Must admit the best years I have had with youngsters was when I used to train twice a day,it wasnt really the distant I took them (approx 20 miles)but the amount of times I think that did the trick,had as many as 6 in the first 10 of the fed in one race,nowadays I only train up to when racing starts and no more after that,I still manage a few positions in the club but nothing like years ago.