jock allan of symington

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

 

Hi Derek

Is this the same John Allan that built a wooden cross outside his mothers house set it on fire KKK style and shouted this is where your going strait to hell

Cheers

Homer 49

You dont know the real John Allan

 

 

 

 

 

PMSL ;D

 

I thought that was standard procedure when you live in a small Scottish village in the middle of no where. lol ;D ;D ;D

 

 

[Delboy]

 

Hi Derek

Is this the same John Allan that built a wooden cross outside his mothers house set it on fire KKK style and shouted this is where your going strait to hell

Cheers

Homer 49

You dont know the real John Allan

 

 

 

 

;D  ;D I never knew that one, not at any time did I say he was an angel  ;D I know he had issues with religion etc  ;D but to me, he showed respect and thats what I judge the man on. A straight talker that called a spade a spade and I respected that.Too many fence sitters in this game, frightened to say anything in case it rocks the boat or offends anyone, even when it is detrimental to the sport,they still say nothing. Jock Allan did not sit on the fence. We are talking about the man as a legend in the pigeon world and you have to put a fecking dampener on it with something totally irrelevant.

[Guest KING BILLY]

the question was asked about his national racing not a social back ground report

[elanco]

the question was asked about his national racing not a social back ground report

 

;D ;D ;D ;D

[frank-123]

i pray every time i send maybe a burning cross is the missing link

[Delboy]

the question was asked about his national racing not a social back ground report

 

Correct  

[nogin]

the question was asked about his national racing not a social back ground report

 

heard a story, he once made a lawnmower fly........................eh homer

[Guest youngzimmy]

another great doo man from he same erea davy angus

[me]

 

most fanciers believe that the base of jocks birds were from the great davie angus of symington, :) :)

 

 

Well thats one way of putting it, infact its the understatement of all under statements. Of course later on Davie would not give him a thing , wonder why?

 

But no matter where his birds came from, his and Dicks performances from the national were quite remarkable.

 

[alec guinness]

 

Hi

You not going to say anything about Richard (Dick)

Cheers

Homer 49

 

met dick on only a few occassions seemed an amiable sort of chap,have read your other comments on national legend jock allan and can only say he was 100% with myself and delboy,yes he was no angel, who is homer? as my old dad says there is always 3 sides to a story yours, mine and the correct one. ;) national legend and one of scotlands all time greatest fanciers.

 

[HOMER49]

 

heard a story, he once made a lawnmower fly........................eh homer

 

Hi

And he was working for me at the time  biting the hand that feeds you springs to mind ;D ;D ;D

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

[alec guinness]

 

 

Well thats one way of putting it, infact its the understatement of all under statements. Of course later on Davie would not give him a thing , wonder why?

 

But no matter where his birds came from, his and Dicks performances from the national were quite remarkable.

 

again "me" seems a simple answer to a simple question,as always with your comments there is a touch of sarcasm, took jock allan as i found him,i know my history like yourself and definately no one better in the west section.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[W.D.]

He also had some Jocky Harrison birds as well in his bloodlines.He used to bring his nat candidates up to Jocky's to handle before he sent them in the early days.

[sammy]

think the man should be remembered for his pigeons rather than some of the dirt that has been dug up about him after all who is squeaky clean when it comes to it ?

[Big Davie]

We all know that Jock was a bit wild and lived on the edge, but oh whit a doo man, i was at a south lanarkshire fed function once when they done a this " This is your life " on Jock, the mans performances were unbelievable, probably the best the west sect has ever seen, and there have been a few good ones, the mans a legend.

Davie

[jimmy white]

What do yous pigeon men.THINK about the pigeons this man had and did with them in S.N.F.C ie 1st west sec how many times

 

one of the best pigeon fanciers scotland has had

[OLDYELLOW]

i like hearing of the great Scotish Distance flyers , hard birds hard terrain non better in my view

[Guest]

Some what of topic,but would Wullie Wilson of Larkhall not also be considered, to be at least be on a par with Jock Allen as one of Scotland's all time Greats.

[ALF]

i like hearing of the great Scotish Distance flyers , hard birds hard terrain non better in my view

 

Aye Hotrod must be 1 of the best aswell oldyellow 8) 8) 8) 8)

[Guest]

 

Aye Hotrod must be 1 of the best aswell oldyellow 8) 8) 8) 8)

 

Big Stuarts pigeon must be up there with the best performances in the last twenty years into the west section.

[OLDYELLOW]

S.Ferguson of  Annan pure class sent 3 birds to Tours topped it and had other at 7th i believe  

[Guest]

 

Big Stuarts pigeon must be up there with the best performances in the last twenty years into the west section.

 

and it wasnt a flash in the pan dont forget his 3rd open a few years ago

[ALF]

 

and it wasnt a flash in the pan dont forget his 3rd open a few years ago

 

Aye and what about 2004 1st&2nd club 3rd&5thfed  maidstone,2005 1st & 2nd club 2nd 4th fed maidstone with renfrew fed, 2006 with glasgow no coast race the nearest race was huntingdon 306 miles  1st club 3rd fed,2007 1st & 2nd club 1st and 3rd fed newbury,2008 1st,2nd,3rd club   2nd 4thand 7th fed maidstone , not taking into account , 1st club 1st fed clermont  only 2 in race time  177th open snfc with renfrew, 1st club 1st fed only bird on the day clermont 543 miles  renfrew, that was 2003 and 2004 i think , the the first year with glasgow 1st club 1st fed 1st sect 5th open lessay 486 miles only bird on day

 

8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

[Guest]

 

Aye and what about 2004 1st&2nd club 3rd&5thfed  maidstone,2005 1st & 2nd club 2nd 4th fed maidstone with renfrew fed, 2006 with glasgow no coast race the nearest race was huntingdon 306 miles  1st club 3rd fed,2007 1st & 2nd club 1st and 3rd fed newbury,2008 1st,2nd,3rd club   2nd 4thand 7th fed maidstone , not taking into account , 1st club 1st fed clermont  only 2 in race time  177th open snfc with renfrew, 1st club 1st fed only bird on the day clermont 543 miles  renfrew, that was 2003 and 2004 i think , the the first year with glasgow 1st club 1st fed 1st sect 5th open lessay 486 miles only bird on day

 

8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

 

that was the bird that was 3rd open the following year but hes bieng doing it for years in sec f snfc only birds to take open pos. in the sec. but because of where he lives it went un noticed lets face it he races to the pits of the earth thats what makes his nat. pos so special

[ALF]

 

that was the bird that was 3rd open the following year but hes bieng doing it for years in sec f snfc only birds to take open pos. in the sec. but because of where he lives it went un noticed lets face it he races to the pits of the earth thats what makes his nat. pos so special

 

I'ts great flying considering where the big man flies into 8) 8) 8)