Ets Rings

[gulkie]

Is it not about time that the ETS ring were built into the life ring ,

the amount of YB loses now in racing is harrendous and along

With the YB goes the ETS ring ,the manufactures must be laughing

All the way to the bank ,it can't be all that hard .the reason I bring

This up is because I've had birds back with the ETS ring removed

By some assh!ls of fanciers .

[greenlands]

Sorry mate I don't agree,ETS rings as they are can be used again should need be.I've used some that I have taken off injured/retired birds.Never had one come back with its ETS ring missing.

[bigbill]

same here. birds back without ets rings, tossers,

[greenlands]

same here. birds back without ets rings, tossers,

 

Put a drop of super glue on mate when you first fit them.

[Roland]

Sorry mate I don't agree,ETS rings as they are can be used again should need be.I've used some that I have taken off injured/retired birds.Never had one come back with its ETS ring missing.

 

Agree. What if a fancier, for any reason wants to remove it and it is glued? Also when a pigeon is retired one can simply remove and put it onother bird. Saves costs. The cost most whinge about when they get a bird back without it's ET. Which THEY can't use, but it tells the fancier that it has been in another's loft. Which I for one want to know.

[Ian McKay]

Put a drop of super glue on mate when you first fit them.

 

 

Does not work

 

I had chips that fitted into the life ring that were falling out when I spoke to SHU they told me to use super glue

 

They said they did not have a problem which I knew was wrong as another member told me he spoke to them also

 

I suggested they supply the glue as they were supplying faulty items

 

After using glue they still fell out

 

Funny thing the SHU do not issue this type of chip wonder why :emoticon-0136-giggle:

[gulkie]

Does not work

 

I had chips that fitted into the life ring that were falling out when I spoke to SHU they told me to use super glue

 

They said they did not have a problem which I knew was wrong as another member told me he spoke to them also

 

I suggested they supply the glue as they were supplying faulty items

 

After using glue they still fell out

 

Funny thing the SHU do not issue this type of chip wonder why :emoticon-0136-giggle:

I had some of them that slots in to life ring ,I lost them as well but it was the lugs that held

Them in that was breaking of,the ones I had left I broke of with plyers and fitted the other

Type .

[bullcock]

We race young birds with rubbers, if the suppliers played the game and kept the price down to a reasonable cost then we would consider using them and other fanciers won't be inclined to remove them.

As for putting them in life ring's, notffor me, the cost would be greater as you would have no choice but to use them even for young bird racing.

[gulkie]

We race young birds with rubbers, if the suppliers played the game and kept the price down to a reasonable cost then we would consider using them and other fanciers won't be inclined to remove them.

As for putting them in life ring's, notffor me, the cost would be greater as you would have no choice but to use them even for young bird racing.

Yes ur right about the young birds ,but it's a one of payment there

On the bird all its life .

[peter dempsey]

I agree with Roland on this if my bird goes into another fanciers loft then he is more than welcome to take the ring ? as this lets me know right away that my bird came under presure , had a 5 yr old come back this year who had his ets removed was missing for a week so some decent fancier had done me a great favour and looked after my bird ,, 5 weeks later this same bird came to win the st alustries france race for me when many good birds did not make it home

[gulkie]

Agree. What if a fancier, for any reason wants to remove it and it is glued? Also when a pigeon is retired one can simply remove and put it onother bird. Saves costs. The cost most whinge about when they get a bird back without it's ET. Which THEY can't use, but it tells the fancier that it has been in another's loft. Which I for one want to know.

Roland a note would do the same job??

[bibendium]

Roland a note would do the same job??

 

 

100% or slip a rubber on, taking the ETS ring off is THEFT pure and simple, had an example last year where a hen had obviously gone in somewhere she left with blue ets ring and returned a few weeks later with a green ring , quite fair I thought. also this season I lost a yearling cock at the 1st race again with Blue ETS ring on , he returned a month ago no ETS ring but race rubbered???

[Roland]

Roland a note would do the same job??

 

It is far better and easier, less hassle for a stray to simply remove a ring than a note.

Especially on a rainy day or when / if it goes down for a drink and it could get soggy lol.. You know the fact is the gripe for the pound odd lost! One if they want to0 race it again costs a quiddy or so! Indeed rather than know that it has been in another's loft and cared for!

A £1 20 say yet that may mean a fiver per season at best!

Yet the same fanciers will spent umpteen fortunes on silly bottles / pills and powder to gain a march. Will buy culls from other fanciers - sadly often heartless fraudsters - and fancy trapping devices, etc. etc. yet whinge when some one does tyhem the kind service of letting them know their' bird was cared for and release in a good condition to return home. Indeed allowed if the owner so wishes to let it race another day.

 

Maybe a coloured clip on ring - far cheaper - could be used for those concerned regards the cost, which could be collected via other fanciers to use and as such both benefit!

Edited August 11, 2016 by Roland

[Guest bigda]

The Lanarkshire fed issues 16,000 rings yet come race time we race about 6,000 when young bird racing so 10,000 lost a GPS ring is what we need to find out what nest they end up in and if there is a problem nest it is re-homed

[greenlands]

The Lanarkshire fed issues 16,000 rings yet come race time we race about 6,000 when young bird racing so 10,000 lost a GPS ring is what we need to find out what nest they end up in and if there is a problem nest it is re-homed

 

So basically what you are saying,if they had been life/ets rings that's 10,000 lost at the extra cost.

[Roland]

No extra cost Greenlands, just money lost which is invariable. However, most, I would ssy only place ET rings on their' birds shortly before racing.

[greenlands]

No extra cost Greenlands, just money lost which is invariable. However, most, I would ssy only place ET rings on their' birds shortly before racing.

I was assuming that the rings were then intended ones mentioned in the first post,ie. life/ets.

[peter dempsey]

I know fanciers who hammer there young bird down the road ? and will only put the ETS on the week of the first race

or race them rubbered for the first few races sooner than put Ets rings on ? yet they sit on the tall stool and skull pints all day

 

I know this is there own buisness let me say again anyone who gets any of my birds in and feeds them and lets them on there way feel free to take the ring as you have IMO doneme a good turn

regards to all

[Jim hannah]

Is it not about time that the ETS ring were built into the life ring ,

the amount of YB loses now in racing is harrendous and along

With the YB goes the ETS ring ,the manufactures must be laughing

All the way to the bank ,it can't be all that hard .the reason I bring

This up is because I've had birds back with the ETS ring removed

By some assh!ls of fanciers .

You really don't want the ETS chip in the life ring, reason is some of he ETS chips stop working after a year or so and you would have to rubber that particular bird,

and we all have experienced this to often.

[bigjamie]

just as said its stealing from another fancier i had bird come back to me last year without them its a bad day and someone cant let peoples birds come home with there ets rings on

[Ian McKay]

You really don't want the ETS chip in the life ring, reason is some of he ETS chips stop working after a year or so and you would have to rubber that particular bird,

and we all have experienced this to often.

 

 

Jim

 

Manufacturers GUARANTEE chips for seven years manufacturers not suppliers if they were honest we would get them replaced

 

I had some replaced once after I sent them back

[dal2]

Jim

 

Manufacturers GUARANTEE chips for seven years manufacturers not suppliers if they were honest we would get them replaced

 

I had some replaced once after I sent them back

How would ye get it on its leg after 5yr lol.....maybe keeping less birds would keep the costs down

[Guest bigda]

just as said its stealing from another fancier i had bird come back to me last year without them its a bad day and someone cant let peoples birds come home with there ets rings on

 

Don't blame anyone, the ets ring can come off when pigeons stand on legs, in a race and getting out, the race the basket lid, can knock them of their legs also so have a open mind

[Jim hannah]

Jim

 

Manufacturers GUARANTEE chips for seven years manufacturers not suppliers if they were honest we would get them replaced

 

I had some replaced once after I sent them back

Yes Ian, but how do you replace a life ring with the chip built into it, the plastic ones are the lesser evil of the two.

[Ian McKay]

Yes Ian, but how do you replace a life ring with the chip built into it, the plastic ones are the lesser evil of the two.

 

 

I thought commonsense would prevail seeing as we do not have life rings with chips in them !! :emoticon-0179-headbang:

 

I was only pointing out the manufacturers guarantee :emoticon-0136-giggle: