RSPB their reply

[Mealy Cock]

I have just received this from the RSPB. They have not answered any of my lengthy e-mail to them I

will of course be writing back to them asking for their evidence.

 

It seems now we are a minority according to the RSPB

 

 

THEIR REPLY.

 

Michael

Our species policy officer has instructed me to point out the

following.

In Britain, there has been a recovery of Peregrine populations, since

the crash of the 1960s. This has been greatly assisted by conservation

and protection work led by the Society. Peregrines now breed in many

mountainous and coastal areas, especially in the west and north, and

nest in some urban areas, capitalizing on the urban pigeon populations

for food.

The UK peregrines are still under threat from illegal killing and nest

disturbance, particularly on land managed for driven grouse shooting.

The RSPB is working to reduce ALL bird decline, based on the best

available evidence. The available scientific evidence clearly shows

predation by birds of prey does not cause declines in their prey

Predation is a 100% natural process and is I no way "sport". Much like

the African lions predating on Gazelle. It is the food chain and

completely natural. A recent RSPB petition hand-in shows how strongly

the public feels about the need to protect our birds of prey, there

remains a minority who see them as pests to be exterminated. Thanks for

the email.

 

Kind Regards,

 

[billt]

Get it sorted ourselves then seems to be the only way, on their survey of the general public, I have been a lifelong "birdie" and I can tell you the general public are extremly ignorent when it comes to recognising a bird let alone what it's feeding habits are  

[Roland]

Need more 'Unsung Hero's'!

[Guest strapper]

I have just received this from the RSPB. They have not answered any of my lengthy e-mail to them I

will of course be writing back to them asking for their evidence.

 

It seems now we are a minority according to the RSPB

 

 

THEIR REPLY.

 

Michael

Our species policy officer has instructed me to point out the

following.

In Britain, there has been a recovery of Peregrine populations, since

the crash of the 1960s. This has been greatly assisted by conservation

and protection work led by the Society. Peregrines now breed in many

mountainous and coastal areas, especially in the west and north, and

nest in some urban areas, capitalizing on the urban pigeon populations

for food.

The UK peregrines are still under threat from illegal killing and nest

disturbance, particularly on land managed for driven grouse shooting.

The RSPB is working to reduce ALL bird decline, based on the best

available evidence. The available scientific evidence clearly shows

predation by birds of prey does not cause declines in their prey

Predation is a 100% natural process and is I no way "sport". Much like

the African lions predating on Gazelle. It is the food chain and

completely natural. A recent RSPB petition hand-in shows how strongly

the public feels about the need to protect our birds of prey, there

remains a minority who see them as pests to be exterminated. Thanks for

the email.

 

Kind Regards,

 

yes it is 100%..that pigeon fanciers want to protect their pigeons.

the difference between peregrines and the lions of africa is...the peregrines are eating someones property you planks!

 

you the RPRA are condeming the peregrines to more attacks when you ignore the plight of pigeon fanciers .

working together will bring a better future to both parties and decrease attacks.

 

pigeon fanciers are blamed for most attacks but there is a wider proportion of the public fed up of their property being attacked by certain members of the birds of prey family.

 

you the RPRA are partly to blame for the deaths of many birds of prey....wake up or suffer more attacks...no one can ignore the facts!

[Guest lenwadebob]

Well they must be real smart Peregrines if they can distinguish between ferel and racing pigeons .............. complete and utter crap and nothing more than expected from that bunch of idiots

[hotrod]

 

yes it is 100%..that pigeon fanciers want to protect their pigeons.

the difference between peregrines and the lions of africa is...the peregrines are eating someones property you planks!

 

you the RPRA are condeming the peregrines to more attacks when you ignore the plight of pigeon fanciers .

working together will bring a better future to both parties and decrease attacks.

 

pigeon fanciers are blamed for most attacks but there is a wider proportion of the public fed up of their property being attacked by certain members of the birds of prey family.

 

you the RPRA are partly to blame for the deaths of many birds of prey....wake up or suffer more attacks...no one can ignore the facts!

 

RPRA  dont you mean rspb mate ?

[rembrant2coo]

 

yes it is 100%..that pigeon fanciers want to protect their pigeons.

the difference between peregrines and the lions of africa is...the peregrines are eating someones property you planks!

 

you the RPRA are condeming the peregrines to more attacks when you ignore the plight of pigeon fanciers .

working together will bring a better future to both parties and decrease attacks.

 

pigeon fanciers are blamed for most attacks but there is a wider proportion of the public fed up of their property being attacked by certain members of the birds of prey family.

 

you the RPRA are partly to blame for the deaths of many birds of prey....wake up or suffer more attacks...no one can ignore the facts!

 

come on strapper get it right , your spelling is way out mate

[Guest strapper]

 

RPRA  dont you mean rspb mate ?

 

yes got worked up over their reply ;D ;D

 

just been reading about the rpra

[hotrod]

 

yes got worked up over their reply ;D ;D

 

just been reading about the rpra

 

yes mate i know what you mean but you wont change them no way ,its a bit like the wife  even if they no their wrong their right  end of .

[Guest strapper]

yes it is 100%..that pigeon fanciers want to protect their pigeons.

the difference between peregrines and the lions of africa is...the peregrines are eating someones property you planks!

 

you the Rspb are condeming the peregrines to more attacks when you ignore the plight of pigeon fanciers .

working together will bring a better future to both parties and decrease attacks.

 

pigeon fanciers are blamed for most attacks but there is a wider proportion of the public fed up of their property being attacked by certain members of the birds of prey family.

 

you the rspb are partly to blame for the deaths of many birds of prey....wake up or suffer more attacks...no one can ignore the facts!

 

this is how i wanted it to be  

[billt]

Got wound up there Paul, I'm not surprised, how can you survey the public on a subject that most know nothing about

[greenlands]

Your pissing against the wind mate,they are all brain dead,well those that have brains.They are all blind aswell,can't see the wood for the trees.

Lindsay

[Guest lenwadebob]

Personally I think it is time to STOP TALKING and advertising to the RSPB snoopers that DO come on this site. We all know the law makers of this country (The Government) are idiots and are fed bull kite by another bunch of idiots (RSPB) in order to justify their cause. TIME FOR ACTION NOW AS WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANYWHERE BY TRYING TO REASON AND GIVE FACTS TO THIS BUNCH WASTERS

[Wizzer]

I am 100% a pigeon fancier and have been for 30 years

However I loose pigeons like everyone else and loose old birds from the loft which obviously is a hawk attack.

Its the way of life these days and don`t care how much we moan about the problem, It will not get any better

so basically we have to put up and shut up about it or pack the sport in.

 

Compaining to anyone will not get you anywhere.

 

its annoying but thats life.

 

Good luck for 2010

[steve d]

I am 100% a pigeon fancier and have been for 30 years

However I loose pigeons like everyone else and loose old birds from the loft which obviously is a hawk attack.

Its the way of life these days and don`t care how much we moan about the problem, It will not get any better

so basically we have to put up and shut up about it or pack the sport in.

 

Compaining to anyone will not get you anywhere.

 

its annoying but thats life.

 

Good luck for 2010

 

If it was only the odd bird we lost around the loft m8 I think people will accept it, however lads are being butchered daily by these predators, I think if you were being hammered daily m8 you wouldn't be so understanding, my 6 year old autistic boy comes and messes aound the loft with me while his mom has an hard earned rest in the house, I brought a dozen roland janseens (grizzles and pieds) for him last year to get a bit of interest, everytime he come up the loft one had been taken on exercise, very difficult to explain to a 6 year old autistic boy that his birds have been taken by these predators, I accept they are about but there numbers are to high :(

 

 

[Wizzer]

 

If it was only the odd bird we lost around the loft m8 I think people will accept it, however lads are being butchered daily by these predators, I think if you were being hammered daily m8 you wouldn't be so understanding, my 6 year old autistic boy comes and messes aound the loft with me while his mom has an hard earned rest in the house, I brought a dozen roland janseens (grizzles and pieds) for him last year to get a bit of interest, everytime he come up the loft one had been taken on exercise, very difficult to explain to a 6 year old autistic boy that his birds have been taken by these predators, I accept they are about but there numbers are to high :(

 

 

Fully understand your situation and appreciate your comments.

However i`ve heard the same old moans and groans for so long and nobody can do anything about it..

If I had a regular hawk  attacking everytime I let out.

I would not buy stock in just to feed the raptors and if it was that bad I would give up or move.

 

 

[cowman]

slightly off topic but i did read that someone was taking their local council to court after attacks on his birds from percy on a council building does anyone have anymore info on this maybe its the way forward to sue them and they wont allow more sites it we can win against them.

[dal2]

anybody got any ideas on a more proactive route as regards getting the attention of the muppets at the royal society

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

RSPB . THEY HAVE NOT ANSWERED YOUR LENGTHY E .MAIL BECAUSEIF THEY TALK TO LONG THEY MAKE A RIGHT ASSSSSS  OF THEMSELVES.....GIVE THEM NO MORE MONEY.......  LET THEM RATTLE THERE TINS SOME WHERE ELSE//////

[sammy]

anybody got any ideas on a more proactive route as regards getting the attention of the muppets at the royal society

 

send them pictures of dead bop  

[shweet]

Are we allowed to shoot them to protect our birds ?

[Guest cowboy]

 

Fully understand your situation and appreciate your comments.

However i`ve heard the same old moans and groans for so long and nobody can do anything about it..

If I had a regular hawk  attacking everytime I let out.

I would not buy stock in just to feed the raptors and if it was that bad I would give up or move.

 

why should you have to give up something you might have been doing for years or move wake up will you  > > > >

 

 

[shweet]

Are we allowed to shoot them to protect our birds ?

 

My point is how else are we to protect them under The Animal Welfare Act from birds of Prey that are causing them pain,  suffering and injury.  http://www.bluecross.org.uk/web/site/News/2007/AWA-new_law_to_protect_pets.asp

[Bluedoo]

There was a programme on BBC  Radio Scotland on Sunday morning. Think it was called "out of doors". They were discussing increased protection for BOP. Also there was talk of "controlling" buzzards. One lady emailed in about the increased protection for raptors, asking who was looking after the small birds, because all the blue tits in her garden had been taken by sparrowhawks. There are other people out there begining to notice too.

[Guest beautyhomer]

Why would they want to control buzzards? :)Maybe its because they will not tolerate other bop