calder boy Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Don't make me Laugh...is a clear indicator you don't believe what's being said so yer sayin men are dishonest. Here's some Honest, this is what sending yer Doos training does.You always get them saying don't feed this don't feed that and they are feeding it themselves so as u all are saying ma birds don't see the basket until the first race so does that mean u don't teach them to eat and drink in the basket
dkj Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 You always get them saying don't feed this don't feed that and they are feeding it themselves so as u all are saying ma birds don't see the basket until the first race so does that mean u don't teach them to eat and drink in the basket name who your talking about then if you no they are lying,
calder boy Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 In years gone past lad lol but you always get em lol
dkj Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 In years gone past lad lol but you always get em lol dont tar everybody with the same brush, lad,
JohnQuinn Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Posted July 20, 2016 You always get them saying don't feed this don't feed that and they are feeding it themselves so as u all are saying ma birds don't see the basket until the first race so does that mean u don't teach them to eat and drink in the basket You aught to get yerself away fae they sorts it's affecting ye.
dal2 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Don't make me Laugh...is a clear indicator you don't believe what's being said so yer sayin men are dishonest. Here's some Honest, this is what sending yer Doos training does.Wot about the yins you loose racing? Do they not end up sitting lost and flown down somewhere regardless of how much training they have or haven't had?
peter pandy Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Saw batches going over me this morning in the p*ss*n rain half an hour after the thunder had stopped and 4 are sitting on the house roof to-night, 2 with ETS rings on and 2 without.
Novice Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Wot about the yins you loose racing? Do they not end up sitting lost and flown down somewhere regardless of how much training they have or haven't had? And those which have been flying around home but were. Based miles off their normal area by a peregrine.
dal2 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 And those which have been flying around home but were. Based miles off their normal area by a peregrine.Aye that tae Robert.....I know there is no hard and fast rules in the doo game but am not sure about the non training of babies. Could it be large teams of yb give the fancier the illusion of invincibility?
grdkeith Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 One for you john,would you put your untrained youngsters for their first race with another fed? Let's say an Edinburgh one with you flying 50miles or so to the west and no other birds coming your way
Delboy Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 One for you john,would you put your untrained youngsters for their first race with another fed? Let's say an Edinburgh one with you flying 50miles or so to the west and no other birds coming your way Now yer talking, good question
peter pandy Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Is that not what happens in every National race ??.
grdkeith Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Is that not what happens in every National race ??. Would you put untrained ones into that environment?
Delboy Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 One for you john,would you put your untrained youngsters for their first race with another fed? Let's say an Edinburgh one with you flying 50miles or so to the west and no other birds coming your way Are your insinuating John is relying on his fellow fed fliers trained doos dragging his up the road lol
dkj Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 One for you john,would you put your untrained youngsters for their first race with another fed? Let's say an Edinburgh one with you flying 50miles or so to the west and no other birds coming your way would you, your just being silly
peter pandy Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Would you put untrained ones into that environment?Well they have to fly the last 50 miles by themselves in most Nat races into the West.The post started with the only time they are going into a basket is to a race. Which suggests they will all be coming back into an area of 5 square miles.
grdkeith Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 would you, your just being silly Our fed is over 100 miles east to west and if untrained birds were put from the extreme west side I firmly believe they would be decimated,we have one guy in our club (mid fed position ) never trains and is wiped out within the first three races,not intending to be silly just wondering where the line is? Would you start untrained over 100 miles then? Well they have to fly the last 50 miles by themselves in most Nat races into the West.The post started with the only time they are going into a basket is to a race. Which suggests they will all be coming back into an area of 5 square miles. Not in a fed 100 miles wide then?
grdkeith Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Are your insinuating John is relying on his fellow fed fliers trained doos dragging his up the road lol Not at all !! Just a good thread with many views
Novice Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Aye that tae Robert.....I know there is no hard and fast rules in the doo game but am not sure about the non training of babies. Could it be large teams of yb give the fancier the illusion of invincibility?There will always be losses. First the rubbish and after that it's completely random.On Monday I counted my pigeons and I was 15-20 short. I closed the traps and after 2 hours they started filtering back. They had 2 of my old birds with them which meant they had obviously been chased by Percy. Obviously they learn from the experience but at the moment I actually have better returns training than I have flying round the loft. That's probably my fault.
dkj Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Our fed is over 100 miles east to west and if untrained birds were put from the extreme west side I firmly believe they would be decimated,we have one guy in our club (mid fed position ) never trains and is wiped out within the first three races,not intending to be silly just wondering where the line is? Would you start untrained over 100 miles then? Not in a fed 100 miles wide then? i have tried to jump later one,s in at 100ml plus, im sure they were a doo man from spey bay jumped his pigeon in at the channel 1st race i think, also and iv heard doo men put pigeons in by mistake and got them from the channel
Delboy Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Not at all !! Just a good thread with many views Tongue in cheek m8,
peter pandy Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Our fed is over 100 miles east to west and if untrained birds were put from the extreme west side I firmly believe they would be decimated,we have one guy in our club (mid fed position ) never trains and is wiped out within the first three races,not intending to be silly just wondering where the line is? Would you start untrained over 100 miles then? Not in a fed 100 miles wide then? You are in an extreme position where we in Central Scotland dont have your problems. We have 7 lofts within a 200 yard radius.
grdkeith Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 i have tried to jump later one,s in at 100ml plus, im sure they were a doo man from spey bay jumped his pigeon in at the channel 1st race i think, also and iv heard doo men put pigeons in by mistake and got them from the channel Appreciate that later ones would be jumped in but would you do it by choice with earlier ones? Certainly not trying to rubbish any methods on a good thread but the title was training you must be mental,I disagree
dkj Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Appreciate that later ones would be jumped in but would you do it by choice with earlier ones? Certainly not trying to rubbish any methods on a good thread but the title was training you must be mental,I disagree everybody try,s there own system, do what works for you, im happy with my system hope ur happy with yours, many roads to rome
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