Roland

12$ is just over £6.

Hens in first, let them settle then the cock birds, they will mate and go to the hen's nestbox and no fighting.... or at best very little, - usually when the cock goes next door by mistake, quite quickly remmended.

Yes exactly Tammy ... Golly who cares what others bid if your's is the highest. ... as long as the rihtfull bidder gets the bird!!!

Any bid should count ... provided that the winning bid, and say two or three if need be are confirmed. Shame Stu has taken that road, for I feel that some that wanted his birds. and others now possibly, are going to lose out at getting them at a great reduction of true value. Golly who cares what others bid if your's is the highest.

The Inland Revenue decides to audit Paddy, and summons him to an appointment with the most thorough auditor in the office. The auditor is not surprised when Paddy shows up with his solicitor. The auditor says, "Well, sir, you have an extravagant lifestyle and no full-time employment, which you explain by saying that you win money gambling. I'm not sure the Inland Revenue finds that believable." "I'm a great gambler, and I can prove it," says Paddy. "How about a demonstration?" The auditor thinks for a moment and says, "Okay. You're on!" Paddy says, "I'll bet you a thousand pound that I can bite my own eye." The auditor thinks a moment and says, "No way! It's a bet." Paddy removes his glass eye and bites it. The auditor's jaw drops. Paddy says, "Now, I'll bet you two thousand pound that I can bite my other eye." The auditor can tell Paddy isn't blind, so he takes the bet. Paddy removes his dentures and bites his good eye. The stunned auditor now realises he has bet and lost three thousand quid, with Paddy's solicitor as a witness. He starts to get nervous. "Would you like to go double or nothing?" Paddy asks. "I'll bet you six thousand pound that I can stand on one side of your desk and pee into that rubbish bin on the other side, and never get a drop anywhere in between." The auditor, twice burned, is cautious now, but he looks carefully and decides there's no way Paddy can manage that stunt, so he agrees again. Paddy stands beside the desk and unzips his trousers, but although he strains like hell, he can't make the stream reach the bin on other side, so he pretty much urinates all over the auditor's desk. The auditor leaps with joy, realising that he has just turned a major loss into a big win. But Paddy's solicitor moans and puts his head in his hands. "Are you okay?" the auditor asks. "Not really," says the solicitor. "This morning, when Paddy told me he'd been summoned for an audit, he bet me £20,000 that he could come in here and p*ss all over your desk - and that you'd be happy about it!" Mujibar was trying to get a job in India . The Personnel Manager said, "Mujibar, you have passed all the tests, except one. Unless you pass it , you cannot qualify for this job." Mujibar said, "I am ready." The manager said, "Make a sentence using the words Yellow, Pink and Green .." Mujibar thought for a few minutes and said, "Mister manager, I am ready" The manager said, "Go ahead." Mujibar said, "The telephone goes green, green, and I pink it up, and say, ' Yellow' , this is Mujibar." Mujibar now works at a call center. No doubt you have spoken to him. I know I have.

£170 ... what you want eh! Blood Golly at that price I'll have 6 confirmed, and I ain't sa lover of Van beele, or Mike, but thaey have to be worth that!

Have to disagree with that old crap scenario big time, class of birds, and the person have nothing to do with it. Stu is most probably a class gent, and his birds. But to imply that persons that don't see eye to eye over any matter needn't, and in 98% of the time have nothing whatsoever to do with jealousy. Indeed I am always somewhat amazed that that ole chestnut id offered so often that it has, unfortunately, and may I say, all to often disgracefully used as a Red Herring and hgloss over as if fact. I'd wager that that notion never entered Stu's head in this occasion. P.s. But I feel that on other topic's occassions it has. But be that as it may, not at all on this occassion and to imply is degreading, I feel. is many genuine persons.

Believe we mark at Moulton one now, just outside Northampton... was the Pheonix, now - same owners - Cardigan Arms. Phone Russel Bradford, have his number if you PM. me... he's the instigator etc.

Oh yes lol

Quote: Dr. Nils Reither, 15th August 2007 Adenovirus is an increasing problem in pigeons. Many new cases of adenovirus infections are seen this summer in Europe. In my region, southern Norway, I have seen tens of cases of adeno virus infections, most in young birds, but occasionally also in elder birds The symptoms have been less pronounced then years before, because we regurgitating has only been seen in a few cases. Wet droppings, loosing weight, and sitting fluffy without appetite are typical symptoms. From the crop and faces no special is found, and no salmonella is found. Occasionally coccids are found in the droppings, but this is quite normal even in complete healthy pigeons. It is important to be sure no other disease are present, so a fully veterinarian examination is mandatory. The treatment is supportive, including electrolytes in the water, isolation and rest, and antibiotics (Synulox is a good choice) for 7 days to avoid further bacterial problems. It seems as Citromed in the drinking water prevent or at least restrict the spread if disease to only a few birds. Routinely use of Citromed in the drinking water during the racing season can therefore be a good “insurance”. Dr. Nils Reither, 15th August 2007 Her a genaral overview: Especially young racing pigeons are susceptible to this virus, because they get infected when sent in the basket with pigeons from other lofts. The virus will, after being ingested, multiply in the digestive tract, injury the mucus membrane of the small bowel. This will result in inflammation of the mucus membrane and give symptoms. First of all, the infected pigeon feel unwell. It will not fly much, will not come in to the loft, and will not eat. After a few hours the pigeon will regurgitate, and later on it will get loose droppings. In many cases the pigeon will die after a short period of disease. Some times you only find a dead pigeon on the loft, without having seen any symptoms. In such cases a necropsy will elucidate the cause of death. The virus will spread quick to other pigeons, and in some cases all young pigeons can become sick, and as many as the half can die from the disease. The prevention is not easy. Older pigeons can be carriers of the virus without showing any sign of disease. These pigeons have undergone an infection earlier in life, and have been "naturally vaccinated". But they carry the virus, and can shed viruses, which can harm young pigeons. It is therefore essential to keep the young pigeons away from the older birds. In another loft. Use other shoos, another jacket, and other equipment. It can also be a good idea to use a harmless disinfectant, like Citromed® in the drinking water to prevent virus form surviving in the crop after the pigeons have eaten and drunk. There is a vaccine meant for adenovirus in poultry, which are used by several pigeon fanciers. The effect on pigeons is not clear, but it is not harmful to the pigeons. Another virus, which can be involved in "intestinal problems of unknown course", is rotavirus. This is also a virus isolated form pigeons with diarrhoea. It is unclear whether the virus itself give the pigeon intestinal problems, or if the virus have a co-existence with adenovirus, bacteria or parasites. At the moment we are working with a test, which can identify adenovirus and rotavirus. The test have been used at a number of pigeons which have bee tested. Compared with the necropsy of young pigeons, which had died suddenly, we often found distended small intestines. In all of these cases adenovirus could be found. In a few cases rotavirus could also be found. The test is a small plastic item where antibodies from adenovirus and rotavirus are placed in two zones. If the sample contain virus, there will be a chemical reaction, which will be visible as a blue stripe. If you see a stripe in this zone, the virus is present. If no stripe is visible after 10 minutes there is no virus. Quick and simple. Test procedure: Take a new swab for each sample: 1)Take a small sample of faeces or a rectal swab using the included swab. 2) Wash the swab in the buffer vial (fig. 1) 3) Let clots of faeces sink to the bottom (fig. 2) 4) Add 4 drops of the sample solution with the pipette to the strip (fig 3). 5) Read the result after 5 to 10 minutes. 6) Interpretation of the result: Rota Positive: Two red bands are visible, a low line in zone in zone 'C' and one in zone 'T' =>The sample contains rota antigen. The pigeon is infected with Rota Virus. Adeno Positive: Two red bands are visible, a high line in zone in zone 'C' and one in zone 'T' =>The sample contains adeno antigen. The pigeon is infected with Adeno Virus. Negative: Only one red band is visible in zone 'C' => the sample does not contain rota or adeno antigen. The pigeon is not infected. Not valid: No bands are visible, repeat the test with another strip. The test is developed in conjunction with a well-recognized veterinary laboratory. At the moment the test is being tried out by various institutions to ensure the sensitivity and specificity. That means that the test must tell the truth. We have already tested many pigeons, and found a high degree of agreement between what we see of symptoms on the pigeons, and necropsy (looking into dead pigeons), and the results of the tests. The tests will be available for veterinarians and pigeon breeders very soon. If you need further information you can contact veterinarian: Dr.Nils Reither D.V.M.

get it off with a quick £50 ... which won't last long eh When is the closing time / date Stu?

F A M I L Y I ran into a stranger as he passed by, 'Oh excuse me please' was my reply. He said, 'Please excuse me too; I wasn't watching for you.' We were very polite, this stranger and I. We went on our way and we said goodbye. But at home a different story is told, How we treat our loved ones, young and old. Later that day, cooking the evening meal, My son stood beside me very still. When I turned, I nearly knocked him down. 'Move out of the way,' I said with a frown. He walked away, his little heart broken. I didn't realize how harshly I'd spoken. While I lay awake in bed, God's still small voice came to me and said, 'While dealing with a stranger, common courtesy you use, but the family you love, you seem to abuse. Go and look on the kitchen floor, You'll find some flowers there by the door. Those are the flowers he brought for you. He picked them himself: pink, yellow and blue. He stood very quietly not to spoil the surprise, you never saw the tears that filled his little eyes.' By this time, I felt very small, And now my tears began to fall. I quietly went and knelt by his bed; 'Wake up, little one, wake up,' I said. 'Are these the flowers you picked for me?' He smiled, 'I found 'em, out by the tree. I picked 'em because they're pretty like you. I knew you'd like 'em, especially the blue.' I said, 'Son, I'm very sorry for the way I acted today; I shouldn't have yelled at you that way.' He sid, 'h, Mom, that's okay. I love you anyway.' I said, 'Son, I love you too, and I do like the flowers, especially the blue.' FAMILY Are you aware that if we died tomorrow, the company that we are working for could easily replace us in a matter of days. And come to think of it, we pour ourselves more into work than into our own family, an unwise investment indeed, don't you think? So what is behind the story? Do you know what the word FAMILY means? FAMILY = (F)ATHER (A)ND (M)OTHER (I) (L)OVE (Y)OU

Gosh.... hope the birds don't get mixed up ;D

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The NRCC only caters for the East Coast Boys, and further have taken / took diabolical liberaties with the inland flyers. Any race that is predominated via the mpstly prevalent West in the wind, is just an exercise for the Positioned lofts to have field days in all regards. Any Race that wants to show genuine 'Merit' to the Better birds, must have sections, and also aimed to be liberated where most have a A. helping Wind, or a headish wind for ALL. Like A boat release, or from the most reasonable EASTERN liberation suitable amd reasonablely possible. Shrewed 'Buyers' of decent pigeons look where the Birds are flying to and how well they fared.

Too cold, chills them. East wids are from Siberia. Well that may well be the reason, yearlings hate them, AS do all ages of pigeons, EVEN the old birds.

Read for yourselves eh. http://www.ibnlive.com/news/hen-lays-green-eggs-becomes-a-celeb/57818-13.html

Now I personally don’t honestly think – outside of smashes etc. – that a healthy pigeon gets lost. They just don’t want to return home. Now may be, that too closely paired birds produce impaired youngsters, and for every 1 any good, a dozen are no good. Easy way to find out… when in ;loft and moved from nest box in to adjacent compartment… after a day or so just open the door, any good and they are back in the nest, so this is where ‘Merit’ first starts. For instance, a fellow down Oxford way went to Sweden. Picked up straight from the loft a few y/b’s! Never been outside, of course, and are hardly weaned. Brings them back --- easier a few years back eh, and put them directly into his new stock loft to be. These are for his future, so never lets them out as they cost a few quiddies eh! After two years one gets out. A few days later the fellow in Sweden informs him to say it is back with him and what does he want to do…? Any way long story short, it is to be collected… It is out about and returns back to Oxford way, where it proceeds to win a few races…. No one can train a pigeon, get it fit, no one can teach a pigeon how to home, or to navigate etc. How can we eh? When we don’t even have an inkling how they do it in the first place. Yes thesis etc. full stop. Fit birds become conditioned. If contented and a love of home, they will home, if not, then they will after a fashion of hop it. Sometime circumstances alter either way, so that has to always be noted why … or they are coming into song when the performance improves. JMO

I personally think three tosses ampful IF they have ranged well. One chuck 30 odd miles South, 40 - 50 miles North then down to the East coast 60 odd miles. For instance last time ... 4 years back,23 started with ... 22 in race, 22 home way before any other member, that isn't getting fit and letting others show them the way home. ... Actually I just clocked 5, and one was a stray lol. Done this the five times I've actually sent y/b in the last 13 years or more.

Up the West coast and even over to the Isles..... With west in wind, most would have a sensible race eh!

Hope these help to be going on with... http://www.chevita.com/system/info.php?flag_error=404 http://www.pigeoncote.com/vet/formulary/formulary.html#medications http://www.pigeon-lung.co.uk/main.html http://www.albertaclassic.net/trichomonas/trichomonas.php http://www.allaboutfeed.net/home Have stacks more... when you have 'Copied and saved in your 'Word Documents' or whare ever, and read these up... give us a shout / or Email and I'll sort out some more.

Lol ;D ;D

Just going to work mucker ...

Fine,

Sorry, thought that was adisdained perplexed one... there learn something every day eh ;D. Any way enough spent on that eh.