Snfc Proposed Race Points.

[ALF]

PERSONALLY I THOUGHT THAT REIMS WAS A GOOD RACE LAST YEAR GOING BY THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT HAD THEIR CLOCKS RUN OFF AT UDDINGSTON AND I MYSELF A NOVICE AT THE CHANNEL GOT 2 ON SATURDAY AND 1 ON SUNDAY OUT MY 4 FROM THE RACE SO IT CANNAE HAVE BEEN THAT BAD......SO WHY DO THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT THIS YEAR????

[frank-123]

If you want a more level playing field in the gold cup race.Then Bourges is the Answer its been proven time and time again that from these Longer Race points the west section acheive there best open positions.So go for Bourges and stick to it.

 

sure is level playing field last year only two birds in the west timed in

we want more birds to go to the premier race the gold cup too many guys would be scared of that distance

 

reims/liege is fine for me distance wise

[lanarkshire lad]

sure is level playing field last year only two birds in the west timed in

we want more birds to go to the premier race the gold cup too many guys would be scared of that distance

 

reims/liege is fine for me distance wise

That was a won off frank.On the day next year.

[Delboy]

PERSONALLY I THOUGHT THAT REIMS WAS A GOOD RACE LAST YEAR GOING BY THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT HAD THEIR CLOCKS RUN OFF AT UDDINGSTON AND I MYSELF A NOVICE AT THE CHANNEL GOT 2 ON SATURDAY AND 1 ON SUNDAY OUT MY 4 FROM THE RACE SO IT CANNAE HAVE BEEN THAT BAD......SO WHY DO THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT THIS YEAR????

 

 

Aye yer right, if you got 3 oot of 4 it must have been good.

[ALF]

Aye yer right, if you got 3 oot of 4 it must have been good.

 

THATS WHAT I SAID.....

[Delboy]

THATS WHAT I SAID.....

 

 

I KNOW WHAT YE SAID

[robbiedoo.]

I KNOW WHAT YE SAID

what did he say derek

[ALF]

I KNOW WHAT YE SAID

 

[dal2]

Anybody got the SNFC result frae Liege tae post up here? No got it was it 2003? Was McCarton 2nd open?

[JohnQuinn]

There are 3 ways to pool your pigeons in the national, Fed, Section and Open, i watched my Da for years filling in pool sheets and NEVER pooling birds in the Open. When i was old enough to ask why and understand it, he said WE HAVE NO CHANCE pooling against the South and East fanciers. He was 100% right.

Now when i send birds i don't just Expect a fair shake at winning 1st Open, i Fuchin DEMAND IT or whats the point in entering??????

The absolute fact is we were racing from the WRONG country for nearly a 100 years before circumstances changed things, well i'm no prepared to wait for Circumstance to change it permanently, i will propose Liege or some other race that gives Every fancier and Every Pigeon a chance to win it, until i'm old and grey. I don't accept second best Ever and i'm get nothing but second best when we race from France. In another 100 years people will look back in History and see how bloody STUPID pigeon men were, even when the answer was SCREAMING at them they argued against it, and that will be their exact thoughts on how we are handling this, unless we MAKE IT FAIR.

[lanarkshire lad]

Anybody got the SNFC result frae Liege tae post up here? No got it was it 2003? Was McCarton 2nd open?

The print all faded the paper wrinkled and discoloured its that long ago.

[Delboy]

Anybody got the SNFC result frae Liege tae post up here? No got it was it 2003? Was McCarton 2nd open?

 

 

2001 , Crombie and Mechan, Annan 2nd Open with Shawhill Prince ( I think )

[lanarkshire lad]

2001 , Crombie and Mechan, Annan 2nd Open with Shawhill Prince ( I think )

Sorry i forgot big dereks got it framed.

[budgie]

There are 3 ways to pool your pigeons in the national, Fed, Section and Open, i watched my Da for years filling in pool sheets and NEVER pooling birds in the Open. When i was old enough to ask why and understand it, he said WE HAVE NO CHANCE pooling against the South and East fanciers. He was 100% right.

Now when i send birds i don't just Expect a fair shake at winning 1st Open, i Fuchin DEMAND IT or whats the point in entering??????

The absolute fact is we were racing from the WRONG country for nearly a 100 years before circumstances changed things, well i'm no prepared to wait for Circumstance to change it permanently, i will propose Liege or some other race that gives Every fancier and Every Pigeon a chance to win it, until i'm old and grey. I don't accept second best Ever and i'm get nothing but second best when we race from France. In another 100 years people will look back in History and see how bloody STUPID pigeon men were, even when the answer was SCREAMING at them they argued against it, and that will be their exact thoughts on how we are handling this, unless we MAKE IT FAIR.

 

Your correct John but the Doos will still come straight oot the East and face the prevailing West winds but what will happen we will have far better Open Results way oor slow wing beat Doos.

[Delboy]

what did he say derek

 

 

He said Robbie," Im trying to be smart "

[dal2]

John, I can see that you feel passionately aboot racin frae the east. I can see that the advantage of line over the southwill benifit the south but how does the advantage the east has at the moment negateted by the easterly race points?

[Delboy]

Sorry i forgot big dereks got it framed.

 

Sarcastic ...

[lanarkshire lad]

Sarcastic

No jeaulous

[JohnQuinn]

Your correct John but the Doos will still come straight oot the East and face the prevailing West winds but what will happen we will have far better Open Results way oor slow wing beat Doos.

 

I don't mind ma doos coming out the East, not when they have been flying East to West all the road, the same as everyone else's, but sending doos west just to be Blown East then have to turn back westerly, i mean its no rocket science!

[JohnQuinn]

John, I can see that you feel passionately aboot racin frae the east. I can see that the advantage of line over the southwill benifit the south but how does the advantage the east has at the moment negateted by the easterly race points?

 

Because every fancier gets a Truer distance coming from an Easterly race point (Truer in relation to how far each individual pigeon ACTUALLY flies), that gives everyone a chance to be able to one day say they have won the Ultimate prize in our sport. To continue on a line from Rennes say, just because some men decide it was a good place 100 years ago, simply means that not only would i need an Exceptional pigeon in my basket, i need a Very Rare set of racing conditions to happen at the same time. It may never be the case that i have a bird good enough to win it, but i'll never know unless i get as Fair a shout as every fancier in the race of winning it.

[clockman]

I don't mind ma doos coming out the East, not when they have been flying East to West all the road, the same as everyone else's, but sending doos west just to be Blown East then have to turn back westerly, i mean its no rocket science!

how do you know theres gonna be any wind john,

[JohnQuinn]

how do you know theres gonna be any wind john,

 

I might have guessed you'd come up with a cracker George, i would be prepared to stake my life on our birds running into wind over a 550 mile stretch of land and sea, the argument is about Prevailing conditions over many years not in individual races/years.

[dal2]

I might have guessed you'd come up with a cracker George, i would be prepared to stake my life on our birds running into wind over a 550 mile stretch of land and sea, the argument is about Prevailing conditions over many years not in individual races/years.

 

The south birds will still get blown east then John?

[Guest stb-]

how do you know theres gonna be any wind john,

In the UK the most common winds (known as the prevailing winds) are from the west or south-west. These winds arrive in Britain after crossing the Atlantic Ocean and is normal around 75% of the year .

 

 

QUITE INTERESTING

 

THATS HOW WE GET SO MUCH BLOODY RAIN

[lanarkshire lad]

Because every fancier gets a Truer distance coming from an Easterly race point (Truer in relation to how far each individual pigeon ACTUALLY flies), that gives everyone a chance to be able to one day say they have won the Ultimate prize in our sport. To continue on a line from Rennes say, just because some men decide it was a good place 100 years ago, simply means that not only would i need an Exceptional pigeon in my basket, i need a Very Rare set of racing conditions to happen at the same time. It may never be the case that i have a bird good enough to win it, but i'll never know unless i get as Fair a shout as every fancier in the race of winning it.

John you will NEVER get a fair shout at winning it.Pigeon racing has never been a fair game and unfortunatley never will be, for far too many reasons.