JohnJ Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 You mention Wetherby yb race 09 Andy, well for me it was a perfect day for flying pigeons and what happened was freakish. Imo, I think a jet has went through the birds and frazzled most of them as I got 2 back this year with their feathers all burnt. I ended up with 13/26, not great but not that bad compared to most. The returns in this race came down to one thing, LUCK. I think talking about east and west again is crazy unless the west route was cleared of Bop. Yes, there are Bop everywhere but the pigeons cant get away from them down the A74 because of the hills and valleys. wise words delboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novo10 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 here are you tellin me that yous did not take a hit on the west side , just wait till yous go down west , then it will an other egm ? john we lost 7 out of 36 at worcester nothing early doors with old birds dropped about 36 young birds between club and national now up 2 14/23 out young bird national Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novo10 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 No not bumming Alex, just emphasising that the east coast racing was good again this year. not that going down that A74, SUICIDE M8.derek a member of our club sent with almond valley this year with old birds and lost more with them than he done down the west fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 derek a member of our club sent with almond valley this year with old birds and lost more with them than he done down the west fact yes i know he did but he would have lost them anyway , as u know that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novo10 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 yes i know he did but he would have lost them anyway , as u know that if this man goes on roundabout next year he will be hard to beat alot of nice birds in his loft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 if this man goes on roundabout next year he will be hard to beat alot of nice birds in his loft ill bet u he does not win a lot , as will be flying in armadale club hard club 2 win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novo10 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 ill bet u he does not win a lot , as will be flying in armadale club hard club 2 win do u think they will let us join going to america next year could be doing with their pool money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 derek a member of our club sent with almond valley this year with old birds and lost more with them than he done down the west fact Could quite believe it Novo as there is only one pitfall down the west compared to that of the east which has three, e.g. BOP, Pennines and the possibility of clashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 do u think they will let us join going to america next year could be doing with their pool money naw no never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novo10 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 naw no never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 derek a member of our club sent with almond valley this year with old birds and lost more with them than he done down the west fact dont want to hijack the thread but i feel i have to enter a post ,we (renfrewshire fed) were one of the last if not the last to leave the old west route to follow all other feds to the eastern race points ,that last year i hardly lost any old birds and won quite a lot ,yet when we switched i lost most of my experienced old bird team that had won and won well down the west WHY ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgie Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Ask the Midland Fed Members how many have managed to finish and compete in every race over the last 5 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 dont want to hijack the thread but i feel i have to enter a post ,we (renfrewshire fed) were one of the last if not the last to leave the old west route to follow all other feds to the eastern race points ,that last year i hardly lost any old birds and won quite a lot ,yet when we switched i lost most of my experienced old bird team that had won and won well down the west WHY ? Solway fed still west but romoured that east might be on the cards. Our president, Walter Swanston, is trying something new by asking the clubs wot they feel rather than a committee decision. This may involve a lot of arguement but I think Walter has made a bold decision and hopefully this very democratic way will get the result that the majority want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novo10 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Ask the Midland Fed Members how many have managed to finish and compete in every race over the last 5 yearsandy 1 of the best seasons lanarkshire had in nationals u were going down the west and changed for young birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Could quite believe it Novo as there is only one pitfall down the west compared to that of the east which has three, e.g. BOP, Pennines and the possibility of clashing. You ve lost it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 SHOULD BE AN INTERESTING MEETING ON SATURDAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Could quite believe it Novo as there is only one pitfall down the west compared to that of the east which has three, e.g. BOP, Pennines and the possibility of clashing.youve left yer brain in a taxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogin Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 youve left yer brain in a taxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 You ve lost it Delboy can you then tell me what clashing goes on down the west side of the Pennines??Also, is it your opinion that the Pennines once we get past 100 miles plays no importance at gaining a successful race flying back to this part of the country, i could count in one hand how many straight forward races that we have had in the last couple of years from the east side of the Pennines past 100 miles, have also noticed that even members of this forum who race with different feds up the east coast classify this area as the Bermuda triangle. Worth noting that of all the race sites that Lanarkshire have used in the last 11 years while flying down the east, there has only been one site that has served the fed well and that has been Otterburn 80 miles, all the others have been chopped and changed, why???? yes we blame this and blame that but it's down to the 3 points that i have stated in my previous post, lets not forget about the discussion that has taken place on all the airports both commercial and RAF that are plagued down that side of the country. Have also spoken to a couple of guys who have flown with the Midland fed this year and there returns have been equal too and if not better than to those of the Forth and Clyde and Lanarkshire, you have slated going back down the west which is based on your own personal experiences when flying with the Midland fed up to the year 2008, that was the days when they liberated and got slaughtered from Crawford and Lockerbie which was very unfair to liberate pigeons amongst the hills, now with better selection of race sites they have had as good as racing as Lanarkshire and Forth and Clyde and at the same time do not cower from the traditional path to this part of the country.JMO Time to get back to the traditional route and assist a path for the doos were possible. Cant run away anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 [qu so with this quote there are and will not be a proposal, from you as to fly from the east with the national then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgie Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 andy 1 of the best seasons lanarkshire had in nationals u were going down the west and changed for young birds Super Novo one off our best seasons was 2008 . By the time the Old Bird Racing was finished they started to Panic and blamed everbody and thier Granny.If pigeons are Healthy and good enough they will come through.With regards to the Midland Fed i have been informed that only a couple of Fanciers have manged to complete the season over the last 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Delboy Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Delboy can you then tell me what clashing goes on down the west side of the Pennines??Also, is it your opinion that the Pennines once we get past 100 miles plays no importance at gaining a successful race flying back to this part of the country, i could count in one hand how many straight forward races that we have had in the last couple of years from the east side of the Pennines past 100 miles, have also noticed that even members of this forum who race with different feds up the east coast classify this area as the Bermuda triangle. Worth noting that of all the race sites that Lanarkshire have used in the last 11 years while flying down the east, there has only been one site that has served the fed well and that has been Otterburn 80 miles, all the others have been chopped and changed, why???? yes we blame this and blame that but it's down to the 3 points that i have stated in my previous post, lets not forget about the discussion that has taken place on all the airports both commercial and RAF that are plagued down that side of the country. Have also spoken to a couple of guys who have flown with the Midland fed this year and there returns have been equal too and if not better than to those of the Forth and Clyde and Lanarkshire, you have slated going back down the west which is based on your own personal experiences when flying with the Midland fed up to the year 2008, that was the days when they liberated and got slaughtered from Crawford and Lockerbie which was very unfair to liberate pigeons amongst the hills, now with better selection of race sites they have had as good as racing as Lanarkshire and Forth and Clyde and at the same time do not cower from the traditional path to this part of the country.JMO Time to get back to the traditional route and assist a path for the doos were possible. Cant run away anymoreAll 3 points you make are very true BUT the one downside going down the west route overshadows the 3 hazzards on the east. Its easily sorted if we all got our finger out but this will never happen because pigeon men want everything done for them. I say,stick to the east coast, you are better with the devil you know until a certain amount of work has been done to clear the west route. Over the last couple of years, some top fanciers from the Midland fed have not been heard from at national level. The west route cant be helping them, can it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 All 3 points you make are very true BUT the one downside going down the west route overshadows the 3 hazzards on the east. Its easily sorted if we all got our finger out but this will never happen because pigeon men want everything done for them. I say,stick to the east coast, you are better with the devil you know until a certain amount of work has been done to clear the west route. Over the last couple of years, some top fanciers from the Midland fed have not been heard from at national level. The west route cant be helping them, can it ?unfortunatly with the saturation levels with percys its a bit like pissing against the wind now del , it would take a mass concerted effort from every fancier , but as norm it is left to the few WITH PERSONAL EXSPERIENCE YOU CANT OFTEN EVEN GET A GOOD TRAINING TOOS IN AMONGST THE HILLS DOWN THE 74 , MUCH BETTER FROM THE EAST AT LEAST THE BIRDS ARE NOT HEMMED IN AND CAN MAKE THERE ESCAPE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Exactly right Bob, east is the lesser of two evils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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