Roland

Mine are just starting their moult now... will pair first week in April... just the one round. Taken away day after second egg is laid... should have a full wing throughout the ob season! If only :-/ :B ;D ;D

Truer post ...? there is none!

Maybe you ought to ask. :-/ Maybe one doesn't realise that it is natural that excells at the distance... and moreso the hens. Now I wonder why that is! Yes even at the sprints now, natural are holding their own! I wnder why that is :-/

Me too ... Also like the ability to be able to see exactly what is on my loft ... especially things like Cats etc. that shouldn't be.

Was a very good program a few weeks back on What we eat, Channel 4 I believe. Said the healthiest time of eat - which is now universally agreed on, was the Mid Fifties. just after Rationing. Also stated, which seems to contradict my heading, but doesn't of course lol That one apple then was worth 12 of today's! That one orange was worth 15 of today's. Of course you get the other benefits also like fibre etc. So why it doesn't contradict the heading is simply that concentrating one fruit has far less... so would have to concentrate 12 - 15 or so... Then the pills would have to be 12 - 15 times bigger lol

Only quoting what the Studies shown. that is well over 70,000 people over 6 years. Now I use to think laying on the floor, or a door cured bad backs... One has to be realistic here. And see if you Doc prescribes etc.? Or are they available on the NHS? Further who is making money? Who is advertising etc.

;D ;D ;D One in a million ... llike mine, won in a raffle lol

Natural ingrediats are essential. So yes, fruit and Veg etc are great sauces. They also benefit by giving the body the whole, and a helping completeness. But to over load, and then it must also be, under provide by taking parts is obviously no good. You, when top flyers like Edmunds, etc. etc. say they don't give... or place before them etc. The fancy automatically say 'Ah... but he isn't telling us everything... he's holding back .. But he's not saying...' The reality is simple, no rocket science needed. Good clean fresh air, PROPERLY circulated and clean blood. So them tubes are not to be clogged up. Now we - for instance have a machine in our viens. It is turbo changed and is about a 1000th of an inch in size. It constantly goes around and cleans our viens, when it doesn't need cleaning it by passes that vien and goes onto the next one. Likewise all living creatures. Fry up, greasy food and nicotine etc. keep in in overdrive mode... Lie wise our birds, Stop tampering with their system, we cause more hassle than what is good. 'That bird done well it... Ask your selve a simple question. 'But how much better would it have dne if we hadn't kept buggering it about'!

Well just had a look at the birds droppings. the more enclosed are still more greenny than the ones out in the airvery. The snow and wind is nipping through, but they just move inside when they like, and the droppings are turning more firmer and browner... The others are all now getting firmer and looking like droppings and little round balls with a mite of white. So of course their droppings cahnge. So would your's. Don't see a queue every day day at the doctors because our droppings are different do we! Too much crap, and crass scenarios are placed on droppings. Better by far to just go in and stand in door way. Then quietly look at the birds and pay attention to their eye! This will tell you straight off if any are how ailments, or need a further look at and to be handled!

Some antioxidant supplements are even bad for you! Research suggests that you could increase the risk of an early death by up to 16% by interfering with the bodies natural defenses!

Vitamins!!! Not worth a jot! Save your' money. Reading good article, confirming what we all knew, but hope different, and want to follow the masses, it's like the £billion bottle water crap that is just that Crap! As such also waste of time and money, of course even getting, let alone buying. Oxford University, for instance, have proved it after a 5-year research with 20,00 people, and suggest that you only buy fruit and vegetables. Another study funded by the National institute of health in the USA showed that taking Vitamin C or E did now’t. Didn’t reduce the risks of any ailments, let alone prostate cancer. Others studies, of over 35000 men and 15000 women, proved that cancer rates were not any lower. So if you or your pigeons, are swallowing pills etc. galore save your money! You certainly can’t ignore the evidence; I certain can’t nor will I! What we all should be doing is NOT popping up and stocking pills, supplements etc. but getting them vital minerals, vitamins etc. through natural sauces. Not only will you, and the birds, benefit, but gain and get the basic needs, but also they contain other goodies, essential and beneficial ingredients etc, that help with vitamin consumption. Plus added Fibre – which in it’s elf helps reduce cholesterol and stimulates bowel activity… reducing again bowel and other disorder and illness, diseases. P.s. the darker the feed the better! In our’ case blackberries, elderberries etc are real good. Broccoli sprouts are particularly beneficial…. Better to go and get a molehill and place on a board, change it over every other day for the birds…. Etc. etc

When can you bring them down? I'll have the lot! :P ;D ;D ;D Very nice, very nice indeed.... Albear has already had his Loupe out and magnified them all lol

mate sent me photo's from Canada... complete loft under snow... and nigh house.... dug trenches right the way through. Not just him of course, very many! Think I have deleted, if not I'll try and post

Well was the oddsnow falls then Oleyellow... But the last proper winter was 1962, 63 was great compared to today. Was telling the other half how we had slides of 30 yards or mor then... until then actually. When the soles of shoes had 2 inches round lol. Use to put Cornflack box cardboard in the shoes. Was, time we got to school just bare skin and icicles. Mum had to darn the socks every night lol. Marvellous how we slid on them slids. Went school swimming one year in March. Out door pool of course. Was cobbled ice along all the road sides. Puddles frozeen. Next year school was too late to get that date... so went 3 week in February! Gosh we walked the railway lines for a mile an half, then the snow drifts across a mile and 1/2 through drifts to clear the lines to play another village at football. Now the lads want a taxi to go 300 yards lol. Remember fight to get close to a firs... warm front and freezing back from draughts drawn out everywhere to go up the chimney. Only had a sheet in winter, till dad cam home to put his overcoat on be... Wake up froze when he went work at 6 O'clock lol. Mum going balistic when we fed the birds stale bread... would be ok for milk slops in the morning ... Summer it was sour clot milk lol Wouldn't change a thing ;D ;D ;D

Love the allsortment colours you

White for surrender eh! Umm err... Well that be as it may, but what really puzzles me is who would want to fly a flag that colour :-/ :-/ :P ;D ;D :o lol

Have some, are all gavanised ones. Look at corn stores that cater for chickens I guess. No have none spare, sorry.

Me... well I just empty and re fill. Birds need a bit of high carbs at the moment too. Gives them body heat.

Very brittle, and one has to be careful as they can break, shatter very easily. A metal drill, 4 mm, will drill tham. Yes, clear, they are possible the best thing on our lofts. Clear pexplex is great, but one has to be real careful. Also needs corking, so loses out with the added ventalation, but birds are apt to get a sense of Home is, far better. JMO

My wife sat down on the couch next to me as I was flipping channels. She asked, 'What's on TV?' I said, 'Dust.' And then the fight started... ****************************************** My wife and I are watching "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" while we were in bed. I turned to her and said, "Do you want to have sex?" "No," she answered. I then said, "Is that your final answer?" She didn't even look at me this time, simply saying, "Yes." So I said, "Then I'd like to phone a friend." And then the fight started.... ****************************************** Saturday morning I got up early, quietly dressed, made my lunch, grabbed the dog, and slipped quietly into the garage. I hooked up the boat up to the truck, and proceeded to back out into a torrential downpour. The wind was blowing 50 mph, so I pulled back into the garage, turned on the radio, and discovered that the weather would be bad all day. I went back into the house, quietly undressed, and slipped back into bed. I cuddled up to my wife's back, now with a different anticipation, and whispered, "The weather out there is terrible." My loving wife of 10 years replied, "Can you believe my stupid husband is out fishing in that?" And that's how the fight started... ****************************************** I rear-ended a car this morning. So, there we were alongside the road and slowly the other driver got out of his car. You know how sometimes you just get soooo stressed and little things just seem funny? Yeah, well I couldn't believe it.... He was a DWARF!!! He stormed over to my car, looked up at me, and shouted, "I AM NOT HAPPY !!!" So, I looked down at him and said, "Well, then which one are you?" And then the fight started..... ***************************************** My wife was hinting about what she wanted for our upcoming anniversary. She said, 'I want something shiny that goes from 0 to 150 in about 3 seconds.' I bought her some bathroom scales. And then the fight started... ****************************************** When I got home last night, my wife demanded that I take her someplace expensive... so, I took her to a gas station. And then the fight started... ****************************************** After retiring, I went to the Social Security office to apply for Social Security. The woman behind the counter asked me for my driver's license to verify my age. I looked in my pockets and realized I had left my wallet at home. I told the woman that I was very sorry, but I would have to go home and come back later. The woman said, 'Unbutton your shirt'. So I opened my shirt revealing my curly silver hair. She said, 'That silver hair on your chest is proof enough for me' and she processed my Social Security application When I got home, I excitedly told my wife about my experience at the Social Security office. She said, 'You should have dropped your pants. You might have gotten disability, too.' And then the fight started... ****************************************** My wife and I were sitting at a table at my high school reunion, and I kept staring at a drunken lady swigging her drink as she sat alone at a nearby table. My wife asked, 'Do you know her?' 'Yes,' I sighed, 'She's my old girlfriend. I understand she took to drinking right after we split up those many years ago, and I hear she hasn't been sober since.' 'My God!' says my wife, 'who would think a person could go on celebrating that long?' And then the fight started... ****************************************** I took my wife to a restaurant. The waiter, for some reason, took my order first. "I'll have the strip steak, medium rare, please." He said, "Aren't you worried about the mad cow?"" Nah, she can order for herself." And then the fight started... ****************************************** A woman is standing nude, looking in the bedroom mirror. She is not happy with what she sees and says to her husband, 'I feel horrible; I look old, fat and ugly. I really need you to pay me a compliment.' The husband replies, 'Your eyesight's damn near perfect.' And then the fight started.....

Was just going to post the same.

Yes Blow torch the loft, regularly etc. will never go a miss. Prevention is always far better than cure. Sanitation is a constant must. Indeed, means treatment is very seldom used.

Farm boys.. When you're from the country you look at things a little differently.......... A Montana rancher got in his pickup and drove to a neighboring ranch and knocked at the door. A young boy, about 9, opened the door. 'Is yer Dad home?' the rancher asked. 'No sir, he ain't,' the boy replied. 'He went into town.' 'Well,' said the rancher, 'Is yer Mom here?' 'No, sir, she ain't here neither. She went into town with Dad.' 'How about your brother, Howard? Is he here?' 'He went with Mom and Dad.' The rancher stood there for a few minutes, shifting from one foot to the other and mumbling to himself. 'Is there anything I can do fer ya?' the boy asked politely. 'I know where all the tools are, if you want to borry one. Or maybe I could take a message fer Dad.' 'Well,' said the rancher uncomfortably, 'I really wanted to talk to yer Dad. It's about your brother Howard getting my daughter, Pearly Mae, pregnant.' The boy considered for a moment. 'You would have to talk to Pa about that', he finally conceded. 'If it helps you any, I know that Pa charges $500 for the bull and $50 for the hog, but I really don't know how much he gets fer Howard.'

Well, on Monday I took the birds of their feed of mainly Tic - Beand, and replae with Barly (Again) with Oats, Wheat, with a lttle maize -to keep the cold out. I also place the Invertamin wormer before them in the drinkers. Of course their droppings went green, and slimy, and a mite wet with hardly any, if at all white with them.! Was like that for 2 -3 days. Still have the same drinkers before them till they go dry. Dropping this morning a lot firmer. Roundish again after being splatts. White on top. Will be firmer tomorrow.... :-/ But hold on a minute, there is too be a drop in the tempreture today, and especially in the night, SO the droppings will be different yet again. Tempreture, change of feed, loft compartment will all, besides other things, change the shape, form, colour etc. of droppings. Often have had, and still do, the wet puddle with a little worm like in centre. Could be umpteen reasons / things.... But will act only after a few days if need be. Note the numbers and any more that have the same, INCASE it spreads and NEEDS treating. Never has yet though, but is, to me a pointer THEN of the birds constitution, all important. Some get ill, whilst others don't, some quickly get over whatever, some don't :-/ :-/ Then further action may be called for, becuase they are proned, and are not an overall healthy bird. JMO thoughts and ways of doing things. Just like us when using the toilet, our droppings change regularly.... never see us dashing of to the chemist and taking this that and the other willy - nilly.... Well most of us.

Cheap flying I'd say. Don't know of course other fees that have to be met.