YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS

[Guest]

nifuramycin will get ur birds ok in  a week!..... at most 7 days ;D ;D ;D

[timbarra]

each to their own, but its not a competion and if you can get your birds over it within 7 days invicible then great but that is then followed by 3 days multivitamins which adds upto 10 days in total and my way costs nothing !!!!!

 

 

people make their choices and live by them

 

regards spencer

 

oh and as its a virus .... viruses cant be cured only vaccinated against and yet there is not a vacine against YBSickness... think about it... everyone .

[Clarkey1990]

hi

 

I treat mine youngs with:

 

a. Paramixture injection 4 weeks old

b. ring them.

c. canker tablet

d. cocoxi tablet

e. worming tablet

 

drinking water 7 in 1

 

but the parent birds get:

 

a. canker tablet

b. cocoxi tablet

c. worming tablet

 

and the drinking water 7 in 1

 

This year so far I had to treat mine with additional medication for the drop wing/para legs etc?

 

i hope this helps

 

Surely that amount of medication cant be good. Most pigeon medications now contain antibiotics of one sort or another, which damages the liver and breaks the immune system down. I never threat for anything until it happens and never(touch wood) have been hit with anything bad. I think prevention is the best cure so I use plenty of vitimans etc.

 

Just another theory :)

[Tony C]

 

oh and as its a virus .... viruses cant be cured only vaccinated against and yet there is not a vacine against YBSickness... think about it... everyone .

 

Simple. Not enough money in it for the drug company's. They wont splash out on research, production, trials & licensing if they thought it would only offer them a small return

 

 

[nogin]

 

Simple. Not enough money in it for the drug company's. They wont splash out on research, production, trials & licensing if they thought it would only offer them a small return

 

 

WELL SAID MA MAN.

[matt]

old timer that i share with uses elderberry flower capsuals from h&b 2 to a gal we never get ybs

[klinkley]

 

Surely that amount of medication cant be good. Most pigeon medications now contain antibiotics of one sort or another, which damages the liver and breaks the immune system down. I never threat for anything until it happens and never(touch wood) have been hit with anything bad. I think prevention is the best cure so I use plenty of vitimans etc.

 

Just another theory :)

 

Of which I completely agree with  

 

 

[Guest shadow]

never had young bird sickness all the year's I kept pigeons so could not offer any advice on how to cure it

[Guest]

I think the most difficult thing about YBS is that its a combination illness, with [probably] virus, bacteria and yeast working away at the bird, and everybody's version will be different, from an odd bird looking off colour to the whole team going down big time - lots of feeding vomited all over the place. Have only experienced the odd bird, and that was years ago.

 

My advice is much the same as Sammy's - passed on from my clubmates - that you keep the birds in, don't feed them until the retention stops and crops are empty, then switch to a very light, easily digested diet and build it up with a little grain as the droppings start to form up.

 

I also think that its a 48 hour thing, by 3rd day birds should be getting back to normal, and during this time they would have a crushed garlic bulb per drinker - twice my normal strength - to tackle any combination of microbes. Pay particular attention to loft hygeine, e.g. spray wet patches / wet droppings with disinfectant, pick up and bin vomited feeding before other birds can get at it, and isolate the offending bird etc.

[Gille]

Young bird sickness simple cure. I know this is an older post but it still shows up in google under, "young bird sickness". I figured it might save folks a few loved birds to know what I was fortunate enough to learn before any were lost. I promise it works! It's cheep and it takes less than two days which is far better than most meds and much easier on the birds. And it has zero side effects!

I found out about it a few years back when we had a sick Roller pigeon. He far too beautiful to allow too waist away but we could not afford a vet or meds. So I searched the net and was shocked to read about cinnamon on a ladies blog about her birds. We tried it and he fully recovered within 24 hours. By 48 he was so rambunctious he made the rest look like they needed some too...lol Lethargy? Sleepy, slow moving is one of the effects of young bird sickness. So I watered down the cinamon and added it to all of their water for 48 hours and they all came right back to normal. In my case I think they actually had a cold. What the cinamon does is warm them up and speed up their systems just enough so they can get over the effects of the virus. Anyways the lady claimed it worked for young bird sickness and i have not lost a single bird to illness thanks to her. Once their system has returned to normal adding greens seems to help keep them that way. If their gutt gets overly acidic or too neutral they get the runs. The chlorophil keeps their gutt just right and a healty gutt allows them to keep saminilla and other such things in check. They always have it with them but they are healty and so their immune systems can keep it it check. Think of cinamon as a temporary immune booster.

I have since learned that Cinnamons is a powerful anti-microbial agent that kill can kill E. coli and other bacteria.

How Much - "One spoon of Cinnamon mixed with 1/2 a pint of hot water add to water fountain, Birds should be on the mend within 24 hrs"

The above was for one pigeon. I made a second batch using the same directions and added it to our 2 gallon jug which i use to water all the coops for the next 2 days. Within 48 hours there was no longer anything wrong in any of the coops. I reciently spoke with a veteran breeder and he explained young birds just starting the first molt no longer have the immunities given them by their parents. The amunities use to be in a gland. The gland that use to cause them to squeek which has shrunk by the time they molt. It use to help protect them but now without the immunities a virus gets into the gland and they get young bird sickness. I have noticed this is no different than with our kids. Each fall the first cold snap hits and within a week colds and worse are hitting them one after the other. A little cinnamon can save your bird, if you don't have any borrow some from a neighbor. While your at it make a cinnamon tea for yourself and sweeten it with honey. Got kids? Make lots!

[pigeonpete]

Interesting post gille, many thanks, im sure some will try it, does it mix with water easily?

[dwh]

GONNA TRY IT OWTS BETTER THAN PUTTING MEDS INTO THEM HOPING IT WORKS

[Guest IB]

I looked at cinnamon after being advised by a friend a couple of years ago that it was helpful for type 2 diabetes. Cinnamon has a lot of antimicrobial properties, including effective against salmonella and e-coli. There is a thread on it on here.

 

http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1233945359/s-13/highlight-cinnamon/#num13

 

as well as individual posts, watch out for different spellings though, cinnamon, and cinamon, when searching.  

 

[On the diabetes front, yes it was considered helpful in some countries that can't afford the drug of choice, Metformin, but tests showed that it was not as effective as Metformin, nor were there any enhanced benefits of taking cinnamon when you were also taking Metformin.]

 

 

[THE FIFER]

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[Guest robscott]

i only had yb sickness once.i treated birds with rotaboost 2000 (now called rotaboost 5000) the birds were right as rain 3 days,once birds were A1 i was told to put a tiny drop of vanodine 18 in the drinker once a week,i never had yb sickness again after that.everyone has there own ideas on how yb get sick,i think its bad ventilation in loft,but thats just my 2 cents on the matter,

[greenlands]

Try this once/week.Some lads swear by it.

Might not stop them from getting it but it helps them get over it.JMO.

Bitter stimulant powder.

 

http://www.garyspavinherbs.harrisonhullracingpigeons.co.uk/3.html

 

http://www.garyspavinherbs.harrisonhullracingpigeons.co.uk/prod_desc_3_1.html?sno=298

[sapper756]

What if any, are the current proven medications to cure Young Bird Sickness?

[neila]

I was told to use Domestos original. But as long as its hydrochloride bleach I dont think it makes any difference. I havnt tried the citrus fresh yet though ;D ;D

 

I put a teaspoon of domestics in a 4 pint drinker once a week and just top it up for 2 or 3 days I think it helps clean the crop

My old birds get it for 10 days prior to breeding for the stock and about 3 or 4 weeks before the season for the racers

[REDCHEQHEN]

The quoted section neila has put on from mealybar suggests bleach is hydrochloride - it isn't it's hypochlorite and totally different as hydrochloride is acid and hypochlorite is alkali

 

Just saying