Roland

Blackjack, I said in the post 'Decent' Sections. I hardly fell, which validates my point that: BICC new North section is at 620 miles from Pau International race point. so The sections remain the same across the UK to the south of us, but the new North section runs across the top of the three existing south/central/ east sections. Which is below that 620 race, the country split down the middle. If I, or anyone else here abouts had a good bird, it would go un noticed.... though we have had one twice noew, or nearly, and that didn't even light a candle. Sections will never be made more level because those that attend, dominate, and others can't get in a position to help ..... yes if voted on, they are out voted to keep the status qua. And the sport gets stiffled even more. Now sooner than later, which will be never, the sections will be in lengths towards the Lib point / wind, and not the fiasco of forever catering for the East Boys. All I would do via joining a National is bolster the coffers - in the main and mostly - of the East Coast boys. I'd rather spend the money on feed, and training, and concentrate on the Ferderation etc. And then the Almagation ... Pity we can't have a few more Alma, and then Joined to make combines, and ALL part of a national, Cheaper racing and every week more meriteous chances. Yes it is simple to do ... but...

I have lights ... I only use them when too dark to see what I'm doing ;D Mind that is, as I believe it should be. No need for false lighting I feel...

open to debate I feel... http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/1/15/how-cell-phones-are-killing-birds.aspx

No prob ...

I well understand that Stu, and so do most of us... the best in decent and fairer Sections though for me. I will never beat say the N.East boys on their' day etc. so why should we pump our money into their coffers. Let all section go by Length, and not so much width, and let Section places actually be them meriteous. JMO

Ummm Blackjack pricey is very true, but on the downer regards BICC the winer gets about £25 - £30 - Rose of course can put that right if needs be. Futher with BICC there are no sections as such. I know most 'Nationals' only favour the better Locations, and is geared for the fringes to supplement their coffers. So I have resigned from the BICC /NFC /MNFC etc. andjsut pay me full subs, and donation to te South Rd. Club this last season ... Will I join? Would only choose one National club, the cheapest to go Pau / Barcelona etc. Then again, they waste our mpney by staying seperate, they should throw the lot together in regards transporting them, and ALL go to the Main distance races together! JMO So am I rejoining ... posiblely just one.

Often hear 'Best to Best ... which must also mean 'Worst to Worst' ;D ;D I personally am more interested in the metal fibre, the constitution shown, if any ...

Dovecot at Newton is a fasinating piece of work. It also derides, Darkness ans ricketts, water... can't get any till weaned and flying out, and above all 'Overcrowding'. Must have housed 1000's, did count them once....

should read ... any rules, to prevent them not accepting anyone.... only those made to prevent certain ones from joining..

Don't think there is, never has been unfortunately - any rules, to prevent.... only those made to prevent. Likewise when clubs reform and leave would be ET members, or would be disabled There has always been these clubs, and unfortunately a higher % of those like that, than those not members. When I moved house and area - through divorce - I say unashamedly, that I was possibly one of two, if not the hardest, and best clubman. Both clubs made silly excuses not to let me back ... Yes I am in three, and yes the worst location flyer in all three, but at least I am flying ... both clubs would / or have asked be to join, again offering silly reason why it would e ok now to join! I know it is for selfish motives and what I can do for the. They can all get knotted. Hope the lad gets somewhere to learn his trade, have his fun before we lose another that is ill afforded. And if the local club changes it's mind, let's hope he gets in before he is successful, or his chances are reduced rapidly. P.s I don't think for a moment that they are jealous of an 11 yearold...But who am I to think :K) :K) ;D

Yes

Price is POA he says.

Yes Fifer, as one may recal in one of my earlier posts regarding the 'Ferals' in Haworth when then ... absolutely first class condition, and nigh - from 10 feet - great looking.

JUST A NOTE WITH A SAD ENDING LETTING YOU KNOW THAT BOB ROWLAND PASSED AWAY AT 5 THIS AM. For thoses that knew him / or of him

Yep welcome mucker.

Never said - or meant I believed it myself. Just an interesting thesis.

Good of yer matey ... Put my name down please, near the top ... 450 time ;D Thanks

Must be mad, ,,,, put my name down at the top ... 350 times :K) ;D ;D

Lol put another pun in lol... need a secretary here pronto ... could afford one not buying all thoses drinks at Blackpool too I guess ;D

Get away with yer ;D Am not going - The misses bought me late last Novemeber 'Meatloaf' tickets foWhat’s one upmanship got to do with it Roland? Do you think I should ignore or better still row and fall out with my neighbour cause he has a better car than me and likes to talk about it? I think not! Live and let live its all interesting and makes the world go round... Bully for me and tough S**t on him then, and hang the cost to the fancy as long as I'm alright then Jack eh! I offered / proposed in one club that might be interested that while there were manual clocker’s in the club, they received 15 seconds. All accept this in principle, except the one that seems hell bent on having one 'No, stuff that, why should I give away anything I can gain on them ... besides if they want one, tell them to get one' ... Could well be that there will a 'forming' a club without the likes of him ... a Manual clocker’s only club if you like, where no one is 'WILLING OR ABLE' to set the ET up ... Now they won't be discriminating against anyone ... just like now, only letting in those that we want. Now that will be a pity. Faster clocking, no birds getting trap shy, and a quarter of a mile start on the manual clocker’s' somewhere some one is being discriminated against lol. But then... stuff them I'm alright eh!

What’s one upmanship got to do with it Roland? Do you think I should ignore or better still row and fall out with my neighbour cause he has a better car than me and likes to talk about it? I think not! Live and let live its all interesting and makes the world go round... Bully for me and tough S**t on him then, and hang the cost to the fancy as long as I'm alright then Jack eh! I offered / proposed in one club that might be interested that while there were manual clocker’s in the club, they received 15 seconds. All accept this in principle, except the one that seems hell bent on having one 'No, stuff that, why should I give away anything I can gain on them ... besides if they want one, tell them to get one' ... Could well be that there will a 'forming' a club without the likes of him ... a Manual clocker’s only club if you like, where no one is 'WILLING OR ABLE' to set the ET up ... Now they won't be discriminating against anyone ... just like now, only letting in those that we want. Now that will be a pity. Faster clocking, no birds getting trap shy, and a quarter of a mile start on the manual clocker’s' somewhere some one is being discriminated against lol. But then... stuff them I'm alright eh!

First class realistic and very true Post!! Think on it, there are very many reasons put in the above post as to why Deep litter has many and above all good merits ... :

Just read again what you said...Lazy Fanciers :-/

Can't believe that you can even entertain it IF you have to ask what's and why it for and how to use it :'( Yes sad indeed.

Great set up mate, loverly looking and fit birds ... good luck this coming season ...