Wiley

Get yourself some electronic scales

Tony, you know my views pal, i want to race against the best competition available, if thats welcoming another club in to make our current club stronger then the more the merrier

I used to think that wattie, until i actually uploaded everything to the system, and within a second i can find out anything i want about my birds, how many children, granchildren and great grandchildren of particular birds are in the loft ect ect, its fantastic without having to have a cupboard full of paper work and having to scan through it, and if any birds leave the loft a pedigree is printed off readily and supplied to the new owner. I wouldnt be without one now, and the mrs is much happier theres no paper work or books lying about all over the place

No novice defiantly didnt spoil a discussion just reiterated clearer on what i was trying to get at in the first place, so hopefully from your post people can understand clearer by what i meant. Id love to hear the views

Thanks for the reply dal, but from your previous reply we can say that in your loft at least Clean Water, Clean Food and possibly the simple grit doesnt conform....so apart from the plenty of ventilation, in your loft and my own loft the days of yesteryear of Clean Water, Clean Food, Plenty of Ventilation and Grit are long gone, as i use supplementation in my water, and on my feed, aswell as a matrix type grit and my lofts are completely boxed in when racing comes, but during the winter and when rearing they receive plenty of ventilation.

This is really where i wanted the post to go regarding the use of supplementation Novice, to see if the days of Clean Water(Nothing added at ALL including things like garlic, cider cinegar ect) clean feed (nothing used on the feed for example oils, vitamins, powders ect ect) , plenty of ventilation(open loft of the dowelled fronts of years gone by) and just grit( plain simple jane no fancy matrix or any other one)

Del, just asking as it didnt sound quiet clear to me from your response, that the birds receive no vitamins, additivies, or medication via the water or feed during the racing season?

Is he still at the top now Rolly, or is the clean feed, clean water, clean grit and plenty of ventilation a thing of yesteryear?

How many people that are extremely successful just using Clean Water, Clean Food, Grit and Plenty Of Ventilation. Ive recently just watched 13 pigeon DVDs in a row, and not one of the fanciers featured gave 100% clean water, or 100% clean food, they all used an additive of some sort at certain times of the week. They also all basically threw peoples believes about ventilation out of window, all lofts completely closed, and only air exchange was during times of entering and leaving the loft. The only similarities i saw was the use of clean grit, plenty of sunshine and phenomenal results. How many people are extremely successful with just clean food, clean water, grit and plenty of ventilation, or are those days completely gone forever?

If the chap above doesnt buy them all, id be extrememly interested in Feed to win volume 1 and 2 if the price is right

Have a word with a chap on facebook any pigeon dvd real cheap

Used it every day for years now no problems

All the best

It can happen frustrating but it does....for years now ive always kept the bowls upside down, or put a house brick or block of wood in the box, so the hen can get somewhere high out of the cocks way from being hurt. The bowls only get turnt over when im 100% certain they have taken to each other

Will put up for offer a book 'The Basis Of Breeding Racing Pigeons' by Leon F Whitney.

Well done

Find out dates for it nxt year pal as long as it dont clash with blackpool ill come

Thank you harry your words mean a lot pal. I wish you all the success in the world buddy, and look forward to seeing you next year with the photos of your new loft.

Hope the pair of ya had a nice weekend.....have to say highlight for me was seeing my pal Harry, he was truly missed last year.

Are you using lights?

2nd picture is a cracker

Shhh u wasnt supposed to tell anyone

Bought blue cock Champion Ted, from the plush strain for my boy

Their supplements are the best as well, i use strike 2 every single week 52 weeks of the year