Roland

Like persons that swear by hydrated eg electrolytes. This in fact dehydrates. Yet many swear by it.... Might use Mallasses, but Honey / clucose is far better, and also when back from a race, 2 - 3 peanuts works wonders.

I have heard the lime in drinking water preventative several times. Without knocking it I would just like to say that this is doing the exact opposite from adding cider vinegar to the drinker. One makes the water acidic and the other makes it alkaline. Yep, and also that Lime could cause E. Coli etc. etc. is often spouted. Never happens, is a myth. I.B. will no doubt look this up again and say it is ' Bla Blah Blap etc.' but in this game. and in many walks of life we are often using and doing what shouldn't be, to great advantage and benefit. Back in the 50's 60's much use was made of Lime. Nigh every bird pecked at the Lime Cement between bricks, went fielding for the Lime / minerals etc. across the fields. Many the loft, loft I am doing now, were coated in lime. Further this year again, - have stareted now - I will scrape out, then drop some lime on the floors, and scrape it into the wood work. Use to use a damp clothe like most. Now use as a paint, then neat instead of 'White. Keeps the loft sweet and fresh smelling, and further rids of most nasties. Only reason I stopped doing it was when I was lucky enough to get some 'Chinese Chalk'. That was an absolute boon. Only thing with lime, one doesn't want to leave it in a powder dust form too often. Get down the throat... but more importantly in the yes, which is not good for them of course. So go figure.

I've never had it. Full stop, and I don't treat much for much and that's a fact. Great believe in a little lime in drinkers left to settle over night as I've often posted. Many in one club I'm in most do that too.... very few have had young birds sickness either.

No, you really have aged past that! :P ;D ;D

Leroy that is 100% true, many don't / won't, or very seldom because they may A. Get a litle Flack, and B. belittled. Yet another reasons or two or so, I believe, is that that of lack of confidence, Worried that may be adressing a 'Name', or feel that though it may be an important thing to them, it could just be a silly thing - in their thoughts - to others. But you know, the singular, and biggest turn off in my 12 - years on these sites is 'Names' and the senseless shielding and standing up for these so called greats. The silly lame crutch of jealousy etc. and an feeling that they SHOULD also be able to buy their position and location etc. and as they can't an inferior feeling clouds logic and sense. Was thinking this morning as I scraped out the birds, and the AGM I attended last night. Of all the fanciers that have been unable to join a club, mostly it was through their own persona. One talks 20 to the dozen and refuses point blank to raise a hand, in any way shape ot form. Won't attend fund - raisers etc. Leaves some and then tries to go back... they just can do without. 'Little lord Big head. A fellow has a great season.... Brag brag brag... regardless of subject it quickly turns to 'Me Brag Me brag again Me brag.... Club is nissed off at him... he'll to change a lot before any other club will let him in. The another two that were constantly sniping, degrading and belittling others, some bad too. No other club would have them. Then there is the worst syndrome.... Close clique quacks and own interests AND THESE are the biggest cancer to our sport. They refuse entry every year and many frustarated have packed up.... But on here, well ignore, and or dig back. Anyone and everyone as far as I' concerned should have a freedom of talking sense, helping, or talking crap and soon be known for it... As long as they don't disuade Novices or hinder their enlightment and enjoyment...

Had a samonella carrier off of a good name flyer when had six of him. Of course droppings etc. don't show this up. Very rarely treat for any thing, hardly ever, if at at all used antibiotics. Canker and going light in earliers starting seasons. Never had - like most in one club - young bird sickness. Strangely enough, and in the middle of doing my final part of my cleansing regime, and saturating the loft with Lime, which I make a middle thick paint like of it and paint it all inside and out with lime a few times. May just coat over later with another real paint. Been Vykrolled, bleached and blow torched already again this season. Nowt can, or will be harboured in my loft now. Antibotics, don't need them.... If 30 are fine, and one isn't, and removed andstill a week later the others are still fine, then the cause is already been seperated, and won'[t be fixed up to go back. Yes going light etc. may make an exception... but most like;ly not.

'So called' controversies, heated debates, the good willed banter, and also the sieswipes etc. are in reality what makes any 'Domain' popular. The more 'Fights' the more members, like chickens in a farm yard gather around. 99% run a good healthy and natural while to coming ti a end. Most often other topics, and posters, join and join in. Sad to say, with out any 'Hassle' this and other site become dormant and very low, little used, just dropping in and NOWT! So yes it is a good thing. No not many, very few if any leave, indeed the very opposie is true. Now you can debate THAT as much as you like, but all the needless, and senseless crap sceanarios about banning should be banned. One doesn't have to like, dislike another poster, and ertainly no need to rise to the bait. Out side of 'Bad languange and personally insults of ones family, not much to moan about. Go and see a site with out controversy and and I'll show you one dead, or soon to cease one. That is a fact. Al those that bemoan, and spout 'Ban' etc. just form a little clique site of you own... and see them come, and go, especially after one or two have been removed. End of debates, and end of site. Alsorts of all walks of lifes, age sex, etrc. etc. is the spice of lifes and GOOD places to be... like a good pigeon base site should and will be.

EAR HAIR My neighbor found out her dog could hardly hear so she took it to the veterinarian. He found that the problem was hair in its ears. He cleaned both ears and the dog could hear fine. The vet then proceeded to tell the lady that if she wanted to keep this from recurring she should go to the store and get some "Nair" hair remover and rub it in the dog's ears once a month. The lady goes to the drug store and gets some "Nair" hair remover. At the register the druggist tells her, "If you're going to use this under your arms don't use deodorant for a few days." The lady says: "I'm not using it under my arms." The druggist says: "If you're using it on your legs don't shave for a couple of days." The lady says: "I'm not using it on my legs either; if you must know, I'm using it on my schnauzer." The druggist says: "Stay off your bicycle for a week."

Well it will attract and gain popularity... and then need a bigger place... then again etc. till it will be a WMC that provides entertainment and even become affiliated I guess lol... That is how the Working Mens clubs started :B ;D ;D

Good for digging a 2 foot trench up to whatever size there is infront of the loft and filling in with it! Great drainage. :P ;D ;D

The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5- year phase-in plan that would become known as 'Euro-English'. In the first year, 's' will replace the soft 'c'. Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard 'c' will be dropped in favour of 'k'. This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome 'ph' will be replaced with 'f'. This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter. In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent 'e' in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away. By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing 'th' with 'z' and 'w' with 'v'. During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary 'o' kan be dropd from vords kontaining 'ou' and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensi bl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru. Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas. If zis mad you smil, pleas pas on to oza pepl

Got Ya Down? Well Then, Consider These . . . In a hospital's Intensive Care Unit, patients always died in the same bed, on Sunday morning, at about 11:00 am, regardless of their medical condition. This puzzled the doctors and some even thought it had something to do with the supernatural. No one could solve the mystery as to why the deaths occurred around 11:00 AM Sunday, so a worldwide team of experts was assembled to investigate the cause of the incidents. The next Sunday morning, a few minutes before 11:00 AM all of the doctors and nurses nervously waited outside the ward to see for themselves what the terrible phenomenon was all about. Some were holding wooden crosses, prayer books, and other holy objects to ward off the evil spirits. Just when the clock struck 11:00, Pookie Johnson, the part-time Sunday sweeper, entered the ward and unplugged the life support system so he could use the vacuum cleaner. Still Having a Bad Day???? The average cost of rehabilitating a seal after the Exxon Valdez Oil spill in Alaska was $80,000.00. At a special ceremony, two of the most expensively saved animals were being released back into the wild amid cheers and applause from onlookers. A minute later, in full view, a killer whale ate them both. Still think you are having a Bad Day???? A woman came home to find her husband in the kitchen shaking frantically, almost in a dancing frenzy, with some kind of wire running from his waist towards the electric kettle. Intending to jolt him away from the deadly current, she whacked him with a handy plank of wood, breaking his arm in two places. Up to that moment, he had been happily listening to his Ipod. Are Ya OK Now? - No? Two animal rights defenders were protesting the cruelty of sending pigs to a slaughterhouse in Bonn , Germany . Suddenly, all two thousand pigs broke loose and escaped through a broken fence, stampeding madly. The two helpless protesters were trampled to death. What?? STILL having a Bad Day???? Iraqi terrorist Khay Rahnajet didn't pay enough postage on a letter bomb. It came back with 'Return to Sender' stamped on it. Forgetting it was the bomb, he opened it and was blown to bits. God is Good! There now, Feeling Better? Have a Nice Day!

Sorry meant this quote in last post! Very well said.

Good on yer gal... Have a mate interested... but won't keep pigeons. A plonker, one of these silly bragging goons, spouted 'The secret of sucess if Cull, cull and cull, find reasons to cull' He wanted culling, and FAR to many plonkers think it is good to spout such crap! No wonder this hobby isn't taken seriously! Never culled any bird in my life becuase of Natural or any other system reason, outside of Illness. Age, torn up body etc.

A big youngster isn't anything at all, and can be discarded. The Cock bird isn't interested in the youngster, he has other things on his mind, and most likely 'DRIVING'! And the hen sitting 14 days or so... a youngster is better, more genuine too. Have never had to cull ANY babes in nests or there after, and have only ever flown Natural.

Canker is exactly the same as Thrush that women may well contract on many occassions. In our birds there are nigh thirty, or more. It is a common ailment that of no slurr upon any oman that get's it.... Likewise pigeons. In a mild form, canker can actually be of a great benefit to a pigeon. A weak virant keeps others at bay for instance. personally I believe that too much empthasise is banded about willy nilly on this, mainly because Most pigeons carry it, and many endorse the cleansing of it.... BECAUSE it is a money maker.

Heard of lean , mean and rady to run.... but golly that is wieght reduction honed to a bone I guess lol :P ;D ;D

Leave them alone! .... ignorance is bliss! Tell them so and leave it at that. ;D ;D They will 99% certainty be all over them in a few months time when seeing the youngsters out fly. Indeed make the more of it, for I'm afraid, for they will try and take over, and hang in bigtime for the glory when that comes lol

Yep, when caught for a felony .... send them to see the next 3 - 4 games.... A bit harsh i know, but should should cure them lol :P ;D ;D Mind the best thing that ever came out of Scotland was Kenny Daglish!

Who cares lol ;D ;D ;D .... Mind once would be enough lol.

Does he? !!! :-/ :-/ Never heard of him personally lol ;D ;D

I'm sooo peeved off....... I had two Manu FC tickets sitting in plain view on my car dashboard. Some *expletive removed* broke my window and left two more. What an *expletive removed*! Did hear that for criminals now, as a deterrent, must attend two Glasgow Footie matches… strueth bit harsh I feel lol ;D ;D 11 PEOPLE ON A ROPE 11 people were hanging on a rope under a helicopter, 10 men & 1 woman. The rope was not strong enough to carry them all, so they decided that one had to leave, because otherwise they were all going to fall. They were unable to decide who would let go,until the woman gave a very touching speech. She said that she would voluntarily let go of the rope, because, as a woman, she was used to giving up everything for her husband and kids and for men in general, and was used to always making sacrifices with little in return. (too true!) As soon as she finished her speech, all the men started clapping... SEND THIS TO AN INTELLIGENT WOMAN, SO THAT SHE HAS SOMETHING TO SMILE ABOUT TODAY… well try to anyway lol

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Well without Dale having 3000 phone calls asking where he is etc.... Be nice for you to post whether this is in Englals, Uk Ireland or Belgium etc. lol :o :-/ :-/ ;D ;D