barry Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 wats the cure for yb sickness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy white Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 i should say that there are many so called cures, every one so called better than others, im sure you will get plenty of advise in the following posts, but i would say the cheif cause of this is STRESS??? i sincerely wish you well with them barry, as i know what a worry it is,good luck jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 this is what drives me around the bend - Young Bird Sickness. What is it? No body knows, thats what the problem is, you start giving them treatment, that doesnt work then you give them something else and in the end you have done them more harm than good. I have always said if i get it or should i say something that looks like it i will not be pumping stuff into them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 I used adenosan by chevita and it done the trick,they picked up well within the weeks treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 whats that if you dont mind me asking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Adenosan by Chevita is what I used this year, this being my first year of ever seeing yb sickness, and it worked wonders. The problem with yb sickness is it seems to open them up to other problems, especially when stressed. After every race I give then Adenosan on the corn for three days, which seems to keep it at bay. Bilco has been selling a product called Xerek which he sells for £5 per sachet and this apparently cures YBS straight away. Mine seemed to have got it from sitting on the house roof and picking about in the garden, as they would often peck about in the gutter and then be sick a few hours later. Now they are trained once a day at 30mile and have to come straight in so they dont peck about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Go to http://www.chevita.com/tauben/e-index3.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 That site can help solve a few problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Sbelbin,Do you think your birds picked it up from the moss on the roof or slabs in the garden as I stongly believe that this is one of the main reasons that they get YBS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Ive heard of that theory B4, and they could have as my gutters are the old cast iron type and are a bit mossy. Cant really say what it is in the garden but they seemed to peck about in the mud and then spuw up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mealybar Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Touch wood, never had the full blown YBS; if I see a yb holding corn, or one has thrown their nights meal up, all I do is, the next day put a spoonfull of bleach in the water; it just disinfects it so the problem isnt passed round. Then its up to the yb itself to sort it out, I think its better if they overcome it themselves, but by the next night doing that they are usually back on, if not they get removed from the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 When you say bleach, do u mean just household bleach?? Can you use milton, is it safe if the birds drink it etc???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdbrain Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 my dad used milton!!! he would add a quarter of the tablet to the birds water, and it never seemed to do any harm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 did he ever use milton in liquid form if so, how much per drinker?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mealybar Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 I was told to use Domestos original. But as long as its hydrochloride bleach I dont think it makes any difference. I havnt tried the citrus fresh yet though ;D ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westwater Assassin Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 THE FAMOUS YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS !!! FIRST AND FOREMOST FELLOW PIGEON FANCIERS DON'T START PANICKING AND TREAT THEM WITH EVERY MEDICINE UNDER THE SUN, BEEN THERE, DONE IT, GOT QUITE A FEW T-SHIRTS. FIRSTLY MR JIMMY WHITE YOU ARE 100% CORRECT IN SAYING STRESS IS THE ROOT CAUSE. I'M NOW TALKING FROM EXPERIENCE HERE. SENT MY FULL "A" TEAM OF YOUNG BIRDS TO THE FIRST RACE. SENT 23 AND GOT 22 HOME, CAN'T GRUMBLE 1st & 4th CLUB,KEPT THEM IN ON THE SUNDAY AS ALWAYS AND ON THE MONDAY MORNING BEFORE GOING TO WORK WENT IN THE LOFT AND NOTICED SOME FEEDING ON THE EASILY CLEAN PERCHES, I THEN HANDLED A FEW BIRDS AND NOTICED THEY WERE RETAINING THERE FEEDING, THE DREADED YB SICKNESS HAD ARRIVED. THE FIRST THING I DID WAS? NOW THERE WILL BE A FEW GASPS !!!! OPENED THE SLIDING DOOR TO MY "B" TEAM OF YOUNG BIRDS SO THEY CAN BOTH MIX, EAT , AND DRINK THE SAME WATER. THE REASON I DO THIS IS BECAUSE ONCE THEY GET THE YBS AND OVERCOME IT I FEEL THEY NEVER GET IT AGAIN. THE TREATMENTS USED WERE A PRODUCT CALLED "PROTRIL" FROM PIGEON HEALTH, UK ANIMAL PRODUCTS IT IS A POWDER TO BE USED IN WATER FOR SEVERE WET DROPPINGS. IN CONJUNCTION WITH "PROTRIL" I USE NATURAL PRO-BIOTIC YOGHURT ON TOP OF 100% DEPURATIVE, MIX IT IN WITH THE DEPURATIVE AND GIVE IT TIME TO DRY (3 -4 HOURS) IF POSSIBLE FEED THEM 3 - 4 TIMES PER DAY IN SMALL AMOUNTS.THIS MAKES THEM DRINK THE WATER AS WELL. KEEP YOUR BIRDS IN ! NO EXERCISE, AND TAKE AWAY ALL GRITS AND MINERALS AS I FEEL THIS HINDERS THE TREATMENTS. AFTER 2 DAYS I NOTICED MY "B" TEAM SHOWING THE SAME SYMPTOMS AND AFTER 6 DAYS IT HAD CLEARED. I STARTED GIVING THE CRUMBLE BLOCKS AFTER 6 DAYS AS I FEEL IT DRYS THEM UP AND ON THE 7TH DAY I LET THEM OUT FOR A FLY (45MINS) AND THEY WERE FLYING FOR THAT TIME. I GRADUALLY STARTED MIXING YB MIXTURE IN WITH THE DEPURATIVE OVER 3 DAYS AND TRAINING STARTED ON THE 10TH DAY. SO IN ALL 10 DAYS, YBS CAME AND WENT, THE BIRDS ARE LOOKING GREAT, I KNOW I MISSED A YOUNG BIRD RACE BUT WHY PUT OTHER FANCIERS PIGEONS AT RISK AS WELL??? SENT 22 TO THE THIRD YB RACE(80 MILES) 19 BIRDS HOME WITHIN 15 MINS ??? 20/22 RETURNS?? THE ONLY THING I PUT IT DOWN TO WAS STRESS FROM THE FIRST TIME IN THE TRANSPORTER, AND MIXING WITH OTHER BIRDS. THIS IS MY FINDINGS AND HAS WORKED FOR ME IF IT HELPS 1 FANCIER THE IT HAS BEEN WORTH WRITING IT. CHEERS LADS CHEERS TO THUNDER HE KNOWS WHY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 God story that and worth trying cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 good not god sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Syringing natural Yogurt straight into the crop does wonders and put friendly bacteria in the digestive tract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Go to our webpage www.redroselofts.co, and click on what we use. You will see a Product called Chisholm Train Health Products, best thing since sliced bread, never had young bird sickness. John Exports to the United Kingdom and I know of several fanciers using this already over the pond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 should read redroselofts.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaypied Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 If they are really hunching up spewing green slime and dying like adenovirus nothing "cures" a virus but having had them drop from perches and die within 5 hours spoke to an avian specialist Vet in the states and he recommended 5 days of baytril and a heavy duty probiotic and vitamins. The baytril prevented andy secondary bacterial infection and the probiotic replaced the bad bacteria with good anf the multi vits give the system a shot 5 days and the birds went from close to death to flying half an hour. Dont like medicating but it worked . Darn hard to watch your YBs hunch and die within 5 hours also santised drinkers and scrubbed loft with solution of bleach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NUMA Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 i had yb sickness a few years ago and its heart breaking watching your ybs drop off the perches dead and the ones that do get through it so miserable.i decided 4 years ago that it was down to stress and mixing with sick birds in the race crates so i stopped racing my ybs ,i just trained them to 120 miles and they flew well as yearlings.the past couple of years iv'e not started racing the ybs until the 4th race, in my mind all the sick birds have been lost by then ,so far no yb sickness since i started to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shadow Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 many years ago I read an artical from a belgium fancier about various ail ments fron respiritory to Y/Bs and he advised treating all his birds with cider vinegar in the water for two weeks after the moult and then again in june and his birds ailed nothing. I have done the same and never had YBS in fact I take the treatment one stage further and they all get cyder vinegar on their feed every tuesday. Good luck with your birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 Just heard that the FDA in America have banned the use of Baytril in Poultry, not a lot of fanciers use this productd don't know yet if it will be completely taken off the marketct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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