Guest bigda Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 the only thing that can stop the birds from racing home,  is the peregrine,  the way the birds are returning  says the birds are been turned,  each time they  try to  head home,  just like ruining the gauntlet,  some birds are a we bit braver,  than others or are  less exposed to the hawk,  there are many  would say its not hawks,  but  just  let one loose  among a convoy and you will be picking birds  up from the ground in there scores,  sheer  terror they impose on your birds,  you will have seen this around home where your  birds have smacked into  building trying to get away, to high light this  more, your bird can turn in a phone boxwhen you try to catch it. It knows all the moves,  but  they  don't come into play with the hawk,  as your bird is terrified And will smack into a wall,  what  dose that say  about todays racing.  if we dont help our selves,  then the hawks will surley help themselfs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novo10 Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 1 this morning 6.05 got 15 from 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BRYANBROCK Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 the only thing that can stop the birds from racing home,  is the peregrine,  the way the birds are returning  says the birds are been turned,  each time they  try to  head home,  just like ruining the gauntlet,  some birds are a we bit braver,  than others or are  less exposed to the hawk,  there are many  would say its not hawks,  but  just  let one loose  among a convoy and you will be picking birds  up from the ground in there scores,  sheer  terror they impose on your birds,  you will have seen this around home where your  birds have smacked into  building trying to get away, to high light this  more, your bird can turn in a phone boxwhen you try to catch it. It knows all the moves,  but  they  don't come into play with the hawk,  as your bird is terrified And will smack into a wall,  what  dose that say  about todays racing.  if we dont help our selves,  then the hawks will surley help themselfs i think it more to do with heat than the hawks granted hawks can cause havoc have seen this myself but there must have been 5 to 6000 birds liberated so where they all gone not all taken by hawks i am sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 There was quite a few missing in the corresponding race last year from Newbury aswell so what is happening to them all?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQuinn Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 i think it more to do with heat than the hawks granted hawks can cause havoc have seen this myself but there must have been 5 to 6000 birds liberated so where they all gone not all taken by hawks i am sure The hawk doesn't need to take them all, the doos only need to feel threatened by it to make off in any direction just to get away from the danger. I remember a few years ago, Budgie had a strike at the lofts, 11pm that night he got one reported in Edinburgh, at 7am the next morning he had one reported in Northern Ireland, says it all really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky cowboy Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 totally agree wi ye gareth dosent seem to be much thought about birds when weather to hot all about too cloudy,rain ect wee bit more thought about when to warm jmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 the only thing that can stop the birds from racing home,  is the peregrine,  the way the birds are returning  says the birds are been turned,  each time they  try to  head home,  just like ruining the gauntlet,  some birds are a we bit braver,  than others or are  less exposed to the hawk,  there are many  would say its not hawks,  but  just  let one loose  among a convoy and you will be picking birds  up from the ground in there scores,  sheer  terror they impose on your birds,  you will have seen this around home where your  birds have smacked into  building trying to get away, to high light this  more, your bird can turn in a phone boxwhen you try to catch it. It knows all the moves,  but  they  don't come into play with the hawk,  as your bird is terrified And will smack into a wall,  what  dose that say  about todays racing.  if we dont help our selves,  then the hawks will surley help themselfsyip its not just the ones they take it the birds that turn and head the wrong way again they can decimate a convoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 <br />i think it more to do with heat than the hawks granted hawks can cause havoc have seen this myself but there must have been 5 to 6000 birds liberated so where they all gone not all taken by hawks i am sure  <img src='http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />  <img src='http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />  <img src='http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br /><br /><br /><br /> they are not all taken by the hawk never said they where, its the fear when they meet them and it is a possibility that they are all eaten, as for you cant answer as to why they haven't returned, and don't get reported, maybe it would be as much as a shock as it is to the birds , to see actually how many hawks that are out there, flocks on anything always attract some sort around the dinner table, just suppose there are 50 hawks on route that cant be hard to imagine, then again there could be 500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 <br /><br /><br /> they are not all taken by the hawk never said they where, its the fear when they meet them and it is a possibility that they are all eaten, as for you cant answer as to why they haven't returned, and don't get reported, maybe it would be as much as a shock as it is to the birds , to see actually how many hawks that are out there, flocks on anything always attract some sort around the dinner table, just suppose there are 50 hawks on route that cant be hard to imagine, then again there could be 500maby 5000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigda Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 <br />maby 5000 <img src='http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />Â Â <img src='http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br /><br /><br /><br /> who would be more shocked now then if that is the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pego Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Only got 7 from 20 sent. Had 1 this morning so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom corrie Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 <br /><br /><br /> they are not all taken by the hawk never said they where, its the fear when they meet them and it is a possibility that they are all eaten, as for you cant answer as to why they haven't returned, and don't get reported, maybe it would be as much as a shock as it is to the birds , to see actually how many hawks that are out there, flocks on anything always attract some sort around the dinner table, just suppose there are 50 hawks on route that cant be hard to imagine, then again there could be 500 I agree with Bigda it is the sheer panic that these birds of prey cause it has got to a stage when you go to basket your birds for racing or training the birds know there are going to run the Gauntlet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHigg Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 i have 2 out of 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 having logged onto the SNFC site yesteraday to see the arrivals one thing that i have noticed is that they stop updating very quickly ,the guys in the north had only just timed in and few had birds and it stopped( not very fair) just my honest oppinion, maybe should be looked at by commitee ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapper756 Posted June 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 having logged onto the SNFC site yesteraday to see the arrivals one thing that i have noticed is that they stop updating very quickly ,the guys in the north had only just timed in and few had birds and it stopped( not very fair) just my honest oppinion, maybe should be looked at by commitee ? a very valid point hotrodhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom corrie Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 2 from 2 the first time this season we have had full returns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiedoo. Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 having logged onto the SNFC site yesteraday to see the arrivals one thing that i have noticed is that they stop updating very quickly ,the guys in the north had only just timed in and few had birds and it stopped( not very fair) just my honest oppinion, maybe should be looked at by commitee ? it the same all the time with the north doos . i timed in at 4.45 and phoned the lib line so its not as if any if not phoning in .i have 3 from 5 home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgie Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 it the same all the time with the north doos . i timed in at 4.45 and phoned the lib line so its not as if any if not phoning in .i have 3 from 5 homeThe site is a joke and i for one will never call it again.Win loose or draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex wight Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Looks like i,ve got away with it this week, and the only reason is, that i felt my birds had a tough race last week, so gave them a rest this week. Feeling for all who have had big hits, and congrats to the timed in birds. As for the SNFC going forward, one area that has to be addressed is the website, i,m sure it will be. Then when we see it benefiting the sport, more people will contribute to it, hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JADE Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 the problem with the website is that nobody will take on the responsibility of running it. i see the sec is doing libline this year and he can only do so much. certainly better than last year which was a complete shambles. the other problem is the majority of members now dont phone their time in anyway so you dont get a true picture of whats going on. why dont some of you moaners offer to sit by the phone for six hours and update the site during a race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 the problem with the website is that nobody will take on the responsibility of running it. i see the sec is doing libline this year and he can only do so much. certainly better than last year which was a complete shambles. the other problem is the majority of members now dont phone their time in anyway so you dont get a true picture of whats going on. why dont some of you moaners offer to sit by the phone for six hours and update the site during a race.i for one am not a member but i was thinking of the guys in the north only as the last bird posted was about 3.45 yesterday the first arrival was 3.25(posted) in the north not much time for any other birds ,to get a mention ,and as for people not calling in their arrivals make it as rule just as some english organisations do ,but yes its a thankless job the same as race marking, the guys running around picking up birds from marking stations, the clock setters you name it ,i think that when i was on the snfc commitee we paid some wee girl(through john gray) to do it £50 per race for about 5/6 hrs not bad £10 per hour ? any takers out there ? lots of unemployed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgie Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 the problem with the website is that nobody will take on the responsibility of running it. i see the sec is doing libline this year and he can only do so much. certainly better than last year which was a complete shambles. the other problem is the majority of members now dont phone their time in anyway so you dont get a true picture of whats going on. why dont some of you moaners offer to sit by the phone for six hours and update the site during a race.If your that smart take up the position the problem is we are missing Joe Murphy.The reason we dont phone in is quite simple they dont ever update our times .Get off your Ar-se and try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 7/12 got a couple of handy doos to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex wight Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 the problem with the website is that nobody will take on the responsibility of running it. i see the sec is doing libline this year and he can only do so much. certainly better than last year which was a complete shambles. the other problem is the majority of members now dont phone their time in anyway so you dont get a true picture of whats going on. why dont some of you moaners offer to sit by the phone for six hours and update the site during a race. Not moaning jade, i appreciate the work that the committee are doing for this great club. However if theres a part of it thats on offer to its members, and its not quite right, then it needs to be addresed. After all if your paying for a service then you expect to get the service. in my humble opinion. But again, the snfc have stabilised a huge amount, since the problems of the past couple of years, and the people involved are to be congratulated. so well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 8from 10 sent still seek the 2 to come are last years winner of youngbird open and winner of Joe Murphy y\b exchange. And the hen he is paired to winner of 2x1st fed and winner of Northwest fed y\bird of the year. Hopefully they will turn up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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