snfc belgium national ypres

[walterbmasson]

l ast year the snfc dropped a hand full of birds at ypres they were liberated into rain dod smith timed a couple of late breds you would think it would benefit the birds they would not be so long in the baskets and also i would think a lot cheaper and more birds as it is just perfect for a fit yearlings do you want a race name snfc remembrance                                                                                                    time for a change what do you all think

[Williedoo]

Ypres has been proposed as a snfc race for the agm

[Ian McKay]

What changes do you want Walter

 

Ian

[Ian McKay]

You dont get qicker than that Walter both you SNFC deligate replying in 1 minute

Must be your lucky day

 

Cheers

Ian

[Guest]

Did last years YPRES race count as a national race.For instance did a bird on the result go towards a gold award ?

[Ian McKay]

Don't think so

[alec guinness]

Did last years YPRES race count as a national race.For instance did a bird on the result go towards a gold award ?

 

not sure,but must say past races from belgium have been very good both racing and return wise.

[walterbmasson]

thanks ian go for a gold medal for the winner ror each section winner top brass ok for starters

[robbiedoo.]

u could use this race for some publicity as well . the reason why ypres was picked as a racepoint stuff like that.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

The Ypres race did not count for Gold awards or averages.

 

I myself do not want to see Ypres on a date such as last year were there is pressure to liberate the pigeons because of e.g. commemorating certain occasions, I think it would be wrong of the SNFC to get themselves involved were there is no flexibility on a date or race point at a AGM.

 

[Novice]

The Ypres race did not count for Gold awards or averages.

 

I myself do not want to see Ypres on a date such as last year were there is pressure to liberate the pigeons because of e.g. commemorating certain occasions, I think it would be wrong of the SNFC to get themselves involved were there is no flexibility on a date or race point at a AGM.

 

Good post the welfare of the birds is paramount

 

 

[jock3]

i agree with gareth ,ur bank on big man

[Williedoo]

Gareth,I am under the impression that it would be just another race with no pressure to lib on the date set.

[jock3]

why should we have another race, hardly anuff birds for the races we have

[walterbmasson]

hatching we could start by scrapping toures there is so few birds going to this race if you time in youve an open position i won the sec in 1978 nearly 2000 birds  now you are lucky if 250 birds go if there was a ballot for tours ypres or lille i am sure the fanciers would put the x for the latter  

[Guest]

hatching we could start by scrapping toures there is so few birds going to this race if you time in youve an open position i won the sec in 1978 nearly 2000 birds  now you are lucky if 250 birds go if there was a ballot for tours ypres or lille i am sure the fanciers would put the x for the latter  

 

Thats what the club is all about long distance.Although i am not a member it would be tours every time for me,scrap the others and then the birdage may go up.

[Guest stevie-b]

good answer by gaerth but i beleive it would be good publicity and the date should be flexible as the race its self is a bigger mark of repect to our heros than the date

[shotgun tim]

im usually bothered about theses races but this year il be in cuba so this year il think of you while im on the beach ;D ;D

[JADE]

hatching we could start by scrapping toures there is so few birds going to this race if you time in youve an open position i won the sec in 1978 nearly 2000 birds  now you are lucky if 250 birds go if there was a ballot for tours ypres or lille i am sure the fanciers would put the x for the latter  

 

why scrap a classic long distance race for what could be a sprint from Ypres or Lille given the right conditions. i think we need to look at the dates of the races. why does tours have to be the week after Alencon. why not have falaise 2 weeks after alencon followed by tours the following week. Eastbourne birds would have a 3 week break then go to falaise instead of the present 5 weeks and you may get some alencon birds going back to tours. just food for thought

[Guest IB]

When Ypres was proposed last year, I hoped it would become an SNFC annual race, and this proposal makes it that.

 

At 450 miles to central Scotland, I think it is an excellent 'stage race' for good yearlings as a steppingstone for Alencon as 2 yo;

 

I also think it would make an excellent Yearling National, made open to non-SNFC members, through special entry fee, set at a business rates level.

 

I also do not believe anyone involved in the event would push for a liberation that jeopardised the birds chances of getting home. You don't commemorate one huge loss with another.

[REDCHEQHEN]

im usually bothered about theses races but this year il be in cuba so this year il think of you while im on the beach ;D ;D

 

Lovely - you're going during the hurricane season (evil)(evil)

No need to go to the beach - the beach comes to you (evil)

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

hatching we could start by scrapping toures there is so few birds going to this race if you time in youve an open position i won the sec in 1978 nearly 2000 birds  now you are lucky if 250 birds go if there was a ballot for tours ypres or lille i am sure the fanciers would put the x for the latter  

 

Walter you are one of the fortunate members that have more than one 1 race from 600+ miles with the SNFC, i think it is wrong for you to want to deprive the vast majority of the members from the club at least one race from 600 miles. :-/

 

cheers

Gareth

 

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Gareth,I am under the impression that it would be just another race with no pressure to lib on the date set.

 

Hi Willie

 

Willie can you tell me that if it is the committees proposal to have 2 races on the same weekend i.e. Tours and Ypres is it there plan to have the pigeons go in the same transporter as what happened last year.

 

cheers

Gareth

 

 

 

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

why should we have another race, hardly anuff birds for the races we have

 

Jock

I myself have nothing against the SNFC having 4 channel races but i do believe there is a big problem when they are putting forward a proposal to have 4 channel races within 21 days.

 

Jade has posted what for me would be a good proposal :-

26th June Alencon

Traditional date for many years.

10th July Falaise

Which is a week earlier than normal and would suit a lot of the federation flyers who duplicate there pigeons and who also want at this time of the season to start concentrating on there young birds.

17th July Tours

This date could also help the birdage numbers that is sent sent to our longest race of the season with members that have had a successful couple of channel races keen to have another go and them along with others not wanting to wait another 12 months for a chance at the channel.

 

And perhaps for a 4th channel race Ypres on the 12th of June which in turn would allow members to prepare their channel pigeons to compete in two channel races per season which is not the case at present. (Both race points around the 450 mark)

 

Cheers

Gareth

 

 

 

[hotrod]

When Ypres was proposed last year, I hoped it would become an SNFC annual race, and this proposal makes it that.

 

At 450 miles to central Scotland, I think it is an excellent 'stage race' for good yearlings as a steppingstone for Alencon as 2 yo;

 

I also think it would make an excellent Yearling National, made open to non-SNFC members, through special entry fee, set at a business rates level.

 

I also do not believe anyone involved in the event would push for a liberation that jeopardised the birds chances of getting home. You don't commemorate one huge loss with another.

I think you will find the snrpc has a race for yearlings has had for 2 years mate it was my proposal to do this , my thinking was for that reason to get never mind just yearlings ,2 year olds, late breds, some of the inland boys to maybe have a go and get them hooked into channel racing.sorry for mentioning snrpc on snfc thread