multi-vitamin

[tomkirby1]

can you tell me anything about multi-vitamins what is a good one please

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Abidec for babies..

[Fair Play]

Got it cheap from Superdrug in the town centre

[Guest frank dooman]

there are lot to chose from many as good as one another i use the natural one it does for me

[ALF]

I have been using Abidec aswell if it's good enough for new born children it's good enough for pigeons

[Babybird]

[ if it's good enough for new born children it's good enough for pigeons

 

What a funny thing to say ;D

fail to see the connection between new born babies and pigeons :-/

I use Harkavit - plus and my birds are well on it

[andrecrock]

so many on the market,i have tryde all sorts.Dont make no diffrence to my birds.Im with babybird on this,Harkavit.

[wilkins]

vita pro , cheap and last ages not sure if the birds really need muti vits , i so think they need amino acids and iron was thinking of stopping the multi vits once they run out

and use impact and one of the amino acid supplements

[pjc]

metatone   ;)

[pigeonpete]

Vita pro combo for me :-)

 

abidec?? will go google now :-)

[smiler]

i use adidec  

[Guest TAMMY_1]

Vita pro combo for me :-)

 

abidec?? will go google now :-)

 

Same thing we use Pete, have done for years and do not intend changing .

[blackdog]

vita pro , cheap and last ages not sure if the birds really need muti vits , i so think they need amino acids and iron was thinking of stopping the multi vits once they run out

and use impact and one of the amino acid supplements

 

same here, and cheap as chips

 

 

[greenlands]

metatone   ;)

Got a bottle for myself,knocked the stomach sideways so I gave it to the birds ,seems to do the job,vita pro combo,if I had to buy any.

Lindsay.

 

[Guest IB]

I'd tried a couple of liquid multi-vits for the drinker, one you'd to do strength A then Strength B, noted with the stronger dose the birds drank less, and started to drink from gutters.

 

Then discovered that the stuff isn't real vitamins, its synthetic, a chemical copy of them made in a lab, with no proof that they act same way as the real thing within the body. That put me on to natural supply through feeding greens. Body also needs only a very small quantity - how small? Well if you stopped taking vitamin B12 today, 2 Dec 2009, it would be 2 Dec 2029 before you showed signs of vitamin B12 deficiency.

 

And the final nail in the coffin for using multi-vits for me was learning that gut bacteria manufacture vitamins, which you and your pigeons then digest.

 

 

 

 

[just ask me]

I'd tried a couple of liquid multi-vits for the drinker, one you'd to do strength A then Strength B, noted with the stronger dose the birds drank less, and started to drink from gutters.

 

Then discovered that the stuff isn't real vitamins, its synthetic, a chemical copy of them made in a lab, with no proof that they act same way as the real thing within the body. That put me on to natural supply through feeding greens. Body also needs only a very small quantity - how small? Well if you stopped taking vitamin B12 today, 2 Dec 2009, it would be 2 Dec 2029 before you showed signs of vitamin B12 deficiency.

 

And the final nail in the coffin for using multi-vits for me was learning that gut bacteria manufacture vitamins, which you and your pigeons then digest.

 

 

 

 

 

interesting ib about the b12 vitamin may i ask or do u remember where u read this

[dwh]

vito pro  or naturall

[greenlands]

Interesting bit on Vit B12. IB,my late mother was injected with it every two week so going by your statement once every 20 year would have been ample ?

Lindsay

[Guest IB]

Interesting bit on Vit B12. IB,my late mother was injected with it every two week so going by your statement once every 20 year would have been ample ?

Lindsay

 

Hi we’ve spoken before on this. In hindsight my statement was too broad-brush, and I should have said it applied to ‘normal healthy people’. Small world, learned 2/3 weeks ago my boss of 2 years, also suffers from the same condition, and requires B12 injections into the muscle, very painful I’m told.

 

 

I’m sorry to hear of your mum’s illness. I was puzzled by B12 being injected rather than being given a B12 supplement. I’d referred in a previous post to vegan’s but that should be vegetarian’s website which I’d visited a while back looking at B12 info. This extract from that Site explains the circumstances when an injection is needed, and it appears it’s down to not being able to digest it, rather than not eating food containing it:---.

 

When deficiency occurs, it is more commonly linked to a failure to effectively absorb B12 from the intestine rather than a dietary deficiency. Absorption of B12 requires the secretion from the cells lining the stomach of a glycoprotein, known as intrinsic factor. The B12-intrinsic factor complex is then absorbed in the ileum (part of the small intestine) in the presence of calcium. Certain people are unable to produce intrinsic factor and the subsequent pernicious anaemia is treated with injections of B12.

 

Vitamin B12 can be stored in small amounts by the body. Total body store is 2-5mg in adults. Around 80% of this is stored in the liver.

 

Vitamin B12 is excreted in the bile and is effectively reabsorbed. This is known as enterohepatic circulation. The amount of B12 excreted in the bile can vary from 1 to 10ug (micrograms) a day. People on diets low in B12, including vegans and some vegetarians, may be obtaining more B12 from reabsorption than from dietary sources. Reabsorption is the reason it can take over 20 years for deficiency disease to develop in people changing to diets absent in B12. In comparison, if B12 deficiency is due to a failure in absorption it can take only 3 years for deficiency disease to occur.

 

Extract from:-

 

http://www.vegsoc.org/info/b12.html

 

 

The Feb 2009 thread on vitamins from which this post is taken, can be found at:-

 

http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1233589324/s-27/highlight-pernicious/#num27

 

 

 

[Guest IB]

 

 

interesting ib about the b12 vitamin may i ask or do u remember where u read this

 

 

http://www.vegsoc.org/info/b12.html

 

 

[mac1]

I have been using Abidec aswell if it's good enough for new born children it's good enough for pigeons

 

how much to 5 litres mate,i used it for my ybs think it was 5ml to 2 litres :-/

[Guest blythy1]

i use gervit-w from rohnfried.

[robbiedoo.]

vita-max from orphrama contains amino acids and lots of different kinds of vitimans i would,nt be without it great stuff.

[Guest BRYANBROCK]

can you tell me anything about multi-vitamins what is a good one please[/quote

 

try gem supplemts they sell multi vits have been using for years

consider it to be the best around  gem vits      ;)