Guest Vic Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Over the years, I have heard how some of our Aces, one in particular, Les Kilshaw, didn't feed his pigeons for a couple of days , (now and then, before mating) Seeing the temperature is rising, after such a cold snap, with a 50% barley diet, I am missing the odd feed, while the weather is warming. What do other guys think?
Blue Chequer Pied Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Totally agree Vic. I do it for hens only and miss a feed for one day every couple of weeks. Helps keep fat off them if they are not getting excercise and will help allieviate any breeding problems with the hens when pairing comes round (hopefully) Paul.
Guest IB Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 There was advice on here a year or two ago, to starve stock birds for a week. Personally I think that is wrong, and I do not see the point of missing meals either. Mine are seperated and fed just enough for their needs.
ALF Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Been doing it myself aswell and just before xmas when i was out the game with the flu i missed 2 days and the birds were fine still plenty of water left in the drinker as there are'nt many in each section...I dont make a habit of missing 2 days but it wont do them any harm
Delboy Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Fast for a day to get the vital organs working and watch the down fall.
ALF Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 There was advice on here a year or two ago, to starve stock birds for a week. Personally I think that is wrong, and I do not see the point of missing meals either. Mine are seperated and fed just enough for their needs. Done this myself last year with a fat hen Ian.An old ex fancier told me to put her in a basket in a dark hut and only to give her fresh water every day for a week and when she came back out what a difference in her so would'nt hesitate in doing it again if a found a really fat hen
Tony C Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Who am I to say Les Kilshaw was wrong BUT...... lol Did Les go for winter breeding or perhaps pair up in March? I would say it makes a difference.
Guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 would only feed my birds 13 out of 15 days after moult finished til before pairing.
Blue Chequer Pied Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Fast for a day to get the vital organs working and watch the down fall. Spot on. I would never do for more than one day although they are more robust than we think. It is the same for cats and dogs, their metabolism is not designed for them to be overfed or even fed everyday. hence the reason all the health problems cats and dogs develop why should it be different for pigeons if done sensibly. Paul.
andrew gooch Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 my self and friend trevor cook do not feed on the day of basketing but every day apart from this thay are fed. we have extremely good results with this
Blue Chequer Pied Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 my self and friend trevor cook do not feed on the day of basketing but every day apart from this thay are fed. we have extremely good results with this Dont agree with that one Andrew but each to their own. Paul.
Guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Over the years, I have heard how some of our Aces, one in particular, Les Kilshaw, didn't feed his pigeons for a couple of days , (now and then, before mating) Seeing the temperature is rising, after such a cold snap, with a 50% barley diet, I am missing the odd feed, while the weather is warming. What do other guys think? ;)another secret out of the bag andy.
Guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 In the book East to West Kevin Hurst says he fasts birds for 3 days to clear the system
DeDarren Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 My mate and I travelled up to John Crowder's during our mis-spent youth and the old master told us that periodically throughout the year, he refrained from feeding or watering his charges for a period of 3 days and it really sorted his birds out. We did try the feeding bit, but gave them water and apart from the bright green droppings, the birds seemed a lot brighter and more controllable afterwards, and there was also the tell-tale profusion of down feathers on the perches. It is also recommended in the Feed to Win book, where the writer states that when being forced to fast, the pigeon's metabolism will consume anything it can find lingering within the system like viral matter, which may account for the pigeons seemingly improved condition after such treatment and on the rare occasion we get the odd bird looking a bit humpy or going off it's chuck, we seperate them, refrain from feeding for a number of days, providing only fluids with electrolytes and more often than not this seems to do the trick.
nagid Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 i know a lot of fanciers that need starved for a week or even two weeeks :-/ :-/ :-/
Guest Vic Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 One of the best ever Liverpol flyers from the past, was the president of my own club, the Croxteth Homing Society for years (pre W/H) in and out, was a guy called Peter Don., (during marble losing time) that he NEVER fed his race birds on a Friday, and sometimes not on a Thursday. Like RAFA said "These are facts"
Roland Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Well in the nick, in the good ole days, it was three days dinners, 3 days bread and water, and one day nowt. likewise when keeping fish, one or two days no feed. One they would pick up any left around, and 2nd day allows the system to cleanse it's self out. Have the odd time left the day out, and they never hurt none, improve any? well I don't know, but certainly won't hurt much. Left them a day with out when i cahnge to the tic beans... first off picked and threw every where. Next day rationed, cleaned them up... now I can leave full and they not throw about. All in all a good thing... gives an edge to controlling them too.
Guest Vic Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 One of the best ever Liverpol flyers from the past, was the president of my own club, the Croxteth Homing Society for years (pre W/H) in and out, was a guy called Peter Don., (during marble losing time) that he NEVER fed his race birds on a Friday, By giving all these secrets away, Don't you think that Vic must be losing his marbles.LOL
robbiedoo. Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 fasting for 1 day during winter fair play even though i dont do it personaly.as for doing it during racing season what happens if its a holdover or realy hard race starve your birds to try and win a race bad crack in my eyes but everyman to their own
Blue Tooner Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Agree with Robbiedoo okay during the winter but not during racing season. As Pol Bostyn said, "Long distance racing is very severe for a fancier who has not been severe with his pigeons during the winter"
robbiedoo. Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 know a guy up here who is very strict with his feeding realy good flyer up to 200mile after that never heard of proof is in the pudding
Guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 One of the best ever Liverpol flyers from the past, was the president of my own club, the Croxteth Homing Society for years (pre W/H) in and out, was a guy called Peter Don., (during marble losing time) that he NEVER fed his race birds on a Friday, By giving all these secrets away, Don't you think that Vic must be losing his marbles.LOL ;D ;D ;Dits too late Vic,marbles almost gone ;D andy.
andrew gooch Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 when u have wh cock in top race condition u are wasting you time trying to feed the day of basketing because thay will not eat however most say fasting is good for them so y not before competition
Delboy Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 One of the best ever Liverpol flyers from the past, was the president of my own club, the Croxteth Homing Society for years (pre W/H) in and out, was a guy called Peter Don., (during marble losing time) that he NEVER fed his race birds on a Friday, By giving all these secrets away, Don't you think that Vic must be losing his marbles.LOL I will always feed my birds on a Friday just in case they make a mistake on Saturday and then they will have the reserves to correct it.
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