P M V Vaccines

[REDCHEQHEN]

So how many get their vaccine by post?

How many are sent under the correct conditions?

 

They need to be posted in a wrap - usually the foam - with pockets for a frozen freezer pack or two depending on how many you buy

 

 

"The cold chain must be maintained during transport. Vaccines should be kept in an insulated cooler. Frozen ice packs or refrigerated packs should be used as needed to maintain the temperature between 35°F (2°C) and 45°F (7°C)."

 

 

I have ordered from several places in the past few years - very rare I get free delivery despite placing orders of £200+

 

But today I ordered from somewhere else - over the phone and they took my money - then several hours later phoned me back and said it would have

to be couriered because of the order value - at an additional cost of £5.89, it was packed ready to go but wouldn't be collected until tomorrow, delivered Wednesday. So I enquired as to whether it was packed with the freezer pack - to which she replied 'no'.

 

I won't go into any more detail - but it is NOW going to be posted in the correct manner to maintain the refrigerated temperature.

 

How many people get their vaccines sent by post - and it's not in a cooler pack? (Which is all wrong)

[Kyleakin Lofts]

I have had it from several places, sent un-cooled in jiffy bags. I no longer use them.

 

I now have it sent in jiffy bags with the cool pack inside and am supplied by Retford Poultry Services who now trade as Poultry Health Services.

[PIGEON_MAN]

So how many get their vaccine by post?

How many are sent under the correct conditions?

 

They need to be posted in a wrap - usually the foam - with pockets for a frozen freezer pack or two depending on how many you buy

 

 

"The cold chain must be maintained during transport. Vaccines should be kept in an insulated cooler. Frozen ice packs or refrigerated packs should be used as needed to maintain the temperature between 35°F (2°C) and 45°F (7°C)."

 

 

I have ordered from several places in the past few years - very rare I get free delivery despite placing orders of £200+

 

But today I ordered from somewhere else - over the phone and they took my money - then several hours later phoned me back and said it would have

to be couriered because of the order value - at an additional cost of £5.89, it was packed ready to go but wouldn't be collected until tomorrow, delivered Wednesday. So I enquired as to whether it was packed with the freezer pack - to which she replied 'no'.

 

I won't go into any more detail - but it is NOW going to be posted in the correct manner to maintain the refrigerated temperature.

 

How many people get their vaccines sent by post - and it's not in a cooler pack? (Which is all wrong)

Just interested to know where it states the correct conditions for vaccine to be sent out.

[REDCHEQHEN]

Just interested to know where it states the correct conditions for vaccine to be sent out.

 

it's on the instructions:

 

Store and transport refrigerated (2°C to 8°C). Do not freeze. Protect from light

[REDCHEQHEN]

How many 'pigeon' companies are sending these vaccines out - in the wrong condition - ie in uncontrolled temperatures

 

I've ordered from on line vet pharmacies for a few years - and all have been sent with the cool packs - but I'm only getting a cool pack this time because I insisted on one

 

Your vaccine could be ruined if not transported at the correct temperature

[PIGEON_MAN]

Been ordering Vaccine ever since we had to start using it sometimes had Colombovac others times Nobilis but never had any arrive in a cool pack in fact never knew that was the case,have Nobilis this time but doesn,t say anything on their instructions about transporting conditions.

[PIGEON_MAN]

Just had maybe a crazy thought,if we are receiving Vaccine which is maybe ruined through not being sent out at the correct temperature and using it to vaccinate our young birds could this be a reason for YBS,what do others think.

[paddymac]

So how many get their vaccine by post?

How many are sent under the correct conditions?

 

They need to be posted in a wrap - usually the foam - with pockets for a frozen freezer pack or two depending on how many you buy

 

 

"The cold chain must be maintained during transport. Vaccines should be kept in an insulated cooler. Frozen ice packs or refrigerated packs should be used as needed to maintain the temperature between 35°F (2°C) and 45°F (7°C)."

 

 

I have ordered from several places in the past few years - very rare I get free delivery despite placing orders of £200+

 

But today I ordered from somewhere else - over the phone and they took my money - then several hours later phoned me back and said it would have

to be couriered because of the order value - at an additional cost of £5.89, it was packed ready to go but wouldn't be collected until tomorrow, delivered Wednesday. So I enquired as to whether it was packed with the freezer pack - to which she replied 'no'.

 

I won't go into any more detail - but it is NOW going to be posted in the correct manner to maintain the refrigerated temperature.

 

How many people get their vaccines sent by post - and it's not in a cooler pack? (Which is all wrong)

I buy mine from my local veterinary practice and have no problems.

[paddymac]

Just had maybe a crazy thought,if we are receiving Vaccine which is maybe ruined through not being sent out at the correct temperature and using it to vaccinate our young birds could this be a reason for YBS,what do others think.

Interesting thought,could be a contributing factor.

[Potter29]

Been ordering Vaccine ever since we had to start using it sometimes had Colombovac others times Nobilis but never had any arrive in a cool pack in fact never knew that was the case,have Nobilis this time but doesn,t say anything on their instructions about transporting conditions.

 

Same as above , never had any sent with freezer packs and used both nobillis and colombovac ??!

[Potter29]

Interesting thought,could be a contributing factor.

Certainly could ,oviously if it is not refrigerated properly will the vaccine then be no good and not be doing its job , therefor are we jabbing them for no reason

[REDCHEQHEN]

Been ordering Vaccine ever since we had to start using it sometimes had Colombovac others times Nobilis but never had any arrive in a cool pack in fact never knew that was the case,have Nobilis this time but doesn,t say anything on their instructions about transporting conditions.

 

 

But it does say it needs to be stored at between 2°C and 8°C - until use - bring to room temperature

 

 

So until it is used it needs to be between 2°C and 8°C - and that includes transporting

 

 

https://www.hyperdrug.co.uk/Colombovac-PMV-Paramxyo-Pigeon-Vaccine-100-doses/productinfo/COL1/

 

 

 

taken from the hyperdrug site - scroll down the page to the following (they're out of stock - I phoned, no delivery date as yet)

Store and transport refrigerated (2°C to 8°C). Do not freeze. Protect from light.

[yeboah]

I drive and collect the vaccine return straight home then use immediately with gun I also purchased from top farmcare outlet

no matter if there is 5 or 50 doses left it is binned

been to countless lofts where vaccine has been lying around for months and still being used

There lie s the problem

[gulkie]

I have purched my vaccine from viovet for years

And it is always cool packed .

[BANDIT]

From the lab to the fancier these vacines can go through 3 or 4 people, how will you ever know if someone took it out of the fridge for any lenght of time unless you buy it direct from the lab you can never be 100% sure it has been stored at the correct temp all the time....also some vacines have a shelf life of just 3 hours once opened.

[REDCHEQHEN]

If it doesn't come in a cool pack you sure as hell know it hasn't been transported in the correct conditions.

[BANDIT]

If it doesn't come in a cool pack you sure as hell know it hasn't been transported in the correct conditions.

 

ive never seen them come in a cool pack.....

[Potter29]

ive never seen them come in a cool pack.....

 

Me neither

[THE FIFER]

From the lab to the fancier these vacines can go through 3 or 4 people, how will you ever know if someone took it out of the fridge for any lenght of time unless you buy it direct from the lab you can never be 100% sure it has been stored at the correct temp all the time....also some vacines have a shelf life of just 3 hours once opened.

 

 

 

 

once you open it you are not supposed to put it back in the fridge , you are to use the entire contents when first open

[PIGEON_MAN]

Be interesting to know from people who have had YBS how they received their Vaccine and weather or not they discard the rest of the bottle after they open it.I will admit here that I do not It is kept in the fridge until I have the next batch of youngsters to vaccinate.Before anyone asks I have never had YBS.

[Bobby4]

I got my dual vaccine from Meccasystems Spain and it was in a cool pack

[peter pandy]

Mine usually come in a Jiffy Bag which aint a cool pack and I vaccinate so many then put it back in the fridge and vaccinate throughout the year a couple at a time and I have never had YBS... So I do believe you can discount that theory.

[Potter29]

Mines never arrived cool packed and i do same as above jab then bk in fridge till next ybs ready, mine get YBS !! Hopefuly not this year tho Atb

[THE FIFER]

Be interesting to know from people who have had YBS how they received their Vaccine and weather or not they discard the rest of the bottle after they open it.I will admit here that I do not It is kept in the fridge until I have the next batch of youngsters to vaccinate.Before anyone asks I have never had YBS.

 

yes I think lots do that,

[REDCHEQHEN]

I buy for the whole club. About 1500 doses a year sometimes more. It is co-ordinated so there is little waste, the young birds it's a bit trickier - but old birds - are all done in a week to 10 days - the whole club