The Last Few Weeks With My Y/B'S

[ALF]

JUST BEEN CHECKING MY BOOK AND 3 WEEKS AGO ON FRIDAY I HAD 42/43 Y/B'S IN THE LOFT BUT WHILE THEY WERE OUT EXERCISING THAT DAY ONLY 36 LANDED AND THEN A WEE WHILE LATER 1 CAME BUSTED TO "WELL YOU KNOW WHAT" NEVER SEEN ANY OF THE OTHERS TO THIS DAY SO PRESUME DEAD THEN 10 DAYS ON WE GO TO ABBINGTON WITH MY MATE AND 17 SLEPT OOT AND 8 MISSING THEN WE MOVE ON TO LAST WEEKS RACE WERE I SENT 18 AND LOST 8 OF THEM expletive remove WHAT IS GOING ON HERE THEY ARE ALL HEALTHY TRAINING OK AND LOOK WELL AND DROPPINGS ARE PERFECT.THEN WE HAD 3 GOOD TOSSES IN THE NEWMAINS VAN THIS WEEK AND ONLY 1 DOO WENT MISSING ON THE TUESDAY AND I PUT THEM INTO THE RACE WITH EVERY CONFIDENCE IN THE WANS I SENT BUT ONLY 3 FAE THE 10 HAVE TURNED UP WTF IS GOING ON JUST NOW??????

 

SO IN 3 WEEKS AND A FEW TOSSES 2 RACES AND SOME LOST WHILE OUT FLEEING I NOW HAVE 11 LEFT IN THE Y/B RACE LOFT

 

ANOTHER YEAR IN THE Y/B RACING LIFE OF ALF

[sapper756]

Unfortunately Alf you are not alone with this onehttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif youngsters have been dropping everywhere, and quite a few fanciers young bird season is already overhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif the question is WHY?, Where are all these lost youngsters ending up? I myself will be sitting down this week and contemplating whether my season is over, or do I continue racing the small team of youngsters I have left, my concern is that I both want and need yearlings for next years old bird teamhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

[dal2]

Alan thats herendous mate. Conclusions are hard tae find and anything said on here will only make you feel worse. I am genuinely sad fur big man and I hope ye make the right decisions for yer remainder.

Cheers steven

[geordie1234]

this is all ive herd since i came into the sight does anyone think that people will eventually just train them on year of birth and not race until yearling or is there more chance of losing them when they havent raced

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Sorry to hear this Alan, the sport is in a hell of a state between BOP, illness and government interference.

 

"Is there a future for the pigeon sport"

[JohnQuinn]

I would just like to say this on the subject of losses. Breed 50, by racing time you'll have maybe 45, by end of season your likely to have say 30 left. By the end of the next season probably be around 15. Of these only 4-6 will have scored or bred something to go on to score, and by the end of the 2yr old season the 15 is now 5. How quick i get to that 5 makes no odds to me.

Its not a matter of losing GOOD pigeons all the time, more often than not its the rubbish getting lost quicker than they otherwise would, but lost they will be no matter if its as yb y'lings or 2yr olds. JMO

[Delboy]

Sorry to hear this Alan, the sport is in a hell of a state between BOP, illness and government interference.

 

"Is there a future for the pigeon sport"

 

 

Yes there is a future but we have to sit round a table and fathom out what is happening to our ybs, year in year out. All the governing bodies should be investigating why we get terrible losses in perfect racing days.

[dal2]

I would just like to say this on the subject of losses. Breed 50, by racing time you'll have maybe 45, by end of season your likely to have say 30 left. By the end of the next season probably be around 15. Of these only 4-6 will have scored or bred something to go on to score, and by the end of the 2yr old season the 15 is now 5. How quick i get to that 5 makes no odds to me.

Its not a matter of losing GOOD pigeons all the time, more often than not its the rubbish getting lost quicker than they otherwise would, but lost they will be no matter if its as yb y'lings or 2yr olds. JMO

 

John thats probs a fair comment but its still very demolirising tae lose yer young bird team as quick. The experince gained frae bein in the sport all yer days givs a more thoughtful and laid back approach to yer doos. The numbers game will never work and will probs give fanciers more problems in the long run but the finance and time in buildin a team that you can rely on are huge.

I know men that buy and buy and get nowhere and I know men that win most Yb races but win Hee haw wae old birds. Nae yearlins=nae 2yr olds=nae channel always has always will. Take care of yer younguns as thats yer future.

JMO Steven

[timmy]

Training has been good until yesterday. Ihave only 14 birds back out of 74 from WIITON CASTLE. Absolutely gutted to say the least. These y/bs were well trained . They all have the prefix SB they are out there somewhere . Please help.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Training has been good until yesterday. Ihave only 14 birds back out of 74 from WIITON CASTLE. Absolutely gutted to say the least. These y/bs were well trained . They all have the prefix SB they are out there somewhere . Please help.

 

Sorry to hear this Timmy

[timmy]

thanks Gareth but it doesn't take it away that all time and money spent trying to build up a good team and to lose it in one fell swoop .

[ALF]

thanks Gareth but it doesn't take it away that all time and money spent trying to build up a good team and to lose it in one fell swoop .

 

I SINCERELY HOPE A GOOD FEW MORE TURN UP FOR YOU TIMMY

 

ALL THE BEST AND GOOD LUCK MATE

 

ALAN

[ALF]

NOT LONG OFF THE PHONE TO A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DOOS THAT ARE MISSING THIS WEEKEND IN OUR FED AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE HAD 130 YES 130 I SAID IT RIGHT BUT OVER THE LAST 3 WEEKS HE TOLD ME HE HAS LOST 70 UY/B'S YES 70 SO WTF IS GOING ON UP HERE THE NOO?????????

[Blue Chequer Pied]

Alan I feel your pain pal. It has been the same for me up here this year. Never known anything like it. I have never had training like it and the birds have been spot on. I have had 3 races now and I have sent 5,7 and 12 to these three races. Dropped one the first week, got them all last week and I got 11/12 yesterday so the racing has been ok for me, but the training cleaned me out. It has been the worst year for me with youngbirds in all the time I have kept doo's.

 

Paul.

[Roland]

Well climate change will be blames I presume, and may have some merit ... But I believe that inbreeding has taken it's toll of the Homing ability etc. and been diluted way way too much. Mother Nature, as she ALWAYS does, has hit back!

We only have to look and the Royal family. Why the close breeding is unlawful in humans etc. because of the proven dire results. Look at the devastion of the inferior Alsation etc. and in ALL walks where man has interfered to disastrous effects

I mean just how many has desecrated their' birds via incest breeding trying to get back to a fore parent. Ludicriss! The many are mostly trying to get back the qualities of a bird which is very often not good enough it'self! Yes it's fore fatjhers may have been... and ONE offspring only is used to try and keep the genes / progengy in the loft. Not from gg grandsons etc. THEY have well lost it and NEED to only be outcrossed!

Then the Grand, or GG Grandson / Daughter that is induced to breed incest because one believes it will keep the genes etc.

It will to an extent, but not of the Fore parents.

An simple equation in the main is, One can not put in what is not there. BUT throw backs accur only too true.... but not from inbreeding.

Simply put, trying to get what is not there and breeding back inferior birds to inferior birds. then too many are bought and the same jargon course is repeated.

[chrissyboy1]

Our club Clarkston & District yesterday Consett , Lanarkshire ,60 odd birds missing from 168 sent, Three lofts finished for the season and only at the 100mile mark.

[Guest IB]

This year I broke my own rule of breeding only from selected pairs, the goal being quality & future of my loft. I breed fewer pigeons this way. But for some reason I tried to get a team of 24 first rounders together for young bird racing. Between losing birds off top, flyaways mishaps etc I was left with 10 when I started training - which is the number I would have started with had I stuck to my own rules. My gut feeling now is I've proved to myself what I'd always suspected, the more pigeons you breed the greater likelihood that you'll fill the loft with rubbish: seems I got 10 'half decent' pigeons to try out, and 14 no-hopers.

[timmy]

none back today but just had one reported down in ilkley west yorkshire. Now for the other59

[nogin]

none back today but just had one reported down in ilkley west yorkshire. Now for the other59

expletive remove m8 what can i say

[Guest mick bowler]

I wish i could put a finger on why everyone losses so many youngbirds but i cant, but i know why i do. Before i moved here never lost that many, but basically never bred many from unproven birds. I did not tolerate illness, i'd rather dispose of than worry about, they are soon forgotten then. I have made mistakes as well contributing to possibly the worse losses i have had, not thinking about the birds basically. Clashing caused losses, as most of my training was on the M4 corridor, but if one makes it back why not the others?

 

Here it is slightly different story, no clashing as no birds around here. Illness i am a bit less tolerant, but only if it is a flock problem, individuals tend to still be removed. I have a BOP problem that i never had before, i also have a wires problem, they are everywhere in this part of the country, you would have to see to believe and i would even go so far as saying this now accounts as my biggest reason for losses, as the winds dont help. I have and still will make mistakes, but none so bad that if the birds have it they will get over it.

 

The one thing that is common to both these situations is the quality of the bird, a good pigeon stands a chance in both situations, a poor one does not, it has no chance. Sometimes they will get a piece of luck but eventually they will succumb. Some hazards take the good as the bad, but they have to adapt to the surroundings, wether its missing wires or evading predators, and they do.

 

My yongbirds are also part of a "family", we bond, and those that dont always seem to be the ones that cant tough it out. No heart as they say. Thats why i believe a smaller team man always has less losses than the big teams, they are all just a number then and not part of the "family". I have seen it so many times and was the same for myself.