Valiant Fifer

Mind behave yersel Big Yin! Keep an eye oot on Rusty for me, and for god sake don't try tae keep up wi him bidding for doos. . Have Fun.

pmsl! No gawn this year m8 no aloud oot av been kept in for a while. No even had a drink since xmas day. Al try and get tae Blackpool next year check the talent out!!!

Nice one! :D

That's two good honest posts you've on this thread m8.

Good news Alex, and good news for fanciers near & far. You make some braw stuff Alex I have to say. Hope everything works out for you, Roll on 2015 eh!

Well said Davie

Yup would be worth a try m8 me thinks.

Same sale lot 5 gotta be worth a look stuart. Mark Bulled and his Father before him top class fanciers all their days!

Funny quite liked lot 9 masel stuart.

Don't think ur in the minority John IMO.

Would like to donate a pair of 2015 ybs for baby birds sale for the wee boy, a very worthy cause! should be pairing up last week in Feb. THANKS Ian

Aye see n mind u don't lead anyone a stray Craig ( you go tae some dodgy clubs you do!) Good job a had ma better half wi me lol. Cannae mind u going home wi us in a taxi on Saturday night though

Happy New Year to basics members and all the very best for 2015! :emoticon-0123-party:

I remember one year I dipped the ob's in Duramitex, it was a disaster for me. Firstly in front of another fancier I dipped them on the Thursday (stupidly) before the first ob race. The sun was shinning but there was a north east wind blowing at the time which didn't seem too bad, at least that's what I stupidly thought at the time. Next morning I got a shock when entering the loft. There was a pair of dead ybs in one of the bottom nest boxes which had died from the severe cold that night. I left the windows open thinking it would help dry the birds. Instead the obs only covered the youngsters for a short while obviously getting them wet and with not enough feathers on them at the time they perished. I also had to put another two single ybs in other nests out their misery! Luckily for me most of my ybs were shifted at the time or a good few more would have suffered the same fate. However its a lesson learned guys iv'e never done it again. Please take my advice and remember if dipping them to do it in say June when its warm! The other thing was I sent most of the team to the race. I remember the lads on the ringer saying hell almighty whats that smell when the birds were in their hands and we had a good laugh about it at the time! Yes no doubt the birds were clean but they struggled in the race and I lost a few that day I never expected to loose. I thought they were slow in their next few training tosses so I thought around midweek that's it no more i'll just let them sit around in the sun. I was concerned further as they were late on the saturday. However I had relised mid week that the Duramitex had left what I would describe as a film on their feathers. So I decided no more training for the 3rd race and just let them laze about again from the sunday til the next race. The sun had came out a bit between basketing for 2nd race and 3rd race which seemed to help as I won the 3rd race and the birds were in better condition with good returns! Obviously I dipped them too near the start of racing and also should have done it when weather was warmer. Deffo takes a few weeks to get the feathers back into the condition they should be in and as some pb members have said lord help them if they get caught in heavy showers for it will deffo effect them and maybe pull them down. I had previously dipped them with no problems but was caught out here. Since then iv'e used powder or one spot on neck! A hard lesson learned, don't do what I did above lol!!!

I think a cock or hen from a brother sister pairing would be fine if the parents were good pigeons and not just putting a bother & sister together for the sake of it. The son could be put to his Auntie and the hen might be tried with her Uncle, this should give good results but you would probably have to cross them out somewhere along the line at some stage. Another way would be to put either one off the brother x sister pairing to another inbred pigeon from a completely unrelated family. The offspring would have what is called the Hybrid and although both sides are inbred you will find out the offspring have plenty of vigour! The other inbred should also be a very good pigeon or from a pair of top pigeons. It would be more of a hit or a miss when you put question mark to question mark if you get my drift! It deffo helps a lot if these inbred birds are already good or from top class performance birds! No ??? to ??? !!! Hope this is some help to you Tiger

Have had a few winners from this pairing Tiger surprisingly, and they also bred winners!

No way Tom, only negative response and apathy burn scribes out and dishearten them! That should never ever be allowed to happen!!!

Very sorry to have missed it last night Tom, had to stay in but by all accounts Iv'e missed a great night with a great bunch of lads! Well done to all the prize winners and last but not least the judges and all the organisers! This is a rare wee show with many traveling a fair distance which speaks volumes for it, love it cant wait to get back! Best of luck to all for 2015!

Read the report on big Gareth Rankin and was impressed once more with ur report Tom more power to ur Pen!

PMSL!

sounds like a good service Davey boy!

Been using it since January. Pity that nice smell didn't last a bit longer but I still think its a good product!

seen a few wasps last week thought I was seeing things. Enjoy ur Holiday Craig, but see n mind keep ur eyes infont of you as well as behind you, if u know what a mean Wee Man!

see um in a few months time making bird boxes and cutting grass on his community service!

Congratulations Karen well done!!!