just ask me Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 reading the birds for 2010 thread there is a big difference in the amount of birds fanciers keep i know everyone circumstances are different but what do u think this right amount of pigeons for a fancier to have to be able to the most out of his team if if there that special champion in the team to give the bird the attention he needs to perform to his best remember also we all have family's work etc please include stock birds in your estimate
Guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 4 pairs of stock ,6 widow cocks and 24 ybs (in an ideal world) thats one without B.O.P. andy.
dwh Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 reading the birds for 2010 thread there is a big difference in the amount of birds fanicers keep i know everyone circumstances are different but what do u think this right amount of pigeons for a fancier to have to be able to the most out of his team if if there that special champion in the team to give the bird the attention he needs to perform to his best remember also we all have family's work etc please include stock birds in your estimate 6pr stck 12 coks 12 hens -ob. 30 ybs
Guest bakes Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 each person is different i prefure small numbers quality over quantity ever time. 12 yearlings few good prison stock pairs that have done the bis for the old owners and i will have 30 ybs thats more than enough for me and my misses all the best.
peterpau Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 4 pairs of stock ,6 widow cocks and 24 ybs (in an ideal world) thats one without B.O.P. andy. I always tell the better half to shoot me if I start keeping more than 50 ;D
showman Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 Practically impossible to answer. Too many external influences .
greenlands Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 Eleven pair natural racers and 5 pair of stock,have ordered 40 rings but will more than likely use about 30/34 max. Lindsay
Guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 I always tell the better half to shoot me if I start keeping more than 50 ;D well if i get to 100 (and a lot seem to have that many ybs alone) ill shoot maself. andy.
ALF Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 For myself personally looking after the pigeons myself i started last season training 47 old birds which i thought was too many as at the 1st 3 or 4 races i never knew every pigeons ring number which is something i dont like but the main reason i dont want that many old birds again is i want it to be a hobby for myself not another full time job as i already have 1 of those and i dont want another wan :o ;) ;) 8) 8) 8) 8)
holmsidelofts Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 Like others have said there is a lot of external factors to take into consideration. For me its 24 widowhood cocks, about 10 racing hens. 60-80 youngsters, 10 pairs of stock birds. We fly a difficult road and have lots of b.o.p's to deal with. jas
Guest bigbok Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 i got 30 pr homers for feeders and 16 pr of trumps and 5 pair of blondinettes plus 3 pr franconian trumps ao thats 108 !!! now i know why im going throught so much feed
Delboy Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 Scottish Midland fed you need 80 obs and 100 ybs ;D ;D Lanarkshire fed - 30 obs 25 ybs In Reality, 12 good obs will do - 6 sent alternate weeks and 25 ybs
Taylorsloft Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 most of us keep to many pigeons i would like to get down to wintering 40 more than enough if they have all raced
hotrod Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 i think it all depends on what racing you are into ,ie if your just into sprint racing i would say you only need a small team of birds but if your into long distance you need a much larger team of birds ,my self i am wintering around 44 old/yearlings and breed around 30-36 young and if i race the young birds one or two races or even out to 100 miles i would be hoping to have 24/28 left ,ps i also have around 8 pairs of stock birds
Guest spin cycle Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 its a very good question....because partnerships, generally, are going to fly more . in a perfect world i would restrict lofts to 18 pairs of ob and allocate 20 rings per loft for ybs.
Guest IB Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 Well 2009/10 I am wintering 38 which is 6 less than last year. I am limited by space. I have 20 nest boxes, and for me thats what determines how many I can keep, and don't like all my boxes filled. I've 5 stock cocks, 4 stock hens. They are not all mated together, some will be paired with pigeons that are going to channel races. I'd like to be able to send a minimum of 4 pigeons to each of these races. It takes a while to build numbers for that League.. Bit like a football manager I think, you have a pool, but there's eggy hens, injuries, and plans for certain races. You can have too many pigeons, but I also think you can have too few. I dropped 10 pigeons in one stinker of a race last year, 1/3rd of my team gone after only 3 races.
Guest ROCKYandRAMBO Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 at the end of the day its down to the fancier and the time hes got when i was impartnership with my retired mate we kept more now im racing on my own ive got 9 pair at stock . 17 widowhood cocks all yearlings and there hens i will breed my self 30 youngsters to race . if i wasnt working and i had the time i would have one hundred youngsters and prob 40 widowhood cocks but then i would try and race the full program but as im working full time im just concentrate on the sprints but im not against people sending large numbers and if you limited every one in 20 rings you would only bring pigeon racing to a stop some ones got to pay for the transporter !
Guest spin cycle Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 at the end of the day its down to the fancier and the time hes got when i was impartnership with my retired mate we kept more now im racing on my own ive got 9 pair at stock . 17 widowhood cocks all yearlings and there hens i will breed my self 30 youngsters to race . if i wasnt working and i had the time i would have one hundred youngsters and prob 40 widowhood cocks but then i would try and race the full program but as im working full time im just concentrate on the sprints but im not against people sending large numbers and if you limited every one in 20 rings you would only bring pigeon racing to a stop some ones got to pay for the transporter ! conventional lorry transporters are on the way out for most 'feds' . a trailer towed by 4x4 or van is cheaper...so numbers go down and price rises slightly after allowing for the effiency saving. this is going to happen anyway sooner or later.
dwh Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 its a very good question....because partnerships, generally, are going to fly more . in a perfect world i would restrict lofts to 18 pairs of ob and allocate 20 rings per loft for ybs. see your point restricting the amount of pigeons a fancier keeps no but abird limit on racing yes
Guest spin cycle Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 see your point restricting the amount of pigeons a fancier keeps no but abird limit on racing yes i didn't say a birdage limit in racing....but by restricting numbers kept thats what you are effectively doing.
Guest ROCKYandRAMBO Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 why limit people your just cutting your own prize money down and i much prefer it when some one send 40 plus to a race against my six and i win or take the first six its very satisfyin lol
adam owen Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 i think your right keep wat you want but have everybody equal wen sending be alot fairer
Guest spin cycle Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 why limit people your just cutting your own prize money down and i much prefer it when some one send 40 plus to a race against my six and i win or take the first six its very satisfyin lol its all hypothetical (apart from the switch away from lorries which is going to happen) but i don't care about prize money. i want more lofts and i think restricting the number of birds would help. unfortunately the big problem with my plan is that pigeon racing would probably go broke as it needs the money/waste that is yb racing.
Guest spin cycle Posted January 2, 2010 Report Posted January 2, 2010 see your point restricting the amount of pigeons a fancier keeps no but abird limit on racing yes sorry mis read your post. one of our club's members 'mooted' a birdage limit during the season....i then proposed it at a meeting and i was the only one that voted for it (dizzy)
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