with their birdages in the channel races.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 The interest of the majority of fanciers has really changed in the last 20 or so years.There was a time in Scotland when channel racing was the be all and end all.Not so much now unfortunately So obviously the SNFC have felt the need to cater for this with these inland Nationals.Which are not only to the detrement of their later channel events,the original soul purpose for the formation of the club,but they are also having a huge hit on federation birdages.These federations and combines need the birdage and money a lot more than the SNFC does.After all club racing is the bread and butter. There is no denying some absolutely terrific performances were put up last weekend but regardless of this I feel these races are really just money spinners that take from organisations a lot worst off financially than the SNFC.I think most people deep down would agree that the races really don't carry the same prestige and exceitment of the channel races either. In my opinion the SNFC should focus on channel racing leaving inland racing to federations,combines and amals.Feel there would be a lot more entries for the channel races this way and the feds wouldn't be going down the road with empty transporters for their last three or four races.Everyone would benefit. I'd also like to see a change in the national's fee paying policy and perhaps look into the best way to organise a pay per race kinna system.This way you only pay for the races you go to which again I feel would help with their birdages in the channel races. best post by far
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